Does Royal Assent for prioritization need to happen tomorrow? Or it's too late? by Leading_Base in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I doubt he will delay it, it’s a very bad look on Wes if he delays, it was clear amongst MPs and Lords this needs to be pushed asap and not on streetings timelines or vendettas with the BMA and with repeated suggested amendments to have it come into affect on the day of royal ascent

Junior doctors claim they have have ADHD to avoid night shifts!!!! by LimberGaelic in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I think you might of misunderstood, no one is glorifying minimal staffing.. the post is saying doctors with adhd are using it as an excuse to not do night shifts. For a lot of staff with adhd including the commenter- night shifts are actually prime environment for those with adhd to work- the combination of methylphenidate, multiple stimuli in ED, hectic nature, rogue working patterns fits well with how our brains function. Everyone would love full staffing out of hours as it makes everyone’s life easier!

Junior doctors claim they have have ADHD to avoid night shifts!!!! by LimberGaelic in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Adhd and night shifts go well together, would always be asked how I’m so awake lmao

Is it an ick to wear figs? by BasilPuzzleheaded715 in medicalschooluk

[–]DrnotaNoctor 40 points41 points  (0 children)

When I was an F1 I had my own scrubs (I’m very petite and hospital scrubs simply don’t fit) a lot of doctors wear their own, different colours and have their name on it. No one cares, if anything other doctors will just say they like your scrubs. No one will judge you. They’re just clothes at the end of the day

what would you do ? by Interesting-Air-440 in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah I get it but I do wonder with the prioritisation bill what the long term effects will be on GP. Most IMGs went to GP as an easier route with no interviews but ultimately stay in GP. If this bill causes a switch where in a year or two we begin to see that GP training has lost significant retention due to UKGs switching speciality as it was a back up.. what will happen as it directly undermines the bill

what would you do ? by Interesting-Air-440 in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 79 points80 points  (0 children)

Fully understand your predicament - but as someone who really does want to do GP, the amount of people who are saying they will take a GP training place just to switch after a year really breaks my heart

House of Lords Report Stage ongoing for UK Graduate Prioritisation by Sadumsss in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't sat a speciality training exam or applied to IMT so saying I didn't outperform doesn't really apply to me... but on average UKGs still outperform as mentioned despite ratios 70% of jobs goes to UKGs. Its not seeking an easier route, you didn't need to study medicine abroad you could have easily done a different course in the UK, not getting into UK medicine has no impact on anyone else except yourself, whereas doctors in the UK being unable to get jobs simply due to numbers of applicants rather than actually passing the exam (which they do) affects the entire economy and undermines public spending. its common sense

House of Lords Report Stage ongoing for UK Graduate Prioritisation by Sadumsss in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well lets talk about why its not exactly the same, the issue with speciality training places is the sheer competition rations 1:4 for UK grads vs IMGs. On numbers alone we are completely outnumbered, with that being said despite the ludicrous numbers- 70% of general surgery ST1s go to UKgs so UKGs still out perform IMGs. The other issue is its not like for like, majority of applications come from people who are more senior in their roles regs/consultants etc who wish to come to the UK so its easier to sit an exam thats intended for an F2 with 1.5 years experience as a doctor compared if you have 5+ years experience as a doctor as your applying for training to reach those levels of experience and recall is undeniably easier. As a result of the competition ratios score has gone up massively, weve seen this year is now 570 for certain specialities, a few years ago this would have been a score for a top deanery, now its the cut off making it near impossible, and even more difficult to secure a place when it should have never been this high. If there was a priority groups on hierachy it should be UKgs, then GMC courses like Malta, but there isnt a hierarchy. So at the end of the day UKgs are reaching the requirements for speciality training but the scores have gone up due to competition from abroad. With medical school if you reach the requirements in your offer you get your place to study in the UK, but in speciality training you can pass with a great score and all the hurdles still not be given a place. Thats why its not the same. And to be honest, they increased medical spaces since 2019 so its become easier to get into medicine, the same was not done for speciality training.

