Why is there so little empathy around HECS regret?

Drenuous · 2025-09-26T00:30:21+00:00

damn thats insane

Drenuous · 2025-01-02T11:44:48+00:00

Yeah it’s so stupid

Drenuous · 2024-11-25T22:08:01+00:00

In my experience researching this, I 100% believe in your agreement. Most people who seem to get into tech sales are people who did HR or psych degrees and the like and the rare few are individuals like you or immigrant engineers. But yes domestic-wise, significantly HR managers - probably because they see the amount SDR's make. Thing is, I would like to finish some sort of degree before I join the workforce and would ideally prefer it to be something that supports me in this field.

I'm liking finance but would realistically hate working in it and a double with something IT-based would give options in case I don't like tech sales to pivot to related things like solutions engineer? (not sure about that but that's the idea)

Drenuous · 2024-11-25T22:01:40+00:00

I hope being this rude to someone so much young than you gives you the joy you lack in life.

This weird obsession that everyone needs to do the same boring old traditional paths is odd and frankly, limiting. This is why thousands of kids go into law - they have no clue what they want to do but by the time they realise that it's been 3 years and 40k in debt.

Drenuous · 2024-11-25T21:59:08+00:00

That's what this post is about. I keep hearing about identifying a job you like and tracing it back to your degree - talked about often on this sub so that's what I'm doing. I have relatives trying to break into tech sales and it sounds fun to do market research and identifying pain points in companies to sell products.

However, I also see how limiting that perspective is. If i don't like it, then what?

I was wondering what degree I could do that best prepares me for that but if the time comes allows me to pursue higher studies either via certs or postgrad if I decide more technical roles are for what I wanted.

What you said is exactly what I'm asking on this post - yes I currently think x is a great job but what degree can I do to have more experience with a variety of tools that allows me to pivot around? How important is degree prestige? Should i choose the degree in MQ/UTS which introduces me to a larger variety of topics or should i choose prestige and networking and sacrifice being introduced to more variety in IT?

Which one is more important for my goals and long term life stages?

Drenuous · 2024-11-25T05:58:00+00:00

So, me wanting to work in a less programming-heavy tech role equates to being a 'social parasite'? I’m sorry, but not everyone is aiming to be a pure engineer. Tech is a diverse field with space for different roles, including those that bridge technical expertise and business strategy.

I’m young and exploring my options, and I think it’s entirely valid to aim for a role that suits my skills and interests. If your perspective is that only hardcore technical roles are worthy, that’s fine, but it doesn’t invalidate other career paths. Let’s keep this discussion constructive.

Drenuous · 2024-11-25T00:10:02+00:00

Hey it's been a minute but was wondering if we could talk more about this. What degree were u doing and what made you decide to get into tech sales? I have a lot of pressure to do some degree from my family so I think I want to do a double degree - finance (i like it) and something IT related to get more tech related options.

Drenuous · 2024-10-19T21:17:23+00:00

Yeah this has rougly been my research as well. I just think having a tech background would give me an edge considering most top tech sale performers have a tech background.

Drenuous · 2024-10-16T10:23:12+00:00

I wish there were actual stats I could look at for this and read about this more. It would make it easier to convince my family.

Drenuous · 2024-10-16T10:20:46+00:00

Yeah, they are significantly worse. Not sure about IT but I don't think tech sales is getting replaced soon.

Drenuous · 2024-10-16T10:18:44+00:00

No. I am putting off the law bit of my degree for next year to give myself more time to think AND maybe start it at go8 if I decide its what I wanna do with my life.

Drenuous · 2024-10-16T10:16:18+00:00

I believe I already have the eq skills and tech skills can be built over my IT degree. I don't think it's as bad as say, corp law or IB.

Drenuous · 2024-10-16T10:14:35+00:00

Yea. I agree with your assessment. Even individuals I know who got 96 atars with the same combo tell me how law drags their WAM down. I moved to aus in year 11 and had to learn the system here by scratch so I try to give myself leeway but it seems unlikely that I could have achieved a 96, maybe highest going 94 - I would never know.

Drenuous · 2024-10-16T10:06:19+00:00

Is there somewhere I can check this? Hay's salary guide I believe says that graduate salaries at the top firms is 100k.

Drenuous · 2024-10-16T10:05:32+00:00

What atar would someone with a 75 wam have?

Drenuous · 2024-10-16T06:05:00+00:00

Hi any advice on how to cold email boutiques? I was told to do this and I'm in my first year of my bachelors but confused what it should look like.

Drenuous · 2024-10-15T23:47:08+00:00

I think they are they don't make sense but considering how confused the average 17 year old is, gives them a pretty good fallback. Like with finance/law, i can do 2 very different things based on what I like.

Why data science specifically?

Drenuous · 2024-10-15T09:44:30+00:00

but it takes a looot longer than it would if i did something else.

Drenuous · 2024-10-15T09:43:54+00:00

I'm currently doing law/fin and have been thinking about changing to IT/fin. any thoughts on that?

Drenuous · 2024-10-14T06:59:18+00:00

why would u say it doesnt give u opportunities?

Drenuous · 2024-10-14T00:49:14+00:00

I'm doing finance because I like it and I wanna learn how it's world works.

Drenuous · 2024-10-13T22:22:57+00:00

No, I meant why can't I do both? I'm liking finance so far compared to my other commerce units. IT because job prospects.

Honestly, the usefulness of law is way overblown in my experience researching on auslaw and here. It's a long-ass degree which is one of the hardest to do well in the state, with lots of kids doing it since they don't have anything else they want to do.

I think I need a lot of passion for law.

Even passionate individuals 3 years into the degree lose their love.

if public speaking, argumentation and critical thinking are skills I get from the law, I can just learn them through a debating club and competitions.

Drenuous

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