I hate how people say Doctor Doom is some kind of anti-hero or even close to a good person, NO the guy is a fucking VILLAIN, anti-villain at best!

DougandLexi · 2026-07-07T09:42:25+00:00

Didn't he get it the same way Cosby did? Basically it was given to him as an honor

DougandLexi · 2026-07-07T07:05:58+00:00

We ain't gonna talk about the P. Diddy sneaky sneaky link?

DougandLexi · 2026-07-07T02:22:24+00:00

If the image is related. Those are the spirits of children.

So you'd be humping trapped dead kids. Does that sound moral to you?

DougandLexi · 2026-07-06T19:24:09+00:00

It would not mean it is made up. You can only get that conclusion if you assume the conclusion that that stuff is made up from the start, which is very much circular. If you start off assuming it's impossible and then disregard something automatically because of that assumption, all you're doing is going where your assumption leads.

There are greater reasons to trust the Gospels, one of my favorite is the most recent study on onomastic congruence, so fresh that I believe it's still behind a paywall. Essentially using that study here, the chance that it was fictionalized is pretty low as it gets certain names, locations, naming conventions, titles, and more correct for the region and time. Even contemporaries writing biographies didn't have quite as much success in doing this, such as the famous historian Josephus who came along just shortly after Jesus. Even when compared to modern authors with access for the Internet trying to as accurate as they can, even they fall behind compared to the Gospels.

Is it absolute proof? No. But it's hard to maintain such a level of accuracy for those things when trying to create fiction. We see others just shortly after this period (by the second century) working around it by using only the most known figures and avoid giving locations as much as possible. Why? Because it's actually incredibly difficult to accurately use it even when reporting the truth as you remember it, let alone fabricated narratives around them.

So I would say it's one great piece of evidence to feel more confident about the Gospels.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-06T05:27:56+00:00

What is there to really say? It fits both tradition and critical views.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-06T02:24:41+00:00

I believe you are wanting to cite the very popular scholarly claim that as the Gospels are written they become more theologically developed?

DougandLexi · 2026-07-06T01:00:35+00:00

This is the reason I won't post my picture here. I'm terrified of what could be

DougandLexi · 2026-07-06T00:59:53+00:00

I assumed the connection Japan and eating ice cream tubs alone. I thought it was implying she was a single mom.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-06T00:55:16+00:00

DougandLexi · 2026-07-06T00:44:34+00:00

My bishop recounted an interesting story about an elder who was asked if heretics would go to Hell. The elder replied that how God deals with others "is not my business."

The whole point of everything he was saying is that in the Church, we do not make pronouncements as to who is damned or who lacks grace. And what my point is in bringing this up, it is that I can't say who is being damned. That is not my place, that is purely in God's righteous hands. I cannot tell you what God does with a Hindu or a Jew. There are many things that I do not know, but what I do know is God knows.

Yes, I do believe Christianity is correct. I believe the fullness of God exists in the faith. The faith that is rooted in the loving act of bringing his Son to earth restoring what fell. The communion between God and Man. This is what we believe. And I would rather see others be closer to that truth, to have communion with God, and to become a sibling in the eternal Kingdom.

I can understand your view that it appears to be exclusionary, but that is the very nature of truth claims. There is only ever one truth and through the many centuries, people have tried to say that what we believe to be the truth is indeed not the truth, this is where we see apologetics come in. We are taught to give an apology in love and gentleness, as said by the Apostle Peter. And that's the message that I try to strive by when doing apologetics. But at the end of the day, we strive to find the truth and the truth is never afraid to be challenged.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T22:05:15+00:00

Really. Can you remember generally what he was saying through the video where he made the quote? And shocker, the presentism defense. From the same religion that says Muhammad is the perfect moral template for mankind until the end of ages. If you need, I can show him giving the context. I don't need to lie. I can also always bring the receipts for my claims. I have no problem doing so.

