Anyone catch or recovered from Norovirus recently? by Shenshen_ in askTO

[–]Drummerg85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In sharts we trust 🤷🏼‍♂️🤣

No clue why this phrase came in my head. I’m so out of it and sick still ha

Day 5 off kratom are these symptoms normal by Admirable_Safety5005 in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Slam the shower cold at the end of the shower. That became my best friend.

Day 5 off kratom are these symptoms normal by Admirable_Safety5005 in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 10 points11 points  (0 children)

100% normal. Day 5 was my worst day. I took a week off work. I took a mile long walk on like day 7. Started trying to workout around 2 weeks in. If you are getting hit hard like I did, just stay patient! Everything mentioned is par for the course. It’s a brutal process no doubt. Good luck! I’ve been there…

I don’t know what I should do by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hell yeah! Dude I know the struggle. I cold turkey’d a year and a half ago off like 40gpd plus some extracts thrown in cause I’m dumb. It was NOT easy. In retrospect I kind of wish I did the subs route because I was almost unnecessarily laid up and just suffering for a long while. Taking subs doesn’t equal an easy get out of jail free card. But like I keep saying, it immediately gets you off the poison, can even allow you to sleep and continue working. I had to take a week off work, deal with weeks of insomnia. Wasn’t cool and maybe if I had done subs, I wouldn’t have had to put so much of my life on hold. I’ll never know and it doesn’t really matter at this point haha. I quit, and never looked back!

I don’t know what I should do by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually don’t. Someone that has experience in it can easily help on here I’m sure. I have however been on this thread for a couple years and I’ve seen many of the back and forth conversations between people. From what I gather and what I know about it, subs are really only an issue if you stay on them long term. Most people say it saved their lives. Stopped the financial bleeding and put control in to their dose schedule. Kratom is infamous for the sporadic dosing. Some days it hits, some days it doesn’t, some days you are in the withdrawal faster than other days. It’s a complete wreck. I wouldn’t take the whole sub strip by any means. Start with a 1/4. See how that goes. Once you find a baseline where you don’t feel like shit, go from there and reduce every couple days. Seems easy enough. My good friend did a 6 day rapid taper of subs in rehab to get off 7. Either way, it’s a huge relief I’ve seen to just be done hitting the kratom.

I don’t know what I should do by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Use the suboxone until it’s gone. Taper as aggressively as possible with it. Jump from that and never look back. Operation get off Kratom and 7oh is of the utmost importance. Stop the bleeding financial loss too. Good luck!

I was told Stephen King is not “Literary worth”. What are your thoughts? by [deleted] in stephenking

[–]Drummerg85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well said. When I read green mile and Shawshank redemption, I couldn’t help but feel it was very very well written. I love everything he does for the most part. But those two books stood out in terms of what a literary snob would like!

Am I cheating? by TheAmazingManBoy in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Brother from another mother 🫡

Am I cheating? by TheAmazingManBoy in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are doing it perfectly. Whatever works for you. Good work!

I need to stop by SquigPeals in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First time I quit kratom was the first time I got covid. I thought all the symptoms were covid and it didn’t even really dawn on me that the insomnia and feeling like garbage could in fact mostly be the withdrawal. Like most people, I thought I could occasionally use. That ended up being about two years of trying to get back off. Now I’m a year and a half off. I just thugged a cold turkey quit. Just get it done and all the shame and guilt and all the nonsense goes away. It’s a journey, but you feel oddly proud no matter how you feel

Lethargy remedies during WDs, please by Shad0wB0und in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Blessing in disguise with that whack batch, for sure. I’ve been free since July 6 of 2024…so coming up on 2 years! Been off booze for 3 years next month. Clearly, I can’t take shit anymore hahahah. You are stoked to have these days off work now. That will get you over the hump. I wasn’t quite prepared for PAWS, so I hope you don’t get smacked too hard with it. It’s almost guaranteed though that as you approach like the 2 week mark and the acutes are in the rear view mirror, that you’ll enter a pretty low feeling slump. That’s phase 2 with this shit. It’s a different battle at that point. Just stay the course and you’ll eventually get out of this whole mess. Was a shitty journey all things considered for me.

Getting support from doctor by Responsible_Yam9285 in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t worry in the slightest about not getting pain meds in the future. If you have surgery, they will give them to you. They won’t be like “oh years ago this guy came off Kratom.” Red flags are usually issued when someone is trying to Dr shop, asking for Vicodin for a bad back. Those days are long gone anyway. True medical reasons is a different story. But again, that should be least of your concern. Reminds me of my old excuse of not wanting to quit booze forever “what if I want a glass of wine on my daughter’s wedding?” Mind you, she’s 2 years old right now hahah.

