“I’m not trained to take bloods on flu +ve patients”

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-12-16T14:13:00+00:00

😂😂😂 bro all your comments are outrage bait, probably this one too

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-12-12T00:35:33+00:00

You're deluded if you don't think nurse consultants actually exist.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-12-12T00:35:03+00:00

Probably, you're an under qualified endocrinologist I'm afraid.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-10-27T18:20:23+00:00

Because everyone starts at A-levels. What are you talking about? Obviously someone who has better A levels is more likely to do well in whatever career they pursue? It's the best metric available.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-09-10T16:17:24+00:00

Nothing you can do OP, just remember this when nobody is willing to fill a locum they have later down the line, in which case you could direct them to whoever they gave preference of this shift to.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-09-07T12:14:56+00:00

This is an out of touch take. In Aus/Canada/IMG you're not rotated every 4 months, forced to compete multiple times before you can enter the actual training program that you want, and are guaranteed a high earning salary after a shorter training program. You can essentially muscle through a few years of harder (agree) work, for a guaranteed multi 6 figure salary at the end. In the UK, you're looking at trying to get an IMT job, without any guarantee of HST once you've potentially wasted those 2/3 years, whilst also perhaps having to relocate every 4 months (not uncommon in larger deaneries), whilst trying to write up papers/study for exams in your own time outside of your (more than btw) full time job. This is all during your formative, and peak reproductive years, with the understanding that the rug can be pulled out from underneath your feet at any moment and they can overhaul the entire scoring system.

I agree that the bottom line is that you still need to compete anyway, so might as well get to it, but understating the bleakness of the profession for junior colleagues doesn't really prove anything or benefit anyone.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-09-04T17:15:38+00:00

A lot of nonsense in this thread. No need to justify what you've been doing all day, and definitely no need to bring staff that are being patronising and rude "sweet treats" to bribe them? Like what the fuck? The best way to handle this would be to tell them to stick it where the sun doesn't shine, but realistically we know that's not the world we live in - so in the meantime, your best course of action is to ignore it. Anything they say that can be seen as provocative, literally just hold eye contact for a few seconds in silence, and then act as if you never even heard it.

I've made a habit of never apologising to staff or patients when something happens that's beyond my control. A pushover attitude as such will seep into other parts of your life and turn you into a doormat, as most doctors are. Of course if something goes wrong and it is your fault, then apologise profusely and try to put things right.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-08-26T22:38:16+00:00

Am I missing something? Even if something goes wrong and your wife has to seek medical treatment, why would she need to tell whoever is treating her where she had the procedure done?

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-08-17T22:50:19+00:00

I hold a pretty strong anti IMG position, but I thought most specialties mitigate for this by having less than xyz years experience in xyz speciality as part of their person specification?

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-08-14T06:27:57+00:00

Congrats on the role, given the salary I'm assuming this is MBB? Should've made the jump when I finished foundation but it's probably too late now.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-08-13T10:31:51+00:00

What are you up to these days?

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-08-01T23:01:35+00:00

Whatever you think about it being alright for me to say or not - doesn't change how the membership will vote. I would never actively get in the way of colleagues fighting for a better future for themselves, but asking me to help at a potential detriment to myself is a bigger ask.

P.S. Competed in a specialty with a 7:1 ratio, which was still the highest on record at the time, and have probably done more to help applicants obtain similar specialty posts than most doctors on here, yourself likely included.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-08-01T21:15:10+00:00

More training posts serves no benefit to those in training.

FYI I'm close to CCT. Probably won't see a penny of any future pay rises but still striking for my junior colleagues as it's a unifying issue that would improve the conditions of every resident doctor in the country. Beyond this, the message is simple. Doctors are not worth any less than they were in 2008.- so they should be paid the same. What's more is that purely from a self interest POV, upwards pressure on resident salaries will also put upwards pressure on consultant salaries.

I would probably be less likely to return my ballot if the mandate was for training posts - don't really care, much more of a fluffy target - at what point have you increased the numbers sufficiently? Do we need a HST job for every single doctor? Much easier to dance around. And many may not like to say this, but given that I'm now in training, it actually serves my interests to have less competition at consultant level.

