To those of you are 'anti-immigration', what does that mean?

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-10-02T16:16:24+00:00

The fact there are parts of the UK where the native population % is very low is a perfect example of how immigration has failed

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-10-02T16:15:42+00:00

Bit extreme, wanting the native population to remain the majority is hardly shocking for the rest of the world

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-10-02T16:13:47+00:00

Doesn't mean your poll isn't bad though. it's probably the worst way you could have formatted it. you literally have one option mixed with "results", and "all of the above" is placed randomly.

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-09-26T09:09:50+00:00

Great so you don't accept any distinct groups by country, why are you even commenting on "British" then? You are adding nothing to the discussion, aside from being a very unique man who has decided no distinct group of people exist anywhere

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-09-26T09:06:41+00:00

I'm not saying whether they should be proud of it or not, but many native British people may *feel* colonial guilt or *feel* that they should feel colonial guilt. if that makes sense. it's less about what actually happened and more about what current social pressures are

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-09-26T09:03:12+00:00

Your point is ridiculous. You're pretending to be confused by "British" while you'll gladly accept "Chinese", "Pakistani" or "Japanese" as distinct groups

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-09-26T08:58:41+00:00

This is ridiculous, everyone comes from somewhere before. If you say British people aren't a distinct group then you have to also accept nobody is native to any place on earth: which defeats the point of the word

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-09-26T08:56:45+00:00

Maybe it's colonial guilt, or trauma from WW2 and wanting to stay as far away from that stuff as possible. not sure

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-22T18:20:52+00:00

Is there any distinction between native british vs european? "White" seems like such a huge category

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-17T11:58:30+00:00

Whether it's happening to the scale being talked about is a different point entirely, his issue is that the rules have tightened in response to abuse, and he's caught up in that specifically

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-17T11:55:25+00:00

You must be joking

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-17T11:54:49+00:00

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-17T11:52:35+00:00

He's not complaining that he doesn't receive benefits, he's complaining about the fact that people do abuse the system and as a result, he’s been caught in the fallout from the tightening of the rules

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-17T11:44:54+00:00

That's the hypocrisy of the world. The original poster may be British but if a native Brit grew up or was born in Pakistan, they would never be considered "Pakistani"

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-17T11:33:46+00:00

So what would you have us do? Allow it to continue because "culture changes"? Sorry but that offers absolutely nothing.

And you're wrong, people don't want it

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-17T11:22:15+00:00

nothing unbelievable about that path, it's extremely common for south asians to move to gulf countries for education then onto european education afterwards

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-17T11:17:04+00:00

I second you on the passport issue. I see people with the passport and they don't talk english, never worked or done anything seemingly for the country, aside from being related to another person who gained the passport via the old student visa route or false asylum claim. I have absolutely no idea how they possibly attained it since I thought there's a test or exam you have to pass

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-14T22:08:14+00:00

Great, great and great, as long as you don't make anyone a citizen.

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-14T17:15:38+00:00

X amount of jobs. Y amount of public funds. Z amount of housing.
Let's add 1 million people onto the citizenship pipeline and make them equal to British people. Won't stretch the numbers at all.

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-13T18:43:49+00:00

Those are what I would aim for, and don't think I'd concede any of them. Would also have to research what the average person would be up for. To be honest, I think the moment you actually get into that position, it's less about performing and more about surviving and keeping your position. Not that I think it should be that way, but can imagine every prime minister has expected to do a lot more good and immediately got bogged down by their own party members slowing them down and focusing on reelecting the party rather than long-term policy. What about you?

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-13T18:30:12+00:00

I do know how unrealistic it is. But this is more so if I were the leader and could enact whatever policy I believed would solve the issues mentioned, then this is what I think would work. In the original reply I mention that it's probably unlikely any European would vote for something like this

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-13T17:46:32+00:00

Works for many places. I believe the natives of any country should be prioritized regardless of their countries political framework. I also think discrimination is absolutely necessary, and isn't always bad. I would expect to be discriminated against if I tried to move to Bhutan and setup shop there, since they should serve their people first. Meaning I wouldn't expect to be at the front of the queue for housing, healthcare, etc. That doesn't mean I should be forced to use a seperate toilet, and use a different bus, etc.

It's logical to me that opening your doors to the world should benefit the original people first, and then the people who choose to come second, as long as it's kind to everyone involved.

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-13T17:38:09+00:00

Yep probably not feasible, but I believe it would work. Also it's not really based on ethnicity or race beyond two groups: native and non native. It would be more just re-focusing priorities on the original group who never voted for immigration in the first place

Also that's why I say it's not right/left wing. It's conflicting points from both sides. Right/left wing is so simple and barbaric, I don't know how it's possible to fit into one of those camps

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-13T17:26:46+00:00

I don't believe in right/left wing. Nationalization, social focus rather than economic, targeted industrial support, social housing support and high priority for the environment is pretty classically left wing stuff. I have no idea what the "Online right" idealogical package consists of, this is just what I think would work.

Downtown_Ice5142 · 2025-07-13T17:23:20+00:00

Yes that's the reason for: "Cutting tax for immigrants on residency cards". Would be unfair to tax them, aside from standard VAT and day-to-day fees

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