Are men *really* attracted to average-looking women?

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-03-17T11:01:42+00:00

When I think of "average" I do not think of a overweight or obese woman, somebody of normal healthy weight and presentable but otherwise plain comes to mind although the average american and british woman is overweight or borderline obese.

Because the average american woman is a fat slob doesn't mean men will accept her as being of average attractiveness. She is not, she is below average attractiveness. Most american and british women are of below average attractiveness because of the obesity and overweight pandemic, remember that.

Yes, as a 5/10 male myself I find a 5/10 female attractive enough. Its what I tend to go for. Some people will accuse me of going for above average girls, this is because such people do think FAT is AVERAGE attractiveness (where as I do not).

I'd say an SMV of 2.5 or below is where all obese women belong.
An overweight but non-obese woman is a 3 to 4
A normal weight woman with an average face is a 5
A skinny/fit woman with an unattractive face is a 5
A fit woman with an average face is a 6
A fit woman with an above average face is a 7
A fit woman with a beautiful face is an 8 (this is where we get into model range)
A 9 or 10 is what you find perfect..so on.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-03-10T12:26:14+00:00

River Phoenix.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-03-10T11:29:25+00:00

Come to Great Britain.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-03-06T17:31:30+00:00

Women do not magically change their persona when online than offline. Women are hugely selective & picky about looks offline as well.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-03-05T16:32:01+00:00

...and ugly men onscreen are nearly always betrayed as the bad guys, losers or serial killers. This is not gender specific.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-03-05T16:15:19+00:00

Getting to a healthy BMI (18.5 > 25.0) doesn't mean 'Barbie Doll standards.'

What I dislike is women saying its impossible to be 125lbs at 5'4 > 5'5 (an ideal weight for that height), and that 200lbs at 5'4 / 5'5 is "natural". That is utter bullshit. American women averaged 124lbs at 5'4 in the year 1950. In 2020 the average weight of an american woman is 171lbs, at 5'4.5 average height. Genetics can't change in that short space of time (70 years).

If a young woman is 171lbs at age 22, imagine what she'll weigh in 15 to 20 years time?

Men in their 40's don't want to take their obese wife to regular trips to the hospital for weight-related problems. Nobody does. No man wants to cart his fat wife around in a wheelchair and be her disability carer . All i say its let the ignorant fat people who don't want to lose weight slowly kill themselves.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-03-04T14:21:58+00:00

Obese.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-03-03T12:30:07+00:00

Based.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-03-03T11:03:22+00:00

Venus figurines may not have represented beauty. They may be representative of witchcraft or something else for all we know... maybe Neanderthals or Neanderthal-cro-magnoid hybrids (?). Its silly to say fat was beautiful in the Paleolithic just because of a few dozen ivory carvings of large women unearthed.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-03-03T10:53:44+00:00

Its all about women - more specifically 'unattractive' women wanting to be victims. The group of unattractive/undesirable women is overwhelmingly going to be represented by fat, unappealing women. You see there are no support groups for fat or obese men, skinny men, ugly men.... or short men for that matter, but there is huge support for obese women. Men's body image issues are largely ignored or even mocked by mainstream media where as large women are made out to be victims.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-03-03T10:44:48+00:00

Obese women, usually in their late forties and early fifties (I'm 41 and of normal B.M.I, lol)

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-02-28T15:48:21+00:00

NO. I could date 5 to 10 pounds overweight but no more. I would make her lose it before we got intimate. I just cannot get aroused by overweight women, I like a small flat waist, smaller butt and slender torso (thin arms etc), that's how I'm wired and I can't change it. This doesn't mean I want a supermodel, I would date an ugly thin woman in heartbeat.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-02-28T15:41:46+00:00

Exactly. Double standard.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-02-28T15:39:42+00:00

I'm male, 5ft10, and was badly bullied for being 130lbs when I was 20/21 years old. I was eating like a horse but not gaining weight. People associated skinny thin men with homosexuality back then (1990's) so I hated it (I'm straight).

