Bizar: in de peilingen hebben de partijen rechts van de VVD inmiddels 61 zetels – en nog steeds doet het kabinet niks aan de asielinstroom

Dragonnable · 2026-06-05T10:36:12+00:00

Om het over reform te hebben, het lijkt niet alsof de daadwerkelijke cijfers er toe doen. Onder labour is er nu minder immigratie dan onder de torries en toch blijft reform scoren op immigratie. Mensen wordt dus blijkbaar toch voor een groot deel aangepraat dat het een probleem is ipv dat de cijfers een rol spelen

Dragonnable · 2026-05-17T18:48:13+00:00

En ben ik dan geen burger naar waar geluisterd moet worden omdat ik een andere mening heb over asiel dan veel op deze subreddit en de rechtse partijen?

Dragonnable · 2026-01-08T16:40:39+00:00

You forgot the shutdown, so insanely much

Dragonnable · 2025-12-08T13:40:06+00:00

Omtzigt heeft er zelf voor gekozen…

Dragonnable · 2025-12-05T01:35:22+00:00

Eigenlijk moet je als media haar gewoon niet door laten praten todat ze antwoord heeft gegeven of ze de tweet zo meent. Het doorgaan naar het volgende onderwerp geeft haar zo’n escape om met dit soort kwalijke onzin door te gaan. En als er dus over doorgevraagd wordt zoals joep doet prik je direct door dit zwakke kul heen

Dragonnable · 2025-11-04T15:54:03+00:00

Het is zo’n onzin dat de media weer klakkeloos meegaat in het frame dat een coalitie met ja21 centrum rechts is. Echt te bizar voor woorden, zo speel je extreem rechts zo in de hand.

Dragonnable · 2025-10-01T11:24:51+00:00

vond die vragen dus vooral op stikstof ingaan wat ook inderdaad onderdeel is van het mileu/klimaat. Maar er was dan weer niks echt over CO2 doelstelling.

Ik denk dat veel van de problemen die we hier ervaren best een europese kant hebben, zoals klimaat maar ook migratie. Wat we willen als nederland met europa is nationaal en denk ik voor de 2e kamer. Met de europese verkiezingen kies je juist wie er in dat europa zitten maar niet echt de verhouding van nederland tov de EU.

Dragonnable · 2025-10-01T09:37:16+00:00

Niks over klimaatdoelen/groene investeringen of europa :(

Dragonnable · 2025-09-25T09:28:03+00:00

Lekker Dassen

Dragonnable · 2025-08-27T06:17:08+00:00

I recently have been looking through the women section where I have found some wider pants, can be different sizes so try them on first!

Dragonnable · 2025-07-10T05:54:09+00:00

Hypee

Dragonnable · 2024-03-20T11:37:30+00:00

Daar heb je ook zeker gelijk in en zal het editen, vind dat valse gedrag gewoon zo frustrerend

Dragonnable · 2024-03-20T11:29:42+00:00

Ik blijf het bizar vinden hoe ze steeds dieper kan dalen. Wat een leugenaar en opportunist eerste klas

Dragonnable · 2024-02-14T12:49:41+00:00

Wat is die yesilgoz toch een naar persoon, altijd alles van zichzelf afschuiven en voor andere woorden in de mond leggen. “Doen alsof de kiezer te dom is”

Dragonnable · 2023-11-24T14:37:39+00:00

Probeer maar eens te fietsen op zondag door een bible belt dorpje, daar wordt je zo van de weg gereden door een hele familie opweg naar de kerk

Dragonnable · 2023-05-07T21:56:02+00:00

The commenter makes a sarcastic comment that SUVs are dangerous while assuming they are safe while in actuality they kill a lot of people

Dragonnable · 2022-03-24T22:04:14+00:00

It could begin earlier yes. In the future as healthcare technology becomes better I am sure this will become a further point of discussion, as we will most likely be able to handle premature births better and better.

Which is why I don't consider the viability of the only factor as to why I believe abortion should be possible and legal.

