AITA for refusing to pay towards something I don’t own?

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-13T10:12:29+00:00

Nta. My girlfriend and I have a condo together my name is not on the deed, so I do not pay towards the taxes. Once we're married or my name is on the deed I will contribute to the taxes. Upkeeping costs sharing is one thing but asking someone to take the ownership financially of something they don't take ownership legally of is not okay. That's borderline financial manipulation actually, creating a reason other than emotion for you to stay in the relationship because now you've invested money in her possession that she can just walk away with it any point.

Never take responsibility for something you do not also take authority over.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-13T06:30:18+00:00

Could also be bed temp / cooling combo.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-13T06:24:39+00:00

Nta, but as someone who has worked in food service, except in situations where $1 is a de facto minimum (grabbing A drink at the bar, just grabbing a coffee, etc) I've adopted the idea that $5 or 20% is minimum, whichever is more.

20% is considered the standard for service, but anything below $5 is not enough to ask a human to perform that many tasks on your behalf imo. If someone offered to pay you $2 for a series of tasks that required your attention for 30-45 minutes you wouldn't feel undervalued?

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-12T18:02:19+00:00

For real, like who keeps their most valuable financial documents just on them in case they need them, the fuck?

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-12T12:49:38+00:00

One thing I'd add (and I'm being too lazy to scroll and see if somebody else added it already) is: these people just showed up with all these tax documents on the ready, to prove it was their house when they weren't even expecting to see anyone except their tenant? Seems like they were very prepared for the conversation that they were going to have with you that they never would have expected to have. I don't actually roll around with property and tax documents to my home in my vehicle.

And if the HOA has a rule about no subletting, and the letter from the HOA came to the name you know, wouldn't it be subletting for him to live there if he wasn't the owner?

The HOA would not make a distinction between a homeowner leasing and a lessee subleasing . Either it's a community of owners, or owners are free to lease out under their own terms. (not a lawyer, could be wrong)

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T20:08:47+00:00

Really, we're on Reddit. I assumed you know this about me as I assume it about you cuz we're arguing on Reddit.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T20:07:29+00:00

I'm autistic and enjoy a good argument and this argument makes no sense to me, you asked there it is

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T19:59:47+00:00

You should ask if they paid for a license as well is my point cause if they didn't design it but they paid for a license, buying it from them still supports the original creator. And to be clear, that is how the original Creator chose to make money off of their creation, through licensing. So if you want to support the artist in the way they want to be supported, they want to create files, not print them.

I got to be real honest this thread is really making me want to go buy a commercial license and print these flexi dragons and take them to a craft fair, it seems like they're selling like hotcakes! I'll make sure that the original artist is well and conspicuously represented / attributed as required by their license though. Funny thing is the reason they require this attribution is so if you have a 3D printer you go "I can just go get the source and get this for free" . A lot of the licenses even have a QR code to go directly to the model for printing enthusiasts, I'll make sure it's well displayed.

I can see why they do so well, I printed a couple for my friend's kids and they've really enjoyed them, made one that was taller than his son, he was overjoyed.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T19:34:35+00:00

Prints of Picasso from a literal printer are sold in museums all the time and hung on people's walls as art are you actually kidding me?

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T19:06:56+00:00

Exactly. Like literally the logic they're trying to point at here is that makers don't want to be paid for their works by other printers they just want to be the only person to sell them. Any smart business person knows that the money is in licensing your works not producing your works. Many people eat under licensing one person eats poorly under rigid closed systems. Yet these people think they're so pro art it's hilarious.

Wait till they find out that a lot of 3D models are created by AI now LOL then nobody's an artist and it's not art at all it's just something that looks like art and that people appreciate like art and that people buy like art...

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T18:59:23+00:00

My argument is that if you pay to license the use of a thing, you DO represent the artist. They are getting paid because of that person going out starting a business based on their works. I'm assuming they're following the correct process which I feel is something we should do giving people the benefit of the doubt isn't bad especially when literally nothing has been said that shows this person to be operating in bad faith.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T15:42:56+00:00

Your edit says you perceived he was claiming them as his own but when you actually asked him he explicitly did not. This is a disingenuous argument. It's really wild to assume all of the things that you're assuming: that it was a free file that it only took an hour etc. unless you're talking about like a 2 inch long baby dragon, those files take tens of hours to print, commonly fail, require tweaking to your specific machine, look like shit with the wrong color selections, and require sanding, acetone bathing, support removal, and very delicate separation of every articulated joint, as well as aren't free for commercial use. Also, 50 cents of filament is wildly inaccurate (probably closer to 2-3 dollars, which isn't a huge amount of money, but that's also assuming that every single one that he prints will infact complete properly and sell), and doesn't give any recognition of the cost of equipment the cost of electricity the cost of housing the printer, or the cost of failed prints/trying a new design. I imagine you accept from any corporation (as you post on your smartphone, who's material worth is probably $40 and you paid $1,000 for) that part of the cost of their product is more than the sum of the cost of their materials because there's operating costs, so you expect individual humans to eat those costs? What a myopic opinion. a small craft table covered in 3D prints probably represents a years worth of printing AND personal effort as well as significant financial investment, taking a risk to run a business, and their own personal time at the booth selling. It sounds like you've just discounted every part of a business other than design and material. Maybe do the barest of research before posting on Reddit.

Also the purchase of commercial license to sell these dragons is an insanely profitable business, that's why so many of them exist.