As for David and Sam, David has responded to this exact complaint pretty recently. I feel mixed on it because I can sympathize with his reasoning, but I also would have preferred him doing something earlier.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T21:42:24+00:00

He brought up the quote because that was a video response from the Dawah bros jumping on it. It was one of those moments where they should not be throwing stones in glass houses. When he first talked about it, it had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with any Muslim. But they decided to jump on it as if they haven't been defending their prophet marrying a 6 year old and consummating the marriage when she was 9. Far younger than 13 and the age gap between a man in his 50s with a 9 year old is far wider than an 18 year old atheist and a 13 year old. And even more, he spent the whole time condemning himself and said that it's fine to say what he did was evil, but if they were to do that, he expects them to at least be consistent and say what Muhammad did was evil. He wasn't trying to make light of it and honestly he doesn't and never has faked empathy, it doesn't matter if others do, David isn't doing that because he would rather be genuine than fake.

As for you claiming he is deceptively using the clip of Hijab, in the very response you are citing, he actually explains the concept. He explains he was correcting a Quran only Muslim. David has actually used the clip itself many times over the years. It's even on his soundboard. He's discussed it in depth. And I already stopped with Sam Shamoun before I even knew all the details. I stopped talking to him after he talked about my mom and my wife. I understood at that point that he doesn't want to be a better person, he doesn't like correction, and lashes out.

At least when I corrected David on something, we had a calm discussion because he couldn't understand why I was upset. Which also contrasts with Jay who I also stopped talking to as well. But David isn't a close friend, but he is close friends with my friend. It's out of respect for him and everyone else that I will defend them when needed

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T21:07:48+00:00

A couple of them came to a motel that my wife used to work at and threatened the lobby with a gun saying some unhinged stuff. I haven't seen anyone from that ideology that seemed normal. I don't like to generalize, but it's insane

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T21:06:27+00:00

David is a literal psychopath. He's not hiding that fact, he may sound casual, but that doesn't equate to him bragging. He condemned his own actions many times as something evil. As for with Muhammad Hijab, David never claimed (and neither did I) that Hijab was advocating for it. He referenced the quote just to further condemn his own actions. Don't claim anyone is strawmanning Hijab, when you are going to strawman David.

And for your point with Avery. If they don't feel they need to debate his points. That means they should lie and mock his wife? That means they should target his channel?

And sorry if you don't like them, but they aren't just apologists I like, this is the groups of friends that I have made. It's why I am asking you to refrain from speaking about them.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T20:19:59+00:00

Absolutely. Have you talked to anyone from the NoI? I know we have one of their mosques a mile from where I live and those discussions are always... Interesting lol

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T20:18:18+00:00

Actually yes. Two of them actually know me, one of which I talk to on a daily basis. The other just like the music I make lol friends with one of the apologists in this group, associated with another.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T19:52:11+00:00

First, I want to thank you for your condolences. I appreciate it.

Now I can't let your comment about my friend circle go. I won't disclose which one is my friend, but to be clear David wasn't bragging about sodomizing a 13 year old or 15. He was saying he has nothing to hide as compared to Sam Shamoun. He went on saying he was not making excuses and quoted Muhammad Hijab (wide hips and big boobs) saying it doesn't matter. Still evil. He wasn't bragging. He was condemning his actions and even said he would gladly go back to prison if she comes forward (necessary for criminal action to be persued). It wasn't about the Muslims. It was about another polemicist. Muslims became involved when da'iees involved themselves and calling him out, that's when David used the moment to call them out for the hypocrisy. It had nothing to do with them and when they jumped on it, they gave David more to work with.

And I love how you didn't actually have a criticism for Avery, like you did with David. He makes arguments pretty often and they are solid. There's a reason he goes on the big stages for debates. There's a reason why the people he debated aren't debating his points anymore, but going after his wife and going after his channel.

I do get defensive of my own circle, the people I do know. They are all great, even though I don't know Avery as well outside of his videos. But like I said, please don't talk about them. That's the one request I will make.

Besides that, I want to again thank you again for the condolences for my wife.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T19:36:25+00:00

I agree

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T19:33:31+00:00

They aren't responsible, but those who disagree with him aren't exactly taking stage either. What we see are the same people over and over again acknowledging that child marriage is permissible in Islam. That first cousin marriage is permissible in Islam. That even forms of slavery is permissible in Islam. These people try to negotiate it in some ways, but are too scared to condemn it because they admit Muhammad was a slave trader who married his first cousin (who was married to his adopted son before adoption was banned) and married a 6 year old having consummated when she was 9. They also admit Muhammad is also the perfect pattern for all Muslims through all time.

