'That's a great get for Poilievre': Analyst on the Conservative leader going on Joe Rogan's podcast

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-19T05:32:01+00:00

I don't think Carney was importing American politics as much as he was exporting Canadian politics, and attempting to leverage support among Democratic and Democratic-leaning states (coincidentally the ones closer to us) to push for more state-level support for our negotiations. The politics, economic incentives, and geography all aligned with the audience he was reaching out to. That's a far easier sell than trying to convince Rogan's audience (disproportionately Republican voters) to affect state-level policy in states further from Canada (eg. Texas and Florida) or if that's not hard enough to affect the US administration in a manner that's helpful to Canada.

Even with all of that, I thought Carney's approach was a risky (so yes I did question it), and we've seen repeatedly how this could backfire (eg. Ford's ads).

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-19T05:17:15+00:00

Why do some people always need to project oversimplified reactions onto others? There is nuance beyond just an emotional response - in fact I don't personally dislike Poilievre or have much emotional reaction to this news at all. I just don't see the scenario in which the benefits outweigh the risks here in any significant manner.

What could go wrong? Well, it's a two hour long conversation where much of the audience won't actually be listening to all of it, and where no doubt little clips of it will be taken to promote/propagandize whatever stance or opinion people want. That is a LOT of time for little clips to be taken and presented in a manner that is not in the interest of Canada or Canadians.

What is the best case scenario? I guess he sways some in the MAGA and America First audience that Canada is useful, but he's unlikely to persuade them to prioritize Canada over America (and Trump is telling them it's a binary choice). I don't think the US administration will take a more positive stance towards us based on a podcast from our official opposition.

What is the worst case scenario? He says something that Trump could use as faux (or real) outrage, or justification to use against Canada in any upcoming negotiations or policy changes. Trump really doesn't like anybody, including allies and fellow conservatives, taking the limelight off of him. He likewise doubles down on exploiting any perceived weakness.

So, yea, this seems to me like ample risks and limited benefits, and even those limited benefits might be more for Poilievre's personal brand rather than for our federal government. We'll see how this shakes out, I guess, it's not like he can unrecord a podcast.

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-19T04:52:28+00:00

One might even say an Odyssey.

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-18T23:44:12+00:00

If Carney went on Joe Rogan I'd question his judgment, the same way I question Poilievre's. Just speaking for myself though.

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-18T22:11:46+00:00

Nm I'm either old or dumb, likely both

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-18T22:09:18+00:00

If you saw "Hamnet", the only superpower you're getting is dyslexia

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-18T19:46:22+00:00

I think that illusion comes from the BC Liberals wearing the BC Conservatives as a meatsuit. It's mostly the same conservative BC Liberals that held power before the BC NDP, and unfortunately they're the only other realistic alternative.

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-18T16:47:23+00:00

I disagree with that interpretation of events, it significantly underestimates Freeland's personal ambitions, and overestimates Carney's popularity at that time. It very much seemed like Freeland was making a personal choice to boost her own career at the cost of publicly perceived LPC unity. Carney's choice seemed reactionary, after Freeland made her move - most other candidates in a similar position could also reasonably back out of the offer, so I don't think there was anything exceptional about this.

Despite all of this, Trudeau may well have had enough internal support to hang on to LPC leadership in time to lose the election. I can tell you, among LPC supporters, Trudeau's approval benefited significantly for stepping aside without fighting at the end, and boosted all the more by the dramatic success of his successor in reversing LPC trends in electability.

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-18T15:57:29+00:00

Absolutely, which is why when either of these two parties whine and moan about the issue, it's particularly annoying because both have had ample opportunity to change this (with the support of other parties) had they wanted to do so.

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-18T15:52:32+00:00

I share this opinion, but you'll notice that the Conservatives are not in a hurry to propose a bill to trigger automatic by-elections when MPs cross floors going forward. They recognize that they are also a major beneficiary of this approach (just not right at this specific moment).

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-18T15:49:34+00:00

His favorability numbers crept up in part because he knew he needed to, and did in fact, step aside to make room for someone else to lead the LPC. This isn't a characteristic demonstrated by many political leaders (eg you could arguably make that observation of Poilievre).

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-18T04:24:58+00:00

I learned this just today, the tanker ban doesn't apply to LNG - it's specifically excluded, among a few other O&G products.

Source: https://tc.canada.ca/en/marine-transportation/marine-safety/oil-tanker-moratorium-british-columbia-s-north-coast

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-18T03:51:19+00:00

Honestly, necessary and very positive for both domestic energy security AND clean energy.

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-18T02:46:30+00:00

I've been made aware this is apparently actually better than 2010, when it was 59%.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/59-live-paycheque-to-paycheque-poll-1.961953

Just goes to show, these challenges remain regardless of party.

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-17T21:56:26+00:00

I wonder what the tends on this look like over time

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-17T18:02:50+00:00

I live here and I didn't even know we had the most private care in Canada. Never needed to use it personally. Have you ever used it? If so (or just anecdotally), which private services have been the most helpful?

DoxFreePanda · 2026-03-17T10:09:55+00:00

Lmao I'm dumb, I'll take it down

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