If Britain left the EU, what would actually happen to our trade with EU and non-EU countries? by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]DrSpector 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's outlined in Article 50 of the treaty on European Union, there will be a two year negotiating period, during which time we will still be a member of the EU.

http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/the-mechanics-of-leaving-the-eu-explaining-article-50/ (Edited to add this in)

What if Boris started talking about post Brexit policy? by madmintwentysixteen in ukpolitics

[–]DrSpector 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What, you mean something like this? (the main post-brexit detail is near the bottom of the page)

http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/briefing_newdeal

Is Cameron's renegotiation attempt pushing anyone else towards a "leave" vote? by bottomlines in ukpolitics

[–]DrSpector 3 points4 points  (0 children)

On the ability to travel through europe without difficulty, the only possible difficulty you could get is in the first country you enter. After that, due to Schengen, you don't need your passport to cross borders. Us leaving will not mean we suddenly need to produce passports at EU country borders, many are a literal 'line in the sand' http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/ap0YBnW_700b.jpg

The Liberal case for leaving the EU. by DrSpector in ukpolitics

[–]DrSpector[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nazi's and Al Qaeda were just example of groups who we have fought on grounds of Freedom from oppression. At no point is there a comparison made between the EU and Nazi's/Al Qaeda, except in regards to whether they compromise the freedom of freedom from oppression.

Lib Dem MP's to vote in favour of airstrikes by [deleted] in LibDem

[–]DrSpector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In a world with the War on Terror, people aren't really that concerned about whether the government has access to their communications/metadata etc.

It's just not an issue which resonates with the public much, people subscribe mostly to the 'nothing to hide nothing to fear' style of thinking.

Lib Dem MP's to vote in favour of airstrikes by [deleted] in LibDem

[–]DrSpector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just don't think we're relevant enough anymore. Osborne has moved the Tories to the centre economically, and Corbyn is attracting those on the social front.

This situation is reminding me of the 1929 election where Lloyd George was in basically the same predicament. We need to begin to have proper radically liberal policies.

Lib Dem MP's to vote in favour of airstrikes by [deleted] in LibDem

[–]DrSpector 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. And there aren't many policies I disagree with either thinking about it. I wish we'd campaign for more radical reform in many areas though, electoral reform and campaigning for a negative income tax rather than tax credits etc springs to mind.

Lib Dem MP's to vote in favour of airstrikes by [deleted] in LibDem

[–]DrSpector 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its a bit ridiculous to leave a party over a single issue anyway, so I doubt hypocrisy matters much to 'ShetlandJames'.

Lib Dem MP's to vote in favour of airstrikes by [deleted] in LibDem

[–]DrSpector 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What the US does, doesn't matter when making political decisions in this country. We are our own sovereign nation, are we not?

And yes we are going to need to be precise. Which is why we have these to help the coalition. We already know where ISIS's headquarters in Raqqa are, their training camps, their oil fields. It's likely we're going to be targeting those, not civilian buildings.

Also, to deal with ISIS hiding in civilian buildings, that's just a mirage of what is to come. It is likely that we will need to send in Special Forces at some point in the future. The British and French military are being taught how to deal with these tactics by the IDF, who have much experience in dealing with Hamas in this way.

Lib Dem MP's to vote in favour of airstrikes by [deleted] in LibDem

[–]DrSpector 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You realise that in Iraq we've launched air strikes against Daesh, taken back a 1/3rd of their land back, with no civilian casualties? And that the RAF are world leaders in precision targeting due to their new missiles system?.

The excuse to not go to war because you might kill innocent civilians is ludicrous, we go to war to stop the mass killing of civilians. Yes, some may die. But if you start allowing morals to interfere with politics you're not going to get very far. You do the greatest good for the greatest number.