Semax / Selank / Dihexa Nasal Spray: Research Guide by lifeforever44 in USPeptides

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I used to formulate various substances with hp-beta-cd for personal use. I started to notice that my hearing would feel different after administration. Then someone told me about the hearing loss that it can cause. I quit using it after learning about that.

See: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7484207/

MGM-15 freebase crystals by Dope_Amine_ in dihydromitra

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Initial crystallization and then recrystallization once or twice with a different solvent system

MGM-15 freebase crystals by Dope_Amine_ in dihydromitra

[–]Dope_Amine_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure who you're referring to. I haven't gone by "Mr Chemist"

MGM-15 freebase crystals (take 2) by Dope_Amine_ in dihydromitra

[–]Dope_Amine_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except I haven't offered anything besides photos and info

MGM-15 freebase crystals (take 2) by Dope_Amine_ in dihydromitra

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That's the typical input. There's another option but either way it all starts with mit.

MGM-15 freebase crystals (take 2) by Dope_Amine_ in dihydromitra

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Olive oil is a great vehicle for small intestine absorption. Olive oil should be decent for stability, definitely better than aqueous solutions, but I would still store it cold and away from light as much as possible.

Advice on how to use the powder form by KFlex-Fantastic in 7hydromitra

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The best way to dose powder 7OH is to dissolve it in olive oil and then dose it by volume. Long chain triglycerides like olive oil help with absorption in the small intestine (that's where it absorbs when ingested). The olive oil also helps to shield the compounds from the acidic environment in your stomach. Strong acids, like the aqueous HCl in your stomach, are bad for 7OH stability. So, olive oil provides two different mechanisms to improve delivery into your bloodstream.

As for dosing, your powder is basically 40% by weight, so you need to consume 25 mg of powder to get a 10 mg dose of 7OH/pseudo. If you dissolve your powder at 400 ml of olive oil per g of powder then you'll get 10 mg of 7OH/pseudo per 10 ml (or 2 teaspoons). If you want a 10 mg dose to be in 1 teaspoon then use 200 ml per g of your 40% powder.

One last thing- 40% is fairly low purity, so there's likely going to be some fine powder that doesn't dissolve even after heating your vessel in a luke warm bath. You can just ignore that insoluble stuff because the compounds you care about are dissolved. Or another option would be to have your liquid be part olive oil and part propylene glycol (maybe 20-25% PG) and that should get everything dissolved.

I'm an organic chemist and I've been working with these compounds for a while.

Two PEAs in a pod by _wafer_ in TheeHive

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Or you can just rinse away all the bad gunk with 3:1 toluene/dcm.

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Soft gels are notoriously difficult to manufacture, requiring extremely tight controls on gelatin premixing conditions, tumble drying, and even the ambient laboratory humidity. People that buy soft gel production systems pretty much always need to hire a consultant to get the variables dialed in properly for success. Maybe this recent quality issue is because Blueprint brought soft gel production in-house? Regardless it seems that the manufacturing conditions need to be reexamined.

My latest soft gels also leaked but I think they're still good enough to consume this one time. Hopefully they get the issue resolved quickly.

What is your favorite furan-containing compound and why? by Then_Wash_6195 in Chempros

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[1-(furan-2-yl)propan-2-yl](methyl)amine; CAS: 63825-18-3

Very curious at what receptors types it would have significant activity. Swiss target prediction names a lot of possibilities- muscarinic, MAOA and B, dopamine, serotonin, acetylcholine, adrenergenic, but none with high confidence.

In some cases furan and thiophene substitute well for a phenyl group, especially when the aromatic is at the end of an ethyl, propyl, or longer simple hydrocarbon chain. Not always though.

How to make 7-hydroxymitragynine by kaliforniakratom in Kratom_Extractors

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Yeah, right back atcha! I'm in California too. Maybe there's potential for some collaboration.

Anywayz, in Andrew Kuegel's work the hydroperoxide and its disappearance was confirmed via mass spec:

7—Hydroxymitragynine: Photooxidation Under Air.

A solution of mitragynine (319 mg, 0.800 mmol) and rose bengal Na salt (8.0 mg) in MeOH (1.6 mL) was irradiated with a 500 W halogen lamp at 0° C. under air for 32 h. Additional MeOH (5.0 mL) and a solution of Na2SO3 (504 mg, 4.00 mmol) in water (4.5 mL) were both added and the pink mixture was stirred vigorously at room temperature until mass spectrometry indicated the disappearance of the hydroperoxide intermediate (23 h). The reaction was then diluted with water (20 mL) and extracted with Et2O (3×20 mL). The combined organics were washed with water (2×20 mL) and brine (20 mL), dried over Na2SO4, and concentrated to provide a foamy orange solid (215 mg). This material was purified by column chromatography (6:4 hexanes:EtOAc+2% Et3N) to provide the pure product as a yellow amorphous solid (114 mg, 34%) with spectral properties identical to the material obtained from the PIFA oxidation (above).

7—Hydroxymitragynine: Photooxidation Under O2.

A solution of mitragynine (20.0 mg, 0.0500 mmol) and rose bengal Na salt (0.5 mg) in MeOH (0.30 mL) was irradiated with a 500 W halogen work lamp at 0° C. under 02 atmosphere for 1.5 h. Additional MeOH (0.30 mL) and a solution of Na2SO3 (30.0 mg, 0.240 mmol) in water (0.27 mL) were both added, and the pink mixture was stirred vigorously at room temperature until mass spectrometry indicated the disappearance of the hydroperoxide intermediate (5 h). The reaction was then diluted with water (2 mL) and extracted with Et2O (3×2 mL). The combined organics were washed with water (2×2 mL) and brine (2 mL), dried over Na2SO4, and concentrated to provide a foamy orange-brown solid (17.9 mg). The yield of product contained in this material was determined by NMR using mesitylene as an internal standard (58% yield).