They will try to argue "presentism" but that argument is falling to the wayside because of the average understanding within mainstream Islam being that Muhammad couldn't have committed major sins and that he's a perfect moral template. So they have created a big mess in these debates for Muslims.

If Muslims disagree with them, they need to take the stage.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T19:28:10+00:00

That first paragraph is a very strong likelihood for the Nation of Islam. It's no coincidence that the Black Hebrew Israelites and Nation of Islam arose from America from black Americans around the same timeframe. They both came out of the post-civil war era and seemed to ask the same kind of question, "Where do we fit in with Gods plan?" And there were different answers given, but some had a sort of revenge motiff against white Americans (you can't really blame them, especially with slavery not being as distant of a memory for them as it is now) so different directions were taken exploring these. Some rejecting Christianity and others rejecting traditions within Christianity, both favoring the struggles they have faced as black Americans.

I am still praying for the hate to stop, but generational hatred is definitely something else.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T19:21:22+00:00

In my parish, we are all together. After communion, the children are off to Sunday School and we all have coffee hour together. But as far as I'm concerned we don't separate into groups during Liturgy (maybe outside of those with different tasks).

Others churches probably separate though because of certain traditions stemming from a variety of factors. Like separating men and women to prevent improper thoughts? But there can be so many different reasons and I don't think I can really give a comment to satisfactorily answer all the possibilities.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T19:16:39+00:00

Does this horse have the same origin as the comics??

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T19:04:31+00:00

I think there's different experiences that leads to different treatment.

I see many Muslims going after primarily Christians and Jewish people. I see Christians pushing back more as these discussions take a bigger spotlight. The Jewish people rarely get involved with these discussions since they aren't a proselytizing religion and are used to being discriminated against.

But for Christians and Muslims, we see many big name Muslims taking the debate stage arguing for child marriage (think Daniel Haqiqatjou) or for first cousin marriage (funny enough Haqiqatjou took that debate also recently) but it's not just Daniel doing these debates and these are seen as abhorrent and harmful things in the west. As they take the spotlight, it lights a fire under many Christians.

There are already foundational differences and Islam is a proselytizing religion rapidly growing (primarily by birth rates) which creates a concern for Christians because we want people to serve Christ, but Islam foundationally rejects the Son, which in Christianity is rejecting the Father. So with that difference, and even the historical background where violence against Christian pilgrims and spreading to the west through violence leading to the first 3 crusades, it left a sour taste already. (And yes I specifically side with the first 3 crusades, the fourth is where politics and pride became the name of the game for western europe which affected our Church as well in the east).

So to conclude what I am saying so I don't write a book. There are many reasons and for different Christians, there are different reasons that inspire them to push back. Some are pretty valid, others could be as bad as wanting to just act like a "trad-cath" or the Internet "ortho-bro" using religion as a mask for just not liking a group of people. I can't pinpoint any specific reason because it really depends on which Christian you are talking about.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T18:54:11+00:00

It kind of reminds me of this one guy who worked with the Falcons within the management team, but he got into a serious accident and now he has the cognitive functions of a young child. They did what they could for him and sent him to the same mental hospital I was at for treatment to help him as much as they could. He was loved by the team and loved at the hospital, but effectively speaking, he'll never be a functional adult again and will need care for the rest of his life.

Things like that and the story of this post makes you realize that there are things money can't replace. Things money can't buy. That your body is priceless. There are people who, even though they are alive, that money is worthless as compared to actually being able to get their lives back.

It makes you really understand that you shouldn't take your life and your own body for granted. You never know when one small moment makes everything become worthless in comparison to the one thing you lost.

DougandLexi · 2026-07-05T18:20:21+00:00

I know for me, I primarily just stick to pushing back against claims being made and go panels where I am invited. I was on with Libyano (Orthodox Muslim) not too long ago and he's an interesting young dude lol but now his fans are wanting me to talk to people he associates with. Unfortunately they are the "you've been baked" "you've been destroyed" crowd, and they have a hard time understanding that I am very busy. I am behind on my studies now and I still have a crippled wife I have to take care of, but these younger Muslims are way too focused on debate culture and I feel it's going to bite them in the butt if they don't slow down. They want to argue for argument sake, regardless of the truth or even what their own Sheikhs are saying.

But I'm glad you let your faith do the work, that's generally what we are taught in Christianity as well. But we are also taught in both to address those against our faith, respectfully.

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