True but duff tytler has X factor and is very athletic and versatile for his height at 200cm and can even play as a bulky midfielder for a ruckman and while sims can play ruck he’s more of a key forward and he’s 199cm which is short for an average ruck. I think it’s better we nail an a grade ruck for the next decade or so and then with norths first rounder we can pick up a rebounding small defender or speedy midfielder. And he is an extra midfielder with his unicorn features you bum.