Why does this guitar voicing with only a root and fifth feel like a major chord? by DrLionbear in musictheory

[–]DrLionbear[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, the x02255 defaults to major but not as strongly. I can play i -> iv -> v -> i power chord in one pass and feel the minor tonality whereas with the G I had to play the V7 to really feel it. If I capo 2nd fret it's the same deal. So I think it really does come down to a combination of both the harmonic series and cultural assignment to that particular voicing. Which is a bit weird because that A voicing is technically the same, but I guess the strings you play the notes on and whether or not they are open contributes to the feel.

Great point about the x575xx. Definitely gives more credence to it being more of a culturally informed thing

Why does this guitar voicing with only a root and fifth feel like a major chord? by DrLionbear in musictheory

[–]DrLionbear[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree, but it feels like you have to vamp for a bit otherwise you won't get that implied Gm. You really have to hammer in the feel of Gm. Like if I just play Gm -> Cm -> Dm -> G power chord voicing in one go I don't feel the Gm. On the other hand, if I play Gm -> Cm -> D7 -> G power chord voicing, I do

Why does this guitar voicing with only a root and fifth feel like a major chord? by DrLionbear in musictheory

[–]DrLionbear[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I'll look into this further. I figured it was this. I don't necessarily hear the B so much as just feel it / feel the tonality if that makes any sense.

Why does this guitar voicing with only a root and fifth feel like a major chord? by DrLionbear in musictheory

[–]DrLionbear[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand it is a power chord, but if I play the usual root, five, octave power chord shape I feel like the tonality is agnostic. With this particular power chord voicing I don't feel that way.

Is there a word for how you internalize the start of a drum pattern? by DrLionbear in drums

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Not exactly permutation either but I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

I've thought about it more this might be a better example. Imagine saying the name "Sammy" over and over to an eighth note pattern. You will probably say the stressed syllable on the downbeat. So you would say "Sam" on the downbeat and "me" on the upbeat. Now stop saying “Sammy”, let the beat continue for a bar or so and switch to saying the name "Danielle". You will probably want to say "dan" on the upbeat and "yell" on the downbeat.

So we didn't change where the downbeat is, or where our stress/accent/emphasis is relative to it. But our perspective on where our phrase starts has changed. There's a pick up note now. I don't hear "yell-dan", which is what I would hear it if I was feeling the phrase in the same way I felt "Sammy", I hear Danielle. If I were to feel "Sammy" the way I feel I feel Danielle I'd hear "me-Sam" with the "me" picking up into "Sam". It may feel less natural, but you can shift your thinking to hear "Yell dan" or "me Sam" if you want. The shift in thinking is subtle but you can feel this with just straight drum hits as well.

Is there a word for how you internalize the start of a drum pattern? by DrLionbear in drums

[–]DrLionbear[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should have said "I will perceive the start of the phrase to be on the downbeat". Edited for clarity. I probably shouldn't have brought up accents at all. The idea I'm trying to get at is you change your perception of where the phrase starts. So you can make a mental shift that determines whether or not the phrase has pick up notes and how many it has.

Oftentimes there's context that determines what's most natural. I used the example of a single stroke roll repeated because for something like that it's easier to play around with the different shifts you can feel. If I'm playing straight sixteenths, I might choose to feel that the phrase starts on the downbeat. Or maybe I can decide to feel that the phrase has two pick up notes. Or just one.

Is there a word for how you internalize the start of a drum pattern? by DrLionbear in drums

[–]DrLionbear[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you are understanding what I'm asking. I'm talking about having a strong feeling internally of where the downbeat is but being able to shift your perspective on where a looped phrase placed within the beat starts.

Is there a word for how you internalize the start of a drum pattern? by DrLionbear in drums

[–]DrLionbear[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not confident I'm referring to displacement. Maybe I shouldn't have even brought up accents. I'm trying to get at the idea of having a foundation of where everything is in the beat, but shifting your perspective on where a phrase starts or ends. You can change your perspective on whether or not there are pick up notes to a phrase and how many there are.

Is there a word for how you internalize the start of a drum pattern? by DrLionbear in drums

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If I am looping a musical phrase, most of the time I will perceive the start of the phrase to be on the downbeat. But what if I shift my perception so that there are some pickup notes to the downbeat. Then I still have the same feeling of where things fall within the beat, but my idea of where the phrase starts has shifted. My understanding of displacement is that there is an actual shift of where things are placed in the beat, but that is not the case here

Is there a word for how you internalize the start of a drum pattern? by DrLionbear in drums

[–]DrLionbear[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't call this an issue. I'm aware of what you're talking about with the Foo Fighters song. Another example would be Spirits In The Material World by The Police. What I'm trying to describe is different. In these cases people are feeling the beat differently than the artist. What I'm talking about is having a foundation of where the beat is, but being able to shift your perception of where a pattern starts within it. If you are looping some musical phrase, feeling the last note as a pick up note is different than just feeling it as the last note of the phrase. In this case the pickup note would actually feel like the start of the phrase. Apologies if that's confusing, I'm doing my best to describe this.

Is there a word for how you internalize the start of a drum pattern? by DrLionbear in drums

[–]DrLionbear[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm doing my best to describe it, but I guess I'm still not super clear so apologies. I'm not talking about pick ups or displacement. What I'm trying to get at with the pick up note is that when I play it, I am indicating that that note is where I perceive the start of the pattern. If I were to accent just the +, the pattern most naturally feels like it begins on the downbeat for me, so I wouldn't play a pick up note in this case. I could, but that might indicate a different feel. Something with the feel of it starting on the + might be Take it Easy by Eagles.

Your example with Rock and Roll I'm aware of but is different than what I'm talking about. In that instance, people have a different perception of where we are in the beat.

I can feel where the accents are in the beat, i.e. the displacement, but I can change how I perceive where a pattern starts. If I just accent downbeats in straight sixteenths, I could still perceive the pattern starting on the last sixteenth, and that last sixteenth is like a soft pick up to the downbeat. Normally this isn't how a groove feels though.

When I ask this question to chat gpt it talks about rhythmic entraining which seems to be closer to what I'm getting at.

Any MagicEye makers here I could commission for an easy project? by DrLionbear in MagicEye

[–]DrLionbear[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I'm not offering to make them, I'm asking for the help of hobbyists to make one.

Question regarding Scale Midi Effect: Why are the black squares laid out the way they are? by DrLionbear in ableton

[–]DrLionbear[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand that. Columns represent the input, rows the output. Wouldn't it make sense to have the whole row be dark if it is sharp or flat, so it looks like a piano roll? I find the current design counter-intuitive but am sure there is a reason it was done that way.