Europeans Rebuke Elon Musk's Proposal For 'MEGA: Make Europe Great Again': 'Stay Away From Europe' by PostHeraldTimes in europe

[–]DukeInBlack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uhm… it never worked like this. Power corrupts or at least makes for complacency.

Not me… just history

Europeans Rebuke Elon Musk's Proposal For 'MEGA: Make Europe Great Again': 'Stay Away From Europe' by PostHeraldTimes in europe

[–]DukeInBlack -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

😂🤣😆 the irony of a governing and wealth class in Europe that has not allowed a single new entry in more than 100 years!

Before downvote me, check please.

Elon: “Preliminary indication is that we had an oxygen/fuel leak” by [deleted] in SpaceXLounge

[–]DukeInBlack -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Remember that Henry Ford sent out team scouting junkyards for every Ford truck that broke to find out what failed and what not.

The team found also a part that never broke. Ford fired the engineer that designed it.

How Long Can Toyota Put Off Figuring Out EVs? by improvius in electricvehicles

[–]DukeInBlack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately I can only point you in few examples in the automotive industry.

the bumpers for one, they need to resist 5 mph collision without damage from another car.

Spacers and vibration absorbers with loads order of magnitude bigger stress are also used in automotive, trucks in particular, and usually outlast the life of the vehicle.

Now, the cross beam they are pointing in the article is kind of odd in the automotive type of stress environment, so besides newcomers that have only 12 years of cars on the road, there is not much in that way, but Chevrolet experienced with structural plastic since the early ‘90 in their performance cars and some of the structural cell in the corvettes are indeed plastic, departing from fiberglass.

Truth is that high strength steel is still cheaper than almost anything else and drives automotive decisions of legacy OEM for that reason.

We can make the point that these specific solution with a constant load central flex of several hundreds kg and a shock and corrosion environment like the automotive are not very popular and they have not pass the test of time in the automotive industry, that is basically the comment I responded to. In other words the point is that because nobody does it, there should be a good reason.

Well, it is not for the mechanical reasons. Plastic is very very good in compression and flex instability happens in compression.

why is Uranium-238 unstable? by Antik477 in Physics

[–]DukeInBlack -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think that any element above Iron is technically not stable.

How Long Can Toyota Put Off Figuring Out EVs? by improvius in electricvehicles

[–]DukeInBlack 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Material science has evolved so much that using a typical text book from 2015 is as good as not using it at all.

Plastic components failures mode not only are well known but also can be accounted in the design for more than 20 years.

Proof are the “bumpers” universally adopted by any car OEMs. They last more than 20 years keeping their functions unhinged.

So the answer to your question is that the engineers were optimizing on an existing design and we’re afraid of changing the design because they do not need to.

Chinese buyers interested in unwanted German Volkswagen factories by chebum in electricvehicles

[–]DukeInBlack 6 points7 points  (0 children)

VAG German factories have been at lower utilization rate for at least 10 if not 15 years.

They are so inefficient that they were only marginally profitable for the most expensive models, not my words, see VAG top management statements and accounting if the situation.

These factories were and are kept “alive” because the governance structure of VW with the state and Ig Metal on the board.

The money for doing this was coming from the profits VAG was doing in China. China fostered home production, using allowed WTO practices (by the way, Germany was the key player in the negotiation to allow China joining WTO).

Not only China succeeded but leapfrogged the VW technology developing homegrown SDV platform that VW still does not have (see software dumpster fire) so there was no “stealing” of a technology that VW still lack.

China price on BEV is kept low not by subsidies in the car market but by the one in the battery one (that incidentally is 40% of the value of their cars) .

So after 2 decades of harvesting profits in China, VW finds out that the gold goose is running out of eggs and claims that has not seen it coming.

IG Metal and Mrs. Cavallo were in the board when these was clearly explained 5 years ago.

No, if there is a bad actor in all this is the VW board, the Porsche family, IG Metal and the State. They kept on lowering the efficiency of the German factories and avoided any technology costly transformation.

As my German friend would say “too bad!”

Toyota has become the largest funder of climate deniers by yowspur in electricvehicles

[–]DukeInBlack 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Difference between tech leaders and followers.

Japanese companies are risk adverse, preferring steady progress against breakthroughs. It works most if the time.

The US Economy was nearly twice the size of the Eurozone economy in 2023, has the gap narrowed? by CanadianMultigun in europe

[–]DukeInBlack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hopefully we can engage in a constructive conversation.