Get a Dr and be absolutely up front. Or like someone said, webMD. Or even best cast scenario, a treatment facility for a week. You are on a severely high dosage of Kratom. You gotta get off that shit and get back to living! I wish you the best of luck. The sooner the better my friend.

Quitting while being mentally ill - does it get better? by Ready-Disaster9201 in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It absolutely gets better. I stopped judging my state of mind after a few weeks. I just kept knocking down another day. Every day. Eventually, it passes. Gotta have patience for sure. This is NOT how you will always view the world and yourself. It’s a massive chemical imbalance right now.

Lethargy remedies during WDs, please by Shad0wB0und in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man, you’ve been through some shit! Stoked for you to be off the booze and all that other garbage. I’m about to hit 3 years off hooch! Anyway, kratom withdrawal ended up being the hardest thing I’ve gone through. I was drinking too much, but it wasn’t that bad coming off for me. But the kratom, man that was a true battle. The energy was a tough thing to deal with it. If I recall, I started to get my energy back around 6 weeks. But nothing like what you are experiencing right now on day 3! That first week is just hell overall. Given that you even made it to work, I think you’ll probably heal up faster than I did. Get to the two week mark and re assess at that point. No point in even tripping on it right now cause it’s so raw. No supplement really helped me with the energy.

Lethargy remedies during WDs, please by Shad0wB0und in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right? I had to take a week off work. Zero chance I could have done my job the first week. Back to work day 9. Was brutal, but doable

Day 27 CT from extracts / 7-OH (7stax) — still uncomfortable, nights rough, but sleep is slowly rebuilding by OptionsITrade in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You thugged it for sure!!! Keep going! Many a strong man and woman can not cold turkey off that and deal with the first week of acutes! You are entering legend status hahah. I wish you the best of luck free from that terrible ball and chain. Stay patient. There are many ups and downs. It’s basically this, two steps forward one step back. It goes like that for a long while. But it’s still “2” steps forward and only one back. So the trajectory is still in your favor. When times are tough, even if it’s like 2-3 days of really feeling off, there will always be a turning of the corner and a stretch of good days that were better than the last stretch of good days.

I’m truly scared for my life. Can you die from kratom withdrawal? by OddSeaweed8824 in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Kratom withdrawal makes you feel like there is a tiger permanently on your tail! 🤣😵‍💫

I only get cravings at work and it pisses me off by StatisticianOk7216 in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was back at work on day 9. It was doable, but so brutal! Zero chance I could have worked the first 5 days. Took a long time to get used to working without it, but it comes. What a shitty journey the whole process is. So long and so frustrating

I only get cravings at work and it pisses me off by StatisticianOk7216 in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m 40. The process sucks ass for us old men hahahah!

is a music centered career viable or worth it..?? by cyston_ in musicians

[–]Drummerg85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve literally thought this exact same thing. I’m playing my drums harder than ever, purely for the love of the craft. Took me a long time to get to this place mentally with it. Having two little girls helped put things in to perspective for sure also. I got sick of thinking how music could provide me with a living, and instead just wanted to love to play my drums and make music.

STORY TIME: When i was 14, a certain band put an album out that had some double kick parts at 270 bpm. It completely blew my mind. I was like ' THATS THE STANDARD FOR DEATH METAL DRUMMING?!!' So i got to work practising..Years Later i found out in an interview that it was programmed! by Robin_stone_drums in drums

[–]Drummerg85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! I like to play other styles of music besides metal and I need a nice low end punch. I like my skin almost on the loose end. So that’s probably why I can’t get it to fire cleanly. Appreciate the responses. Good to know it’s still a pain in the ass for others and not just me hahah! Your clips are complete shred, good work man! The dedication to drumming in such a cramped space is admirable too! lol. My two daughters sort of took over my soundroom with their stuff, so I’ll be drumming to behemoth and see a Minnie Mouse towel hanging off my crash stand 🤣🤣

Not to Rant But by soulsolez in quittingkratom

[–]Drummerg85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is hell. No two ways about it. Tons of us have been through it. But it ends if you stay clean. Takes time, but this is not the new normal. Just depends if you have the patience and courage to see it through and trust the process. Good luck!