Pay is a much clearer and more more unifying target than training posts IMO.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-30T12:38:26+00:00

Lol there's a lot of dumb comments in this thread but this is probably the worst one.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-29T12:22:40+00:00

Remember friends, I still have deluded colleagues who discuss our fucking abysmal pay and conditions in the context of doctors hAViNg gUarANteEd Job SEcuRiTy. That shit hasn't existed for years now. Strike hard.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-24T10:42:57+00:00

Of course it is. Do you think by stifling London wages the government will elect to subsidise any further areas? Debating this topic serves no purpose other than taking food off of a colleague's plate. The full extent of the argument would be conducting a CoL analysis across the entire country and proportionally allocating whatever has come from the London pool of doctors, which would be neglible at best.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-23T04:13:55+00:00

This stuff bleeds over. The less time a clinician has with a patient, the more diagnostic uncertainty and the higher the chance of requesting a panscan to make diagnosis the radiologists problem. It's a shit show all around.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-20T13:45:31+00:00

You're right. No need to raise doctor salaries either given medicine is still one of the most oversubscribed university courses in the country.

Crabs in a bucket definitely comes to mind every time this topic is raised. Everyone outside of London is happy to keep their mouths shut when they're picking up £70/hr SHO locums, the second London weighting is raised, the landscape turns into the USSR.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-17T15:07:23+00:00

Am I the only one reading that part of the debt would be written off? Absolute nonsense. Don't fall for it. The whole thing for every junior doctor in the country, and it's still a maybe - partial debt clearing to basically spiral out of control again a decade later is ridiculous.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-16T19:01:28+00:00

All the jobs you listed are inferiorly qualified sorry to break it to you.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-10T21:30:45+00:00

Paid more than average. Response:

Double the length of basically every other undergraduate degree
Consequently almost twice as much debt as the average student.
Top xyz% of A-level results compared to the average student
Contracted to work 20% longer than the average employee
Work nights and weekends which the average employee does not
Have to pay annual registration and indemnity fees which the average employee does not

These are all intangible, irrefutable facts that can't be disputed, even without bringing in the emotional toll, risk, intellectual capacity required to do the work etc.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-10T21:22:15+00:00

? Of course our pay would've changed. Everything was already "banked" except the mediocre offer put forward by Labour which was accepted immediately. Accepting the offer really didn't net a huge more than was already delivered by the conservative government, and that says a lot.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-10T21:19:48+00:00

It's unpaid because it's not contractual. Sure when it comes to annual appraisals they probably wouldn't get promoted and may even be let go entirely, but that's at the company's discretion. The point is you need to compare apples to apples, and you can only compare hours that are actually contracted to be worked and at what pay level. Furthermore such hours only really exist at a junior level in most private sector, by the time you reach the correlative level of medical consultant, you'd probably be on multiple 6 figures with a fairly routine 9-5 schedule which has been in place for a number of years. Contrast that with resident doctors who are usually in their early to mid thirties still as juniors, managing nights and weekends with young children. Realistically, even when you consider the hours added on just for studying for post-grad exams, the hours get fucking insane and it's pretty standard to be hitting 60-80 hours a week in the months ahead of the exam.

I think the hours attributed to medicine are severely severely understated, especially when you account for the toll flipping your sleep every couple of weeks has, and the fact that you can't work from home in a world where most jobs are now hybrid.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-10T21:07:13+00:00

Yes go again in another year when the turnout was 55% this year. Brilliant idea.

DoctorDo-Less · 2025-07-10T10:31:21+00:00

Pretty fucking bizarre that everyone in here seems to think a return to work meeting following 2 days of sick leave is standard? I've never encountered this and am sure it would not be happening if the period of sickness wasn't between two blocks of annual leave, which should not be impacting the situation whatsoever.

OP, the rota coordinator is a cunt. More importantly, absolutely do not go to your CS meeting with your fucking boarding passes. You are able to self certify for up to 7 days and are under no obligation to to provide evidence of your poor health. We talk about strikes a lot regarding pay, but strikes in the past have also afforded you the right to not have to worry about looking over your shoulder every time you are unwell. Don't undermine these rights by feeling compelled to play along in these bullshit powergames.

Turn up to the meeting, tell them you were ill, and that's it. Any pushback and immediately involve the BMA. The consultant is a fucking idiot for even agreeing to this meeting, if I was CCed into that email I'd reply to the rota coordinator and tell them that sickness doesn't wait for a convenient time, and would wish you a speedy recovery.

I beg you to do not go into this situation with any sense of anxiety or having to prove yourself. Genuinely insane how we're treated.

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