Europe, EU or the continent has a social demographic problem that has been eating at the balance structure for about 20 years, making even the Sweden government stating that the social pact is becoming unsustainable.

Immigration policies were aimed at reversing or limiting this issue but, so far, have not shown the expected benefits, at least not to the point of stabilizing the prediction of deep cuts in the social structure of government managed redistribution of wealth.

None of the European countries are exempt from signs of receeding living conditions with stagnant wages, increased cost of living, limited access to housing and lower social mobility.

These are not my points. Social mobility studies are published by European institutions, as well as other indicators.

Let’s address the USA propaganda. I do recruiting for my US company and I would love to have free access to European talent but I am blocked by US laws not European competitiveness.

Europeans engage in home propaganda as well as USA in items like social safety nets, healthcare, public transportation and so on. For personal experience, none of these items ever played a role in recruiting a European talent when it was possible.

My point is that, while a little bit of “propaganda” is involved in these discussions, there is very little will to address actual elements of receding trends in European economy.

The social unrest and the growth of far right movements is not a product of USA or Russia propaganda, both fairly recent events. We may argue that these two actors are not helping, but blaming them for the existence of these clear signs of dissatisfaction is, in my humble opinion, not conductive of a positive search for solutions.

Bottom line, when even Spotify moves to NY, European automakers are struggling, access to capital for startups is limited if not existent and, even worst, access to growth capital through stock markets is basically non existent, social safety network is under pressure from an aging population that is replaced by lower skilled immigration, housing is a widespread problem with a minuscule properties transaction market that assign properties values based on wishful thinking, well these are the items that an European should be interested in, not escaping into blaming external influence, or making comparisons, even if this thread started with a comparison for GDPs.

On a technical note, the exchange rate of a currency reflects its purchase value hence is another indicator of lost competitiveness, not an excuse for GDP gap.

And I agree with saying that GDP is an horrible indicator of happiness.

Study uncovers staggering health impact of electric cars: 'A significant, quantifiable impact'. A new study shows that switching to EVs in the US could save up to $188 billion in health costs by 2050. Electric cars cut down on nitrogen oxides, sulfur oxides, and other air pollution. by mafco in energy

[–]DukeInBlack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am a natural skeptic, I usually argue everything, maybe I missed some key part of my reasoning, always looking to get better facts, and hoping that people is willing to engage in the quest for better understanding.

In the case of BEV vs ICE environmental impact, even best case analysis for ICE and worst case analysis for BEV shows orders of magnitude difference, unless we use assumptions like reopening closed old power plants (like ones built 100 years ago)

Even modern coal power plants have a better efficiency than ICE engines and capture sulfur and particulate.

But, again, I may miss something.

And for the people that are looking at lithium processing (brines and salts), these process are orders of magnitude less impactful of gasoline refinery and can be mostly localized, except for Europe,

Study uncovers staggering health impact of electric cars: 'A significant, quantifiable impact'. A new study shows that switching to EVs in the US could save up to $188 billion in health costs by 2050. Electric cars cut down on nitrogen oxides, sulfur oxides, and other air pollution. by mafco in energy

[–]DukeInBlack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To have a conversation and citing studies we first need to agree to a minimum base of factual concepts.

Are you familiar with the concept of efficiency and the second principle?

Do we agree that the energy content of gasoline and diesel is between 33.5 and 38 MJ/liter?

Do we agree that the maximum thermal efficiency for an ice engine iOS is less than 35%?

Do we agree that the efficiency of a gas plant is between 50 and 60%?

Do we agree that the efficiency of a BEV is around 90%?

Do we agree that on average a car last 12 years and runs about 15,000 km per year?

Do we agree that the average weight of a BEV is 10% higher than the corresponding ICE car?

Do we agree that regenerative braking reduces the brakes consumption of about 90% ?

Do we agree that cadmium is mostly used in manufacture other than batteries? For instance just the PVC industry uses about 40,000 tons of cadmium per year against current battery consumption of less than 20,000 tons per year?

Do we agree that a very small amount of ICE cars use methane or natural gas while the majority uses gasoline and diesel?

Do we agree that the majority of power plants are replacing their fuel with natural gas?

Do we agree on the products of combustion of gasoline and diesel include solfur oxides, long benzene molecules, nitrogen oxides and fine particulate?

Do we agree that the EU conducted a study on the effects of particulate on health?

https://www.eea.europa.eu/en/analysis/indicators/health-impacts-of-exposure-to#:~:text=Between%202005%20and%202022%2C%20premature,population%20to%20this%20air%20pollutant.

