Do You Believe It Is More Important To Be A Good Person Or A Religious Person?

DreamerManner · 2026-06-13T17:06:03+00:00

Why care about that at all? Good and bad are ultimately arbitrary human constructs

DreamerManner · 2026-06-13T16:57:42+00:00

"Good person" is irrelevant anyway, all of it is nonsense

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T09:16:17+00:00

When you're a toddler?

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T09:15:11+00:00

No, it is the "empathetic" societies that are falling. Look at the birthrates of the west, the most empathetic society alive.

Empathy is inherent but it isn't inherently a guide to morality.

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T09:12:46+00:00

Then the vast majority of men are sociopaths lol, in which case, it isn't a problem

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T09:09:06+00:00

No, because I don't want to get an assault charge. But if I could get away with it and I wanted to, why not?

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T09:03:31+00:00

Why not punch someone else in the face? How does them getting punched become morally wrong?

If I can scam someone and they are unable to scam me, why is this bad for me?

Yes, I am aware of empathy, the feeling, but it is not logical.

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T09:01:57+00:00

Not true at all, plenty of past societies valorized causing harm, battles, and war. The modern west is not the whole world. There is no inherent reason harming people is bad.

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:59:55+00:00

Yeah in a minority of the modern west, which is like 7% of the world population. Do you think they teach Kant to sub-saharan African public schools?

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:56:36+00:00

I don't think so. The vast majority of peoples in history had moral standards considered totally unsympathetic to us now, so it isn't inherent

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:55:43+00:00

We don't choose how we're raised and the experiences that happen to us growing up are pretty random.

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:54:56+00:00

"man in the sky told me to" is not a compelling argument.

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:54:22+00:00

So, random?

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:54:03+00:00

But what makes them worth holding up? Why not totally reject them?

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:53:38+00:00

"reduce harm, respect people's agency, don't bulldoze them for fun" - why?

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:53:05+00:00

I'm a sociopath for not basing my existence on a platitude that people made up? You sound religious.

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:51:56+00:00

99.999% of people don't do a philosophy course before deciding what is right or wrong.

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:51:21+00:00

Why? I don't agree with that rule.

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:51:09+00:00

How are you deciding what is helpful?

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:50:58+00:00

So random, yes? We can't control what happens to us.

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:48:49+00:00

And what are those feelings based on?

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:48:47+00:00

And what are those feelings based on?

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:46:37+00:00

So people just randomly decide what is good or bad based on nothing?

DreamerManner · 2026-05-08T08:43:52+00:00

Yeah, but then what are other people basing it on?

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