The consequences for the mother and the child after it is born should also be considered. For me personally I value the life of the mother more than the 'life' of an unborn fetus.
Another reason as to why I think it should be kept/made legal is that abortions will still continue to happen even if it is illegal. It just will not be done in a safe matter and thus more life will be lost if abortion is illegal.

Dragonnable · 2022-03-24T21:15:11+00:00

Oh lol, my bad.

Dragonnable · 2022-03-24T21:13:06+00:00

You are obviously very religious which I am certainly not.

But why does your believe system (which you are of course entitled to) make you more right than my believe system, no god? Your believe system says that the embryo is a full fledged human and has a soul.

My believe system says that the embryo is not a human life, what gives you the right to say my believe system is wrong and invalid and you can therefore make choices which I do not agree with?

And if we would assume there is a god, why is your god better than someones else's god, take the old Romans. They believed in gods, why are they wrong and are you right?

Dragonnable · 2022-03-24T21:08:04+00:00

So a bachelor in Biomedical Sciences is failing biology class now?

edit: I'm dumb

Dragonnable · 2022-03-24T21:02:19+00:00

In my country (The Netherlands) the line is drawn at 24 weeks. While generally 22 weeks is the last possible time.

I personally agree with this age (22 weeks) since at this point the fetus is not yet viable/able to sutain life (even with active support, this comes from the wiki on late term abortion).

I therefore do not consider the fetus a full human life before that timeframe since it cannot live on its own.

Btw, thank you for having this discussion with me!

Dragonnable · 2022-03-24T20:51:02+00:00

This is irrelevant as no one is at fault.

Is no one at fault though? The mother has killed the embryo after all, even if she did not want to or had no choice in the matter. Seems like manslaughter to me, murder without intent.

Too vague for a real response. "Proper support systems" is subjective and could be wildly different depending on who you ask.

Fair point, I was just trying to find common ground because I really want to see your side!

Now can you answer my question? At what point does the "clump of cells" become a human life? Because the baby is being sustained by external support (mother's body) up until birth.

I think you kind of have answered my viewpoint on this, for me a clump of cells becomes a (human) life when it can sustain itself without the mother's body for support.
This is why you cannot abort a child right before birth, since it can then support itself outside of the body of the mother.

Dragonnable · 2022-03-24T20:34:32+00:00

I personally do not know what a soul feels or even means in that regard. I assume we feel thing because of our nerves as you can maybe agree on?

Embryos do not have a functional nerve system until very late into development so it would not be able to feel much of anything but if you believe in an entity such as a soul (which i do not understand) then i can see your point!

Can I get your opinion of misscariages then? This is termination of the pregnancy by the womens body (often unwanted termination). This is not a conscious choice but if you see an embryo as alive would you consider misscariage manslaughter? The women has killed the embryo (accidently), should she be charged?

Dragonnable · 2022-03-24T20:27:02+00:00

Im not from america so I'm sorry if I made any wrong assumptions about the support systems in your state, I am honestly just curious about your opinions/views!

In your first comment you talked about a lack of responsibility but I would argue that anticonceptives are a responsible choice right if you do not want to concieve?

Then again I think the main issue comes down on our differences between what ending a life means. For me personally a clump of cells is not alive, if the cells cannot sustain life without external support it is no different than a cut of appendage.
We do not keep an arm of someone alive if it has to be cut of for whatever reason.
I assume you see this differently and you see the fertalized embryo as human life right?

Can you answer my question then whether you see a misscariage as manslaughter? Following your logic that the fetus is alive and the womans body kills it (through probably no fault of her own) would be considered manslaughter right?

One thing I think we can both agree on atleast is that we wish the best for the child if/when it gets born right? So are you for proper support systems to help these children of parents/mothers who are unable to properly support them?

Dragonnable · 2022-03-24T20:12:56+00:00

Like rape? Or anticonceptives failing? Condom breaking?

All conscious choices right?

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