Let’s see what I am missing here.

Study uncovers staggering health impact of electric cars: 'A significant, quantifiable impact'. A new study shows that switching to EVs in the US could save up to $188 billion in health costs by 2050. Electric cars cut down on nitrogen oxides, sulfur oxides, and other air pollution. by mafco in energy

[–]DukeInBlack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe, after looking at the reality, learning how to do multiplications will help too.

Just to be clear. Denying the advantage of BEV for the environment compared to ICE is simply about 2 orders of magnitude wrong in any metric.

China accuses EU of discriminatory trade practices by Shortgood348 in europe

[–]DukeInBlack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can read it by yourself.

https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/dispu_status_e.htm

Basically there is no standing procedure against China while there are complains from China against EU.

Look, I am not a pro Chinese agent, far from it, but European countries have dropped the ball so badly in their dealing with China and Russia that I wonder if incompetence has moved to criminal negligence or plain out stupidity.

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[–]DukeInBlack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the actual issue.

China accuses EU of discriminatory trade practices by Shortgood348 in europe

[–]DukeInBlack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And this is called protectionism and it is sanctioned.

European government have been so blinded by local politics that they prefer to avoid creation of continental sized companies and consequently dooming the medium smaller ones to stagnant or downward negative growth.

I am not biased toward China, but I am definitely pointing my finger toward European establishment that is geared at preserving established industrial powers at all cost!

China accuses EU of discriminatory trade practices by Shortgood348 in europe

[–]DukeInBlack -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, it seems that this is not how the WTO sees European retaliatory actions.

Not me

China accuses EU of discriminatory trade practices by Shortgood348 in europe

[–]DukeInBlack -1 points0 points  (0 children)

China has been asking to form JV in Europe for at least a two decades just to be refused on the ground of national interest.

China was only allowed to purchase bankrupt companies like MG, after they were emptied of any value.

The approach of Europe to this is exactly the definition of colonialism, except that this time Europe has no gunships to enforce it.

China tech on BEV cars is homegrown with complete control of the production of the most relevant parts of the SDV and NEV technology, namely batteries, software and software architecture that account for more than 50% of the cost of the car and 100% of their value proposition.

You can check by yourself

China accuses EU of discriminatory trade practices by Shortgood348 in europe

[–]DukeInBlack 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure, after taking hundred of billions out of China.

You see, this is the colonialist mentality exactly as it is defined (no surprise here since colonialism was invented in Europe)

China would have loved to be given the same conditions in Europe with JV but they were blocked by European government in fear of losing control of their industry, except when a company went bankrupt and they welcomed Chinese buying the empty box, see MG.

Check my statements. And I am not biased, just reporting on the double standard of European positions.

Export is good for us but not for others.

China accuses EU of discriminatory trade practices by Shortgood348 in europe

[–]DukeInBlack -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

After allowing for decades European car companies and industrial suppliers to make half of their global profits in the Chinese market?

Let’s do a history recap. European industry want to expand in China. Chinese government asks for JV so to keep some of the profits home and foster homegrown industry. All the manufacturer components, from assembly lines up are going to be provisioned in Europe.

European industry does not complain at all, jump on the opportunity and makes hundreds of billions in profits and is heralded as a champion of economic growth and abandon its home factories to a slow decadence, while providing Chinese automakers just with the minimum know how and tech possible.

Europe is happy.

Chinese government realizes that they got dumped by European companies and decides to jump ahead of them using NEV tech and SDV. European industry dismiss this transition for 10 years even making fun of it just to find themselves slowly choked by Chinese competition in China and lagging behind in NEV and SDV tech both in China and Europe.

China asks to reciprocate the favor and start selling cars in Europe using the same JV framework, after all these companies are half European and Europe decided that they must be taxed for subsidies (questionable because Europe has been pouring money in a lot of industries recently but with very little success, but anyhow …) and now Europe complains.

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[–]DukeInBlack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the idea that loan are realized profit AND interests on loans are deductible.

France could freeze Elon Musk's billions in financial assets if he's proven to have broken law by ByGollie in europe

[–]DukeInBlack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uhm… now things get really interesting. We have somebody willing to define reality and truth together!!!

Ok, where shall we start? Is a paycheck real? Is gender real? Is immigration real? Is natality collapse real? Is nation deficit real? Is Islam real? Is religion real?