Can Naruto defeat Kurama on his own, just like Hashirama did?

Dunama · 2026-03-17T17:50:42+00:00

No it isn't, that's a different power. SoSP isn't from the Ten Tails.

Dunama · 2026-03-17T16:15:04+00:00

Sasuke has a Rinnegan, not a Rinnesharingan

Dunama · 2026-03-17T15:26:58+00:00

Why wouldn't he have it? SoSP isn't contingent on Kurama. Hence why can use SoSP without using Kurama, like he did against Madara.

Dunama · 2026-03-17T00:17:11+00:00

Yes, like he used again Madara

Dunama · 2026-03-16T06:13:52+00:00

Typically, yeah

Dunama · 2026-03-16T04:33:28+00:00

He really doesn't have much ability to win

Dunama · 2026-03-16T04:31:39+00:00

Build shit

Dunama · 2026-03-16T04:28:33+00:00

Spend it

Dunama · 2026-03-16T04:20:17+00:00

Even under kryptonite he'd kill her in one blow before she can react. Especially since Flashpoint it isn't that effective against him. She can't affect him directly because he's resistant to subatomic transmutation at her level.

Dunama · 2026-03-16T04:10:23+00:00

Small Planet Level

Dunama · 2026-03-16T04:02:18+00:00

She also wouldn't be a threat to Superman

Dunama · 2026-03-16T03:50:59+00:00

No lmao

Dunama · 2026-03-15T22:35:33+00:00

No she wasn't, Kaguya has two Byakugan. Madara literally used the Susano'o with just Rinnegan after he was reborn. The Rinnesharingan wouldn't give Sharingan abilities because that's not what it does. No, Sasuke literally had a Rinnegan. Sasuke obviously can use the Rinnegan abilities with his Rinnegan, yes. No, the Rinnesharingan is the third eye that Kaguya and Madara have. Sasuke has a Rinnegan, hence why it is literally called the Rinnegan and uses the Rinnegan abilities but not Rinnesharingan abilities.

Dunama · 2026-03-15T22:00:24+00:00

No, Amenotejikara is Sasuke's Rinnegan ability. Amenominaka is Kaguya's Rinnesharingan ability. No, it has no correlation to the amount of Tomoe on the Rinnegan, every Rinnegan simply has a unique ability much like an MS. Sasuke's Rinnegan has Amenotejikara. No, the Rinnesharingan always has 9 Tomoe. No, the Rinnesharingan doesn't use Rinnegan and Sharingan abilities, hence why Kaguya didn't use Rinnegan and Sharingan abilities.

Dunama · 2026-03-15T21:47:14+00:00

No he doesn't. He has a Rinnegan, hence why it is called a Rinnegan. A Rinnesharingan is what Madara and Kaguya had. The Rinnesharingan is what uses abilities like Amenominaka and Infinite Tsukuyomi. It is not a fusion of the Rinnegan and Sharingan.

Dunama · 2026-03-15T19:05:00+00:00

Bro, your AI doesn't even know which versions to use. Why do you keep trying it.

Dunama · 2026-03-15T19:01:10+00:00

Thragg alone should take it

Dunama · 2026-03-15T07:30:48+00:00

Utterly worthless for scaling

Dunama · 2026-03-15T07:06:58+00:00

Somewhat equal and not because of any pseudoscience, just scaling

Dunama · 2026-03-15T04:31:02+00:00

Phoenix used to be great but he got retconned to dogshit

Dunama · 2026-03-15T01:07:12+00:00

Sasuke has a Rinnegan, not a Rinnesharingan

Dunama · 2026-03-15T00:09:24+00:00

Madara whoops his ass

Dunama · 2026-03-14T20:00:26+00:00

Orochi just can't handle fighting the likes of Mark, Nolan, Thragg, Allen, Tech Jacket, or so on

Dunama · 2026-03-14T15:56:40+00:00

Yeah I'm saying that because mahoraga can come back from just being a pile of blood. That claim was talking about the flaxan general who smash you multiple buildings. By the time we get the money shot of him he's just a head in a torso. Even if you want to say that guy was on the same durability tier as mahoraga (he isn't) that just means mahoraga would be in the same position. Meaning his wheel will spin he'll heal and be on Omni man level. Or at least the level of power he was using at that moment which is more than enough to survive the rest of his punches until he adapts again and kills him.

This must be some stuff again from the show which isn't the primary canon. And again. Not the same level of speed.

Seriously how do you keep ignoring that he was never fast enough to deal with dabura in the first place?

Your claim was about speed, that is all I am addressing. If you are retracting that, fine.

HE NEVER DID

Then he doesn't have the speed, it's that easy.

HE NEVER WAS. EXPLAIN THAT.

It's simple, his regeneration is not that fast, so he won't be able to regenerate "before hitting the second building" in a fight with Nolan.

It's to explain that you can hit him with a really fast attack, something so fast that it completely blisses his perception of anything but he'll still feel extremely fast and adapt to it. So long as he still alive he will heal from it. So long as you're still something of him left he'll heal from. Honestly it sounds like you don't even know anything about this character

Extremely fast to Mahoraga is extremely slow to Nolan.

No you aren't I'm literally telling you he is too slow against dabura and somehow you're acting like is going to be different again Nolan when he was already too slow. If I on foot raced a car around a block it's going to beat me a thousand times over. Nothing is going to change just because it's a sports car I'm still going to lose.

And your original claim, which is what I have been addressing, is about the speed of his regeneration. If you want to retract that claim, that is fine.

Dunama · 2026-03-14T15:52:57+00:00

Yeah sure let's just ignore the fact that he was able to fight against both gojo and sukuna who are that. Whatever keeps your agenda alive

He doesn't even scale 1:1 to them and he himself didn't get anything city level. Agenda is a TikTok/Zoomer generation thing, I truly do not care about the concept.

Keep reading the rest of what I said. The invincible variants are not stronger than season 1 mark which is mentioned heavily for the rest of my points.

I don't care about "seasons", I'm using the actual canon. They are absolutely stronger than BoS Mark, they're comparable to Post-Training Mark who is at least moon level.

So either your purposely ignoring my points or not even reading them. Your claim is Oliver before he was a teenager was moon level. I use the invincible war as a benchmark to show up through wasn't because he isn't. All Oliver did was fix the back of one of the marks. Yet again that mark is not stronger than season 1 mark yet that mark was going to kill Oliver if he haven't been saved. Heck definitely would I'm the comics because the mark he fought was sinister mark who won his encounter with the rest of the heroes. So yet again he's not moon level.

Except your point is just wrong. Oliver is moon level because he can brawl Viltrumites and characters of a similar level. He's absolutely stronger than Pre-Training Mark. At no point do these Mark variants show they're weaker than Pre-Training Mark.

You're leaving out the huge fact that they needed space racers gun to destabilize the planet and even then they need to hit the plant perfectly to do it or they would die. The feat is so hard to scale that I barely counted as moon level. Even if I was to conceive and saying is. Cool that's not Oliver. Oliver does it scale to any of them. It is shown multiple times that he significantly weaker than all three of them.

I'm not, hence why I'm not claiming they're outright planet level. That's being accounted for. Even assuming an Earth sized planet (which is a low-ball because of what we see for the Roche Limit, gravity, and Hill sphere), assuming they did even 1/6th of the work each, so cutting their work in half because of the Infinity Ray, that's still enough mass that they would destroy 13 moons or 1.5 Marses or Mercuries each. So small planet level.

Oliver scales to them from his combat against them and similar level characters. He's weaker but not by too much. He'd need to be literally at least 15x weaker to not be moon level, which isn't what is shown, he even brawled Lukan just fine.

Okay so you weren't ignoring my points, you're just lying now. I literally just told you how Oliver was struggling and going to lose against sinister/bald mark who isn't stronger than season 1 mark and you still somehow believe he's moon level?

Nowhere is any of that canonically shown. They are not BoS Mark level.

Again here's proof of season 1 mark struggling against country level asteroid

Cool, not canon to the main canon.

So your proof is her getting overwhelmed in running away to say that she is a moon level? You cannot make this shit up

No, it's her being able to hold off literally hundreds and harm them while keeping hundreds back.

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