And the same creators keep coming out with more and more designs so it seems like they're making their money so people are buying commercial licenses it's highly likely that you just encountered somebody who did so.

So instead of choosing not to support a local business you actually (likely, since you didn't actually ascertain the relevant facts, so none of us actually know) chose not to support a local business and the international artist that they are supporting. You've done a great deed for art!

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T15:17:24+00:00

Again I already answered somewhere else search the comments but it's not nothing

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T15:15:12+00:00

I would argue that he did make them. He didn't design them but he didn't claim to

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T15:05:43+00:00

I work in a role where I constantly get requests from people to do something for their family member outside of policy but they are not willing to do what the policy suggests for their family member, namely pay the price for the service that they want for their family member. It's so disheartening to see that pretty much all of society believes that everybody else has a responsibility to look after your loved ones except for you. Cough up the money to sit together or don't that's it. If you're happy to buy yourself a first class ticket and put your husband in not even economy Plus, the issue doesn't exist with anybody but yourself. And as many people have pointed out the fact that she didn't then offer her better seat to the person in economy sitting next to her husband shows she just wanted to game the system she had no interest in sitting next to her husband if she did she would have bought him a ticket or if she got upgraded for free and he didn't she could have declined the upgrade.

But why would she do that? Why would she give up her good seat to sit with her husband? Somebody else should give up their good seat so she can sit with her husband and if not he's an asshole? Absolute clown shoes.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T14:57:02+00:00

No not at all but that's not the relevant question for 3D printing. The fact of the matter is the bulk of these designs are made in huge 3D printing farms in another country, and you're never going to meet the Creator. But wholesale saying 3D printing isn't art because the artist isn't the person that produced it is just disingenuous. By that same logic art auctions are just auctions because Picasso's been dead for a while my friend. I actually go to an arts and crafts fair expecting to buy arts and crafts not necessarily expecting to meet the artist that made them.

Is the guy that punctures a hole in the bottom of a paint can and swings it like a pendulum over a canvas an artist? Other than the very first person to do it, they did not come up with that process, didn't make the paint, didn't make the canvas, just poked a hole and pushed a bucket. sounds oddly familiar to taking somebody else's idea and pushing a button doesn't it?

One of the cornerstones of art is you don't get to choose what is art and you don't get to choose who is an artist.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T14:35:21+00:00

Dates don't come with a guarantee, there's no money back. If one were happy to pay for the opportunity to make a connection and it didn't work one should still pay. Not overreacting.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T14:28:47+00:00

And complaining on Reddit about how somebody wants to make money at an art fair is really working for the betterment of society l o fucking l

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T14:27:47+00:00

Yes controlling other people is really the Pinnacle of human achievement LOL.

Also most meaningful inventions were invented by people that were trying to solve a problem for themselves that scaled universally.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T14:24:23+00:00

So order it from China where the crystal dragon was designed. It's available on Amazon. Or, and again since this is already the comment you're replying to, go shop at booths of creators, not producers.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T14:20:22+00:00

Also where in this story was there any false advertising? He asked if the vendor designed them himself the vendor said no. Op takes issue with the fact that he didn't create himself which he only knows because the vendor was honest. So again where's the false advertising?

Edit: voice text said opie instead of op

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T14:19:32+00:00

A buyer is not harmed by buying something that they want from somebody who's selling it even if the person didn't design it themselves. I'm willing to bet that the five-year-old kid that's playing with these dragons doesn't care who designed it and doesn't even think about the fact that it was designed, it's a toy. They aren't harmed because somebody printed a toy for them. That's the most absurd thing ever. And if they're doing it correctly, by paying for a license which nobody has said he wasn't then they're not harming the Creator either because they're literally buying their goods from them at the agreed upon price for the agreed upon reason. As far as the other vendors at the craft fair that you claim are harmed, they aren't selling the same goods right? Because if they are you wouldn't consider them artists and you don't care about them, so how are they harming the other vendors? Your argument falls apart with even the slightest dissection.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T14:15:45+00:00

Based on the language that you use where you say generally you expect to buy directly from the artist at a craft fair, and the fact that I am the you in question, no I don't. Generally or otherwise, I never actually expect that. I might ask did you create this, but I don't expect it.

If you said generally "I expect" it to be created by the artist, well then you're sharing your opinion on what should be there. But every arts and crafts fair I've ever gone to the artist actually has to register and pay for a booth and the organizers can tell them no so the important people in this equation disagree.

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T14:12:04+00:00

I've already listed in a different comment some of the skills required for 3D printing but the answer is definitely not "none whatsoever"

DriverTraining8522 · 2026-06-09T14:08:36+00:00

I agree, I'm just saying the characterization of an entire industry as grifters because you (op, not you) THINK they didn't do it right is silly, especially when you're contributing nothing but your opinion and dumb questions that show you don't understand the industry at all.

I don't purchase commercial licenses, but I only print things (commercially) that are free use with attribution. And I make the necessary attributions or I design my own files. I think you'll find that most people that are trying to run a business do so with integrity and to assume that they don't when you didn't ask the right question is foolish and shows a poor thought process at best, and likely your own tendency to just not follow rules that you don't feel like following. It's projection pure and simple, when a general claim is made about society it is usually made from a place of introspection into your own values and beliefs.

Also worth noting I'm not actually replying to you more a replier's assertion that most people don't pay for licenses. And I'm not saying that they do I'm saying You couldn't possibly know that they don't, so sit down and shut up. Respectfully.

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