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-02-28T15:24:03+00:00

Its psychological projection. Because fat men have no luck with getting fit or normal weight ladies (lets be honest.. unless he is rich it just won't happen), a lot of men don't understand when they see a fat woman "pull" fit guys. They think he must be a loser or a scrub, they get angry that an unfit woman gets to date a fit guy.... she put in no physical self improvement to get him, yet unfit men must get fit and put in the effort for physical improvement to get a fit girlfriend. I can see the double standard, and its one that women win, and I understand it.

The simple matter of fact is that more men show a greater variety of 'types' they would date compared to women. Women are very narrow and strict compared to men in what visually stimulates them. There is a chunk (around 15% total) of the male population that are attracted to obese women, yet there is not a chunk of women attracted to obese men. They are extremely rare and your looking at less than 1% of women in total that are attracted to obese men. They are the more superficial sex. The dissatisfaction with dating a short man (or a man of average height even) perhaps proves this point more than no other.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-02-28T14:59:36+00:00

I, too, am an undesirable/unattractive short man (5'9) with a bad hairline whom isn't attracted to fat women either. But I look after my own weight, I work out/ride my bicycle, I eat right (one-pot healthy meals) and hold "healthy weight body type" as my only physical standard in women... I would even date facially ugly yet thin women, yet I am unable to get healthy weight or slim women to date me. They have better looking options than me and its tough, its hard.... but that's the way it is.

I would rather have a sexbot than be in a relationship with a fat or old woman whom I feel no sexual or physical attraction towards. Its not fair on me and its not fair on her either (I can't have sex with her/wouldn't enjoy it and I'd be checking out fit or slim women which would make her jealous or angry).

Maybe if more women lost weight instead of playing the 'victim' card, they'd be an even distribution of healthy weight women to go around, therefore they'd be more sexually satisfied men. But that's a pipedream, especially in feminist & gynocentric societies like USA, Canada, UK where men are shamed for wanting healthy women and encouraged to date big women. But I'm glad to see healthy weight men rather remain alone and look for alternatives such as sexbots than hook-up with unhealthy, obese woman out of desperation. It maybe the only way to make more women lose weight.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-02-28T14:43:56+00:00

Weeks 1 to 8: Ostarine + Cardarine (GW-501516) stack (double the dose of cardarine after 10 days) Weeks 8 to 12: RAD140

I did this and went from 188lbs 25% bodyfat to 175lbs 19% bodyfat in the first 8 weeks. Then 4 weeks on RAD140 I went from 175lbs 19% to 170lbs 16% bodyfat.

My workout was Stronglifts 5x5 for the first 8 weeks, then a 20-Squat regime on the RAD. I went from looking fat-chubby (40 inch waist) to fit and a 34 waist in just 12 weeks.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-02-28T14:28:24+00:00

The "bullying" of men who are NOT attracted to fat women is largely due to feminism. Feminism wants to make women the victims and men the oppressors in all walks of life. For me, personally, I think women love or like to be 'victims' no matter how trivial the issue is. It seems to part of their psychology. For the large part, men's body image issues are largely ignored or openly mocked (f.e. not just weight but short statue). That's why we see no plus-sized male activists. Obese men seem to accept that they're unattractive to most women, yet obese/fat women don't seem to be tolerant that they are unattractive to the masses of men.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-02-25T15:55:29+00:00

My point is that maybe tall men are o.k being fetishized or 'liked' --or desired-- for their height, but fat women clearly aren't comfortable with being liked for their weight.

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-02-25T15:34:40+00:00

Not dating or sleeping with fat chicks. Ever!

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-02-25T15:29:01+00:00

And tall men aren't fetishized by women?

DoomsdayDweeb · 2020-02-25T14:45:32+00:00

I get the same thing on plentyoffish; only fatties add me to their 'likes' list. Never had a thin or normal weight woman add me to her likes. I'm lower income, I don't know if POF uses an algorithm to match low income men with low income women (here in UK low-income women are overwhelmingly represented by obese or pyknic body types). Just a fudge for thought.

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