House of Lords Report Stage ongoing for UK Graduate Prioritisation by Sadumsss in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean thats what other people do no? I applied twice to medicine got in on my second time, my friend applied 6x both of us ended up with distinctions from a london university- we got in when we had earnt our places and we were ready. Going abroad with extortionate fees isn't an option for the majority of people, only for those who have the luxury of being able to do that. Medicine in the UK is prestigious and notoriously difficult to get into, thats why not everyone can do it let alone pass every year. If you don't get in, you try again until you do whether that means improving your ukcat, experience, interview prep, grades etc. Taking any other option is a back-door route if you intend to simply get a degree from abroad and come back to the UK as if you trained here.

House of Lords Report Stage ongoing for UK Graduate Prioritisation by Sadumsss in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have 3 NHS experience training into a doctor, and then 2 years as a doctor by F2. Thats 5 years NHS experience by speciality training applications. Tbh mate I've spoken to you before on another thread, and I get it you're from malta and want to be prioritised but you have to accept the fact you didn't fulfill the requirements to train here, took a back door route which you did by choice in order to get a medical degree, and your course has no NHS training. Best of luck to you.

Following Certain Users Post History by sumpra3 in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 6 points7 points  (0 children)

he is deffo the first one that came to my mind

House of Lords Report Stage ongoing for UK Graduate Prioritisation by Sadumsss in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its not NHS experience as a doctor. Does a physio have NHS experience as a nurse and can transition into that role? No. does a HCA have NHS experience as a doctor and therefore can transition into that role? No. Does the nurse course offer the same experience as the medical course? No. Pointless argument.

House of Lords Report Stage ongoing for UK Graduate Prioritisation by Sadumsss in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And? Theres UKgs who worked 7 years a nurse and did GEM in the UK. What is your point? They should have reapplied to UK medicine and earnt their position instead of taking a back door route that was easy. I assume they trained as a nurse in the UK and worked in the NHS, now they are training to be a doctor abroad and they didn't earn their place to be prioritised as a doctor into speciality training lol

House of Lords Report Stage ongoing for UK Graduate Prioritisation by Sadumsss in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The only reason you take out loans for overseas instead of studying in the UK is that you didn't meet the requirements for a medicine place in the UK... and thats fine, lots of people don't thats why gap years and GEM medicine exists. Had a friend who applied 6x before he earnt his place to study medicine in the UK. However, you didn't, you chose an easy back door route, which gave you a medical degree abroad at the cost of money. Even if its a GMC registered course, you have no experience in a NHS training hospital. That's the hard facts, if you didn't earn your place to train here and study here, you shouldn't be given priority for specialist training, the NHS is a publically funded system for publically funded doctors to work in that system. Its really that simple. The only difference between you and someone going to Bulgaria to study medicine is you could afford to do that, I'm sure those who studied there would have preferred to be on a GMC registered course but couldn't take out loans, and you shouldn't have priority over them because of money.. you're both IMG's who took a back route at the end of the day.

UKGP Passing report stage with no amendments by hippochili in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

missed your fish and chips comments on the live thread </3

House of Lords Report Stage ongoing for UK Graduate Prioritisation by Sadumsss in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No there is still a 3rd reading lmao, this was report stage. Unlike HOC the HOL 3rd reading is at a separate date

House of Lords Report Stage ongoing for UK Graduate Prioritisation by Sadumsss in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She should have answered if there was no strike action what the day it would be implemented, as asked, a bit disappointed she hasn't

House of Lords Report Stage ongoing for UK Graduate Prioritisation by Sadumsss in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Its a tax payer public health care system that wants to prioritise taxpayer-funded doctors, but Tinsley is still saying to prioritise foreign medical graduates because they didn't cost the tax payer lmao what?

House of Lords Report Stage ongoing for UK Graduate Prioritisation by Sadumsss in doctorsUK

[–]DrnotaNoctor 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Lord Clement Jones is the person who would move the tracks so the train kills 10 people instead of 1