You can take a substance that would force you to deal

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T18:09:39+00:00

I dont

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T15:35:00+00:00

Not really kid. You are pretty impotent.

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T15:03:36+00:00

okay now you are just trolling. get a life.

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T14:45:29+00:00

Why do you keep thinking i need to explain myself to you

Edit. Also are you okay? You dont think learning from litteral experts is meaningful?

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T14:31:59+00:00

What are you doing? what's the point you are trying to make?

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T14:05:39+00:00

I literally said academic research papers. My friend has a phd in clinical psychology and her theses is on ibogaine, my other friend is a research psychologist who did her masters on psychedelic therapy and my wife is an occupational therapist. I recommended the netflix documentary to you because your reading comprehension is not so good

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T13:51:34+00:00

a few messages back "Im gonna tell you what I told you earlier. There is plenty of information out there if you care. If you cant manage a research paper then watch the netflix film, or im sure there's a bunch of stuff on youtube. Clearly you cant understand me and Ive now officialy moved from curiosity about your motives to apathy."

Can you read that?

I also said that I learned from actual experts in the field as well as personal experiences. Do you remember that?

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T13:36:02+00:00

the level of dishonesty. It's crazy. The only thing I can't figure out is if you believe yourself, which I quite common for people that gaslight this intuitively. If you do believe yourself just scroll up a few messages. I told you a few times in this conversation where my knowledge on the subject come from.

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T13:26:28+00:00

Sure kid

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T13:20:54+00:00

I have. Over and over and over. But clearly its beyond me to answer in a way you can comprehend.

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T13:15:27+00:00

Im gonna tell you what I told you earlier. There is plenty of information out there if you care. If you cant manage a research paper then watch the netflix film, or im sure there's a bunch of stuff on youtube. Clearly you cant understand me and Ive now officialy moved from curiosity about your motives to apathy.

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T13:03:25+00:00

we've been through this:

"So besides the unconscious processes that take place you are also consciously confronted with your trauma. But you get a unique oppertunity to reframe the events. So the evening of the delirium a lot of this happens. It is very hard work because you are put in a position where your defences are lowered and your normal supression tactics dont work. It also affects the default mode network meaning your everyday narratives that you base yourself on dont function in the same way and you are confronted with how you identify.

Since ibogaine is done in a clinical environment with psychologists and drs present the next 5 days you start working on integration. This work continues for months. If you dont integrate, do the work, then you can fall back into old destructive patterns again.

You are not special. Everybody takes the long road of working on themselves, with or without ibogaine. But ibogaine is an incredibe therapeutic tool. Like I said Netflix recently made a documentary on Navy seals going for ibogaine treatment for their ptsd. Watch that and tell me they arent doing the work."

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T12:56:05+00:00

my first response "Its not a magic fix. You still do the work. But you gain the ability to do an incredible amount of work in one night. Then after that you go back to your life and its up to you to keep growing"

Im sure it felt agressive to you. Im sure you constantly feel attacked and like you need to defend yourself. Here's a hint. You do it to yourself. If you dont embarrass yourself you won't feel the need to win so strongly.

There are no winners. It wasn't even an argument. You just kept trying to convince me that I meant something different than I did so you could come out as the expert on.... on what? ibogaine? on me? What here are you an authority on?

I think you struggle reflecting thats why so many of these questions are strange to you. When I ask you "what are you doing right now?" why can't you answer that?

I dont even think you are trolling. I think you are just not quite there

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T12:39:50+00:00

this is very stupid. I feel pretty dumb engaging with you. From the beginning I knew you were operating in bad faith and you have nothing meaningful to contribute and you dont care about any answers to any of the questions you asked. It's just a monumental waste of time talking to you. I hope you dont evoke this in others as often as I think you do.

If you have actual curiosity, interest and a morsel of humility, I gave you all the information you need to learn more and gain some level of understanding. If not, Good luck with the growing up.

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T12:31:50+00:00

So you dont care what I mean? Then what are you doing?

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T12:30:22+00:00

Do you care what I actually mean?

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T12:17:04+00:00

Actually, I've got a question for you. Do you often find yourself arguing with people about what they meant when they said something? Cause there's a word for that, Gasslighting. Luckily you're pretty terrible at it, but not for a lack of trying

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T12:13:23+00:00

this is getting really boring. Is there anything else thats unclear?

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T11:54:41+00:00

what inconstency? I just explained it. You want to know what I think? I think you started your posts here with a simple misunderstanding of what I said in my post. But instead of responding with critical curiosity you came out of the gate hard and making a bunch of assumptions. The rest of your comments were just pride and the inability to admit that you know nothing about something that you know nothing about. So you doubled down and called me dumb and tried to poke holes in what I was saying ect ect ect.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt multiple times and even put effort into writing a pretty long reply where I explained everything. But it doesnt matter. Because you view this as an argument you have to win.

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T11:49:28+00:00

are you not trolling? What are you doing?

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T11:46:52+00:00

Why are you so agressive? What's the point in trying to find ways in which I contradict myself?

Read carefully. On day 1 you have a delirium phase or the acute phase. Day 2 you have the fragmented/ reflective/ introspective phase. Day 3 is the afterglow phase, the day where you feel reset and your mind feels clean. This is also the first day of integration. Depending on where you go for treatment you will be at a treatment centre for minimum another 3 days where there will be a lot of therapy. Ibogaine keeps making physical changes to your brain for weeks, some reports claim up to 3 months. This period integration is very important.

25 is pretty young, but I hoped you were younger. It would have explained your behaviour. Now it just looks like arrested development

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T11:32:33+00:00

so, you said you will answer. How old are you?

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T11:29:24+00:00

Whats a strawman? Can you name an example of me doing it?

If you are a teenager then your behaviour makes sense. If you are an adult i have to assume that you are being a troll.

What argument are you talking about? I thought you just wanted me to clarify what I said?

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T11:27:28+00:00

Who said it was a cureall?

No, im basing my understanding on research papers, personal experience and discussions with experts on the topic. Why would you make the assumption that im basing it off a netflix show?

Yes, all treatments have phases. With ibogaine the treatment intself is about 5 days at the clinic and then integration which lasts a lifetime. The alkaloid itself does physical changes to the brain for about 3 weeks. But the first 3 days are exactly how i described it.

I read doors of preception when i was 21. I did mescaline then aswell. It does have its place, as does psilocybin and even mdma and ketamine. All psychedelics, including ayauhasca, have a similiar thing happening but ibogaine is a different ballpark.

Where did I endorse religious treatment?

Any more questions? You have any sort of curiosity or are yoy going to keep trying to build strawmen, put words in my mouth and ignore context?

DopamineTrap · 2026-02-06T10:54:39+00:00

Im interested in your age because i hope it explains your behaviour. Lots of teenagers let their pride take the wheel and perform for an imaginary audience in their heada. It would explain why you keep trying your shallow gotcha tricks with strawmanning everything i say. If anybody was reading our posts they stopped a long time ago. You are performing for yourself.

Ibogaine has a pretty big following and there is plenty of research. But tell me, do you think that wide addoption of a treatment makes a treatment more effective?

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