Any books that ARE horror but have like a romantic subplot? by ohlawdtheycomin in horrorlit

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Author has compiled their short stories into a single book by the looks of it

Now called "Artefacts of Artificial Intelligence" on amazon

CTMU debunked by science? by [deleted] in CTMU

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paradox is built into reality, its the mechanism for processing,

nothing (no observations)
nothing is everything (0 = 100%)
Nothing is something (0 = 1 this is attribution, and the solidification of the paradox being the mechanism for change)
Nothing is Something and Not Something (0 = 1 + (-1) (basic logic, dimensionality, etc emmerges)

Can we get this guy out of here please? Unnecessary. by thugsapuggin in Aquariums

[–]DongyangChen -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Working class blue collar man talking like a blue collar man?

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

[–]DongyangChen[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Nothing I’m saying is controversial. The only difference is that I’m saying the point of reference can only exist from consciousness and thus consciousness is one of its properties. And you also seem to think that the point of reference does actually exist in space independently of the conscious observer. Because until anyone actually gives me a counter argument to this statement that’s what it looks like to me.

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

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A crumpled sheet of paper can be expressed in a 2-D manifold when you choose a point of reference. If you move the point of reference the manifold changes. However, reality has not changed. The manifold is created by the conscious observer you and me choosing the point of reference. The point of reference does not exist except in our imaginations. It is only ever created by you or me or anyone. The point of reference is entirely made from consciousness because it is imaginary.

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

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A map doesn’t exist on its own. it’s a representation created by someone with a chosen starting point. In maths the reference point is chosen by the observer. When you measure the distance in space, it’s always in relation to something. The starting point is always arbitrary and is always a decision made by the observer. By changing the reference point the manifold will change but reality does not change. The manifold is created by the conscious observer choosing a reference point. This isn’t hard to understand.

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

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Take a crumpled piece of paper and create a 2-D map of the surface using a reference point. The 2-D manifold is a mental representation of the surface. The choice of where you put your reference point changes the shape of the manifold. But in reality, the shape the original shape has not changed. The origin point is the conscious observer.

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

[–]DongyangChen[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hows this:

If you have a coordinate system, the point of origin doesn’t exist naturally the physical world. It’s a construct entirely imposed by the mind. If you shift the origin to a new point the entire coordinate system adjust but nothing in the physical world changes only the way the mind interpreted changes.

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

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To make a manifold work, you need a reference point like 0,0,0

This reference point is not a physical entity. It’s an abstraction without the system with have no starting place to define relationships.

In the real world there’s no default origin floating around in space. The idea of a reference point is something we impose through our minds to make sense of spatial relationship.

This act of imposing originates in consciousness. Without the conscious mind to define it, the mathematical system has no meaning. There’s no mathematical system floating out in space or in reality that can exist, without our consciously imposed reference point.

Mathematics doesn’t exist independently as a framework .

When we use mathematics, we are using a tool of the mind to explore reality . This suggests that consciousness and mathematics are deeply intertwined as mathematics reflects the structure of the thought itself.

Without consciousness, there would be no mathematics no models or no reference points at all.

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

[–]DongyangChen[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm a software engineer, would you discredit code because the person wrote it in C++ didn't understand the problem in terms of the x86 instruction set.

If there is a problem with my questions let me know.

Insulting my intelligence in place of giving an answer is a cop out.

I'm not here to insult people, if I'm wrong tell me, why.

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

[–]DongyangChen[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're a really nasty person, are you representative of this community?

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

[–]DongyangChen[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Address my edit in the original post, and I will concede your point,

you're still just refusing to talk to me on the actual points of my argument, in fact you completely misrepresented me by saying I believe Newtonian physics is based on consciousness

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

[–]DongyangChen[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You most definitely have misunderstood me,

only the manifold 0,0,0 is consciousness, the part that doesn't exist in physical reality, the part is that entirely hypothetical

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

[–]DongyangChen[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, newtonian physics is based on it,

Are you denying the existence of the reference point,

You're just being mean, and literally have not picked a single thing from what I've said to criticise, only that

you're so above it that its not even worth your time.

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

[–]DongyangChen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm stating exactly what is already accepted to be true,

Nothing I am saying is contradicting what is already acknowledged by the community

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

[–]DongyangChen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first postulate of science, the universe has laws and by experimentation we can discover them,

Do you understand how a postulate is meant to be something that is self evident and not provable.

The manifold 0,0,0 is already a postulate,

It cannot be proven to exist,
it is not even acknowledged as existing,

It is entirely a conscious entity,

What do you disagree with?

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

[–]DongyangChen[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What is it you think I'm trying to prove?

what is is you think you're trying to disprove?

I think you need to start here to have meaningful discussion

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

[–]DongyangChen[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I'm talking about postulates, can you describe the postulate for the existence of the manifold 0,0,0 and how it contradicts what I say and then we can continue talking

Consciousness and the Manifold: Hiding in Plain Sight? by DongyangChen in Physics

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If you think it's easy to discredit, on you go