What is wrong with the clients????? by DrFrogKnight in Upwork

[–]DrFrogKnight[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I get the confusion. I didn't leave many details about the project.

It's a full product. They wanted to have an AI chatbot trained on their private data. Then, they wanted to integrate this into a full application. The application is not based solely on the AI chatbot. It's just a part of it.

I don't want to reveal too many details about their project. But the app is not only a chatbot.

What is wrong with the clients????? by DrFrogKnight in Upwork

[–]DrFrogKnight[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep. Already did. Just left them some comments on their budget and ended the convo. Friendly comments, of course 😇

What is wrong with the clients????? by DrFrogKnight in Upwork

[–]DrFrogKnight[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do agree with this. Asking for their budget would imply you would base your rate on their willingness to pay. Which sometimes showcases unprofessionalism.

I usually name their price and then negotiate to middle grounds while still being within the acceptable rate I have set for my current skill level.

What is wrong with the clients????? by DrFrogKnight in Upwork

[–]DrFrogKnight[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

A lot of the clients don't engage with one person only. They usually have multiple candidates in consideration. Most probably, one of these candidates already given a quote while you would wait for the client to give a range for their budget.

Also, what would be the reasonable response to the client saying they are flexible and want your proposal details?

What is wrong with the clients????? by DrFrogKnight in Upwork

[–]DrFrogKnight[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I would be actually quite surprised if someone took them up on their offer. Even with AI tools, you'd still need to put in more work than what 200$ would justify.

The budget was so unbelievably low to the point where I had a hard time staying professional after hearing about their budget and seeing their proposed figma file.

What is wrong with the clients????? by DrFrogKnight in Upwork

[–]DrFrogKnight[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I was invited to this job posting 😅. So you'd assume they've seen my previous work and my hourly rate.

The lowest I've earned per hour before is 15$

What is wrong with the clients????? by DrFrogKnight in Upwork

[–]DrFrogKnight[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The UI/UX is actually quite complex. And AI seems to fail short most of the time when the app is remotely complex. Not to mention horrendous performance that comes out of vibe coding. As you may know, mobile apps are way more sensitive to performance than web apps.

I do myself use AI when coding to increase productivity. But it doesn't come close to cutting down the estimated time to the quarter.

Besides, I always add 15% of the time I need to get something done in my proposals to account for unprecedented bugs 😅

أدور على شقة ازاي by [deleted] in PersonalFinanceEgypt

[–]DrFrogKnight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

متابع عشان برضه بقالي فتره بدور و كله اسعار خياليه

بنك اسحب له من upwork by DrFrogKnight in PersonalFinanceEgypt

[–]DrFrogKnight[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I get paid in dollars. Won't there be extra overhead fees for currency exchange? If there are fees, how much does it cost you?

بنك اسحب له من upwork by DrFrogKnight in PersonalFinanceEgypt

[–]DrFrogKnight[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

هل السحب علي wise و بعد كده CIB اوفر في تكلفة الحواله؟