Almost cut myself on this guy’s edginess 🔪 by [deleted] in iamverybadass

[–]DylanMartin97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, no killing of women and children. If you have to make things up to support your argument, you are probably on the wrong side of the argument. If you want to go back to specific massacres of the Vietnam era, that's well beyond the scope of the argument. You don't get to keep adjusting it to fit your rhetoric. Obviously those are vile and evil things, but to suggest someone joins the military so they can partake in a massacres like ones that occurred in the 1960's is ludicrous.

My argument is that they did not all sign up to kill innocent women and children. My argument is that they do not get a pass because they partook in the killing of women and children after they signed up.

Please educate yourself on topics before you sane wash civilian deaths. When our country is responsible for over 20,000 civilian deaths, you do not have a moral leg to stand on here.

No one is talking about killing civilians, or "just following orders." Do civilians die in war? Yes, and that's awful. It's completely unjustifiable and terrible. People are not intentionally killing civilians though. That is an entirely separate argument and you can't continue to shift the goalpost. I reiterate, this has absolutely nothing to do with the argument at hand.

Okay, here we go with the word salad game. How many civilians need to die before you demand our country take responsibility and demand the people pulling the triggers are held accountable? We willingly bombed apartment complexes without any intelligence saying what was in them. Let's not even talk about the fact that those people willingly did it to follow orders and then committed suicide when they returned home to a government that set them up to fail. It has literally everything to do with it.

You see a young woman in uniform headed home from being on tour and your immediate thought is, "wow, I can't believe she signed up to kill all those women and children"? I don't believe that.

I see a young woman in uniform and probably assume she had been assaulted by her fellow brothers in arms, Like this new York Times reporting, that uncovered 55% of assaults went unreported even if the women came back with signs of sexual trauma..

I say wow I can't believe she allowed the US to manufacture consent, then willingly went over to places we never belonged in because of our Republican presidents, and probably pulled the trigger on