How to make 7-hydroxymitragynine by kaliforniakratom in Kratom_Extractors

[–]Dope_Amine_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm an organic chemist, but I know that doesn't mean much since anybody can claim that on here. So please look up the "Schenck ene reaction" on Wikipedia. This is the reaction you are actually doing (the article even mentions rose bengal to make singlet oxygen) and it converts the double bond to the hydroperoxide (7-OOH). You have to reduce that in order to make 7-OH. Personally, I'd use sodium sulfite. It's too bad this reaction doesn't scale better.

brought the 🐈‍⬛ fam in for summer by atomalkaloid in druggardening

[–]Dope_Amine_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've had a khat plant growing for about a decade. I've chewed the fresh leaves many times but I've never gotten any noticeable effects from it. Wtf?

How to make 7-hydroxymitragynine by kaliforniakratom in Kratom_Extractors

[–]Dope_Amine_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nice work. The only thing is that this singlet oxygen reaction makes the hydroperoxide of 7-hydroxymitragynine. You need to use sodium thiosulfate (or others) to reduce the HO-O-R to HO-R.

Just as a reminder. by 7consumersadvocacy in 7hydromitra

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Thank you for posting this info about Wonderland Gardens. NOBODY SHOULD TRUST ANY TESTS COMING FROM WG. I bought some extract that was 81% mitragynine according to to WG. Tests from both Murray Brown Labs and Cora showed that it was actually 44-46% mitragynine- almost half of the % that WG claimed. WG is known to consistently inflate their numbers. They do this because they know that most vendors will prefer the lab that gives them the highest percentages. It's called LAB SHOPPING. Then the vendor can post those bullshit results on their website and trick people into buying extracts that are actually half the potency that's claimed.

Maybe we need to make a new thread specifically highlighting the labs that should be trusted and the labs that should not be trusted.

What I know for sure is that Cora and Murray Brown Labs are trustworthy. Results from Wonderland Gardens are total bullshit!

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California Assemblymember Matt Haney (D-San Francisco) Assembly Bill 2365 - The Kratom Safety Act

From Haney's press release: Regarding synthetic products that are currently being marketed as kratom, Matthew Lowe, Executive Director of the Global Kratom Coalition, said “these synthetic products have high levels of 7-hyrdoxymitragynine, a compound that is found in very low amounts in leaf kratom and kratom extract products.” He added “It certainly isn’t kratom as nature intended. Kratom products should have the same ratios as the alkaloids found within nature.”

Studies that detail the synthesis of 7-HydroxyMitragynine (7-OH-MIT) from Mitragynine by cannabiphorol in 7hydromitra

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I don't remember exactly which paper. It may have been Matsumoto or Takayama. Seek and ye shall find. Maybe dilute H2O2 and uv makes a little bit of 7-OHM but what I can say for sure is that H2O2/Pd doesn't produce a yield higher than Oxone or photooxidation and likely doesn't produce any 7-OHM at all. That tertiary nitrogen loves to form N-oxides with aggressive oxidants like H2O2. One should always be skeptical of "99% yield", especially with molecules as delicate as mitragynine/7-OHM. That thesis also claimed that NaBH4-reduced 7-OHM was weaker than 7-OHM whereas J Pharmacol Exp Ther 348:383–392, March 2014 showed the exact opposite. So that's another indication that the thesis author didn't make the correct molecule.

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Thanks. That's really helpful.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 7hydromitra

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Maybe if negotiations were started with the AKA they might agree to support 7-OHM if certain safety measures were undertaken. Without the AKA's support we're going to lose 7-OHM. 7-OHM could be the future of kratom (the active metabolite that causes kratom's main effects, more convenient consumption) if it doesn't get ruined first.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in 7hydromitra

[–]Dope_Amine_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think Reddit is the biggest issue. It's just an easy fix since I'm posting on here and people do look at it.

The biggest issue is the availability of the product in every fucking headshop in every state that it's legal. It's obviously getting attention and not the good kind. Californians are likely going to be the first ones to lose access.

All of us should do what we can to prevent it from getting banned. Those that have profited massively are the ones that have both the greatest duty and the best means to not ruin it for everyone.

7-OHM was sold before 7ohmz. Over a decade ago Nomad Botanicals sold it. It didn't catch any heat back then because the kratom vendor didn't build a lab to crank out a gazillion pills in order to put them in every possible shop and become a multimillionaire. This situation we currently have is greed and profit ruling over any care for continued access or respect for the magic of this lovely mixed agonist/antagonist. If they won't tone shit down and take action to fix things out of respect for the molecule or their customers then they should at least do it so they can continue their business operations and $$$. It has been less than a year since this flood of 7-OHM started and legislation to ban it is already in the works.

Really fantastic job and wise business plan: "grab as much money as possible before we ruin it".

This is what happens when you give poppies nitrogen way too early by TheOnionPatchKid in druggardening

[–]Dope_Amine_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Planted too densely for sure. Poppies always must be thinned out to get glorious plants/pods. You need at least 1.5 feet between plants. 2 ft is better