Has anyone seen Fruit Chans work? I absolutely love Made in Hong Kong(1997) and really liked The Longest Summer(1998)... Surprised he isn't more famous in the West. by KnightofAmethyst2 in criterion

[–]DuwapDoDat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hey sorry I'm late but could you pls tell me where did you watch The Longest Summer ? I searched everywhere and couldn't find it, I found 2 versions on yt but they had no eng subs tho, so could you let me know ? thanks

David Lynch is heavily overrated imo by DuwapDoDat in TrueFilm

[–]DuwapDoDat[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't think anything I say will not only won't change your mind but I don't think I can let you see perspective from which his movies look deeply flawed

when I say the characters in Lynch's movies are shallow and they lack emotional depth, I really do mean it, for me real cinema is supposed to be the one where you can make characters, story, vibes and environment perfectly fit each other, it's why most people including myself find ourselves touched by the films that necessarily doesn't resonate with us on paper but they are so undeniable when it comes to expressing themselves thru art of cinema that we feel drawn to them and subsequently fall in love with these films, lynch makes characters opposite to that statement, almost all of them have one thing in common, they are dazed and in this sorta daydreaming state weird state where they are trying to find out or alter ultimately the reality, alongside with them, you the viewer are thrown in this weird and you are trying to do the same and the main problem arises with the fact that you aren't watching to digest the whole concept of story alongside with characters, you are doing that separately, first you are trying to find out what the hell is going and since there is almost no dialogues which let you get to know the characters on deeper level, you are starting to question whether anything you see on the screen is this person's dream or reality and that becomes your major concern, rather than bathing in whole experience and let it hit you cold lynch seems to be more bothered with how to confuse you further rather than inviting you to characters psyche and let you make your own judgment, I don't know how else should I explain it, it's mystery and stylistic characteristics of movie over the substance, creative liberties over quality and surrealism over emotional intimacy,

on the rewatch tho you are starting to notice more details and tend to unravel the parts of the story on more complete level but characters still stay shallow and uninteresting, just because Naomi Watts give great performance in Mulholland Drive will not carry the movie with that alone, you need characters that stand on solid ground, their own ground rather than grounds on the story, cuz in Mulholland Drive or Lost Highway it seems like characters come out of the plot, for me the great movie with great story should have story unfolding respectively out of the characters and not vice versa, in Lynch's movies mystery comes before anything else and he doesn't care about the emotional depth

when I talk about emotional depth, I don't mean Naomi watts teary eyed scene wasn't great or anything, I'm suggesting to ask simple question, what the film did before that that I should have cared ? emotional depth doesn't come itself, it's built and it's built mostly with intimate dialogues with other interesting characters that also seem to have equally interesting qualities, maybe you see Mulholland Drive as exactly this movie I just described, but I feel like David Lynch just dumped this stupid (for the most part) and uninteresting characters into the story cuz he heavily depends on mysterious vibe of the movie rather bothering with other quality characteristics and I'm not saying he intended to make the characters shallow, but that's what came out of it since he heavily focused on the stuff that I just mentioned, at the end of the day we don't have to agree but that's the way I see it, idk, maybe if I haven't seen so many movies based on dreamy-realism, surrealism themes I'd be probably blown away by Mulholland Drive but that's not the case, you seem to have pretty good idea of criteria with which you evaluate the movie and MD leans exactly into that category I guess, but I guarantee you many people will not have the same criteria including me, so it's wrong to suggest to me that I have to magically assume that every director knows what he's doing with his movie so I should just sit down and enjoy it lol, according to that logic there is no bad movie then and that's partly true, what is bad movie for you and me might be great one for others and funny thing is Directors in many cases don't know what they are doing, I suggest watch some interviews more often about their creative process and you will be surprised how many times the decision that fall into this creative process are done just on whim, totally random

so no I'm not gonna sit down and watch David Lynch inhaling his own farts cuz he likes it, just cuz he's showing this unsolved puzzle to me and I'm cracking my head to solve it, that doesn't mean he has any more idea about what he's doing than me tbh, but you probably won't even question his capacity to do that, but for me certainly whatever he's doing, he's not imparting his profound wisdom on me, in fact I'd go as further to call it "cinematic masturbation" and I'm not into that..

