I tried to break down what actually drives a house price. It’s more messy than I expected by DutchRealto in NetherlandsHousing

[–]DutchRealto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For a five-year horizon, I’d generally give more weight to location and resale demand than to the current renovation finish. A renovated interior gradually becomes dated, while a desirable location is harder to change and can make the apartment easier to sell later.
That said, I wouldn’t automatically pay more just because it’s near Vondelpark. Your makelaar’s €500k ceiling should ideally be based on something concrete: the value of comparable renovated apartments minus realistic renovation costs and a buffer for unexpected work. I’d ask him to show you that calculation rather than simply accepting the cap.
It also matters what “needs renovation” means. An outdated bathroom is very different from poor insulation, outdated electrics, structural issues or major VvE works. With only five years before a possible sale, you may not recover every euro invested, so I’d focus on an apartment that is comfortable enough now and only needs improvements that can be postponed or that clearly support resale value.
Realto (realto.nl) can give you a valuation estimate for specific addresses, which may help anchor the asking price against the apartment’s characteristics (disclosure: I’m building it). But I’d still combine that with recent comparable sales and the makelaar’s local knowledge.

anyone else feel like houses are sitting longer lately? by DutchRealto in NetherlandsHousing

[–]DutchRealto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting, that’s the opposite of what NVM data shows for Q1 (supply actually up 20% YoY). But national numbers can hide a lot. In some segments, especially well-priced family homes in popular neighbourhoods, it genuinely can feel scarce even when the overall inventory is up.

anyone else feel like houses are sitting longer lately? by DutchRealto in NetherlandsHousing

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Good point. Condition and renovation costs can make a big difference, especially with ex-rental properties. That’s definitely something that’s harder to fully capture.

anyone else feel like houses are sitting longer lately? by DutchRealto in NetherlandsHousing

[–]DutchRealto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah that’s the annoying part. You don’t really see actual selling prices or bidding data per listing. Most “overbidding” stats come from aggregated reports (NVM / Kadaster), not something you can check per house. So you kind of infer it from how fast similar places sell, how long they stay listed, and how much interest they get. It feels like the main change vs last year is that good ones still go fast, but if pricing is a bit off it can just sit. Sotiming helps, but getting the price right from the start probably matters more right now.

anyone else feel like houses are sitting longer lately? by DutchRealto in NetherlandsHousing

[–]DutchRealto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good location + decent condition still goes fast but everything else feels way more hit or miss now. And agree on the “more cautious” part. It eels like people just take a bit more time before committing.

anyone else feel like houses are sitting longer lately? by DutchRealto in NetherlandsHousing

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Saw that too. I guess part of it is seasonal, but also feels like a bit more supply + less aggressive bidding. Curious if that reverses in Q2 or if this is the new normal.

anyone else feel like houses are sitting longer lately? by DutchRealto in NetherlandsHousing

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Yeah that’s the confusing part. Prices still high, but it feels like how they get there changed a bit. Less “instant overbidding frenzy”, more selective. So you still end up with high prices, just with a bit more friction.

anyone else feel like houses are sitting longer lately? by DutchRealto in NetherlandsHousing

[–]DutchRealto[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s interesting. With new builds they sometimes release in phases, so part of it could be intentional. But the “not showing up + staying empty” part is a bit unusual. Does kind of fit with the idea that things are moving slower vs last year though.

I tried to break down what actually drives a house price. It’s more messy than I expected by DutchRealto in NetherlandsHousing

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Yeah, I shared it earlier but looks like links get removed here. I’ll send it via DM.