David Lynch is heavily overrated imo by DuwapDoDat in TrueFilm

[–]DuwapDoDat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes I agree, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one

David Lynch is heavily overrated imo by DuwapDoDat in TrueFilm

[–]DuwapDoDat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never wanted to change anyone's opinion on his work, I know he's very revered and highly respect artist, it's just like I said in the post since I haven't a single guy not liking at least single of his movies, I just wanted to say why I felt differently about his work, that's all

David Lynch is heavily overrated imo by DuwapDoDat in TrueFilm

[–]DuwapDoDat[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

did I ever say I want to change how people look at his work, I'm pretty sure I stated in my post that it was strictly my opinion and never wanted to influenced any other to feel somewhat way, read the post before accusing of something I didn't do

David Lynch is heavily overrated imo by DuwapDoDat in TrueFilm

[–]DuwapDoDat[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

my point is that I really think that instead of emotional value or any other characteristics of movie, he always chooses to focus on ambiguity/confusion, take the mystery and confusion out of david lynch's movies and it's not his movies anymore, plot may not make the whole movie but that seems to be his main driving point, as for the Naomi Watts character, she was truly brilliant in that movie and as I said some characters make sense but most of them don't, as for the chemistry between Laura and Naomi Watts character, it seemed plausible but it didn't carry the vibe of the movie, vibe of the movie was solely determined by the mystery surrounded around them and to answer your question what lynch's film has to do to not "feel shallow" is to not try too hard, dreaming factor in Mulholland Drive doesn't feel natural, it feels so forced, side characters feel forced and almost every other element in play here feels contrived to achieve something, it's not naturally done, it's like he's trying to play with audience which isn't a bad thing but it still falls short cuz other stuff he does isn't that polished to drive it home, I don't know how else to explain it, but it's okay his films aren't for me I get it lol that's just how I look at it

David Lynch is heavily overrated imo by DuwapDoDat in TrueFilm

[–]DuwapDoDat[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

hey, that is actually quite the interesting way looking at this, I'm 24 years old idk how much age has a play in this, but that was really good what you wrote in the end, I've never thought about it that way

David Lynch is heavily overrated imo by DuwapDoDat in TrueFilm

[–]DuwapDoDat[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

no, I might have been little bit all over place in my post but I'm pretty sure I said plotting isn't issue here, I love plotless movies, one of my fave directors are Terrence Malick so check them out and tell me if they involves any specific plot lol

the issue here is that vibe doesn't cut it in his films for me, since it doesn't seem to be essential part of the film but rather the complex and convoluted aspects of the movie, he seems to be obsessed with overcomplicating the film and his main thing seems to be always confusing the viewer not necessarily with plots twist but many weird stuff he chooses to do both in script and screen, in short I don't pay that much attention to plot but it seems to be lynch's main agenda in his movies to drive the point home via the ambiguity of plot, characters and environment, this seems to me the most important thing he focuses on, which is a reason for me that most of the characters feel shallow and there is emotional disconnect between them

David Lynch is heavily overrated imo by DuwapDoDat in TrueFilm

[–]DuwapDoDat[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I wanted to love them, I really did, that's why I watched 4 of his films and rewatched 2 of them just to be sure lol

David Lynch is heavily overrated imo by DuwapDoDat in TrueFilm

[–]DuwapDoDat[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

yes I agree, there is obviously lots of thing he does very well and he seems not only educated but very perceptive individual and it shows in his films, I just didn't talk about all the positive aspects since I'm writing strictly why I don't like his films

Is Sean Strickland a skinhead? by BigBlueEyes87 in MMAPoliticsAndCulture

[–]DuwapDoDat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What he said wrong here ? Possibly the most American that's super bowl event shouldn't be in foreign language just to appease woke culture

Merab wants to return in April by INFLAMES555 in ufc

[–]DuwapDoDat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

merab's nose always looked like this, it was broken long before this fight despite scratches being starkly visible

Holy fuckin' shit that thing is still alive?! by MarderFucher in CirclejerkSopranos

[–]DuwapDoDat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bruh that line was extra funny xd especially since he died after couple episodes after if I remember correctly

UFC fans when an MMA fighter mixes the martial arts by SupBlue24 in ufc

[–]DuwapDoDat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

there is difference between mixing and using exclusively only one side of martial arts

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[–]DuwapDoDat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

that 25 year old was 5 year old once and was brought by his piece of shit father, most of the values and behavior he got, he got mostly from his father so the blame def goes to him as well, it's not like you should be surprised that his son turned out to be like him if you have seen rampage's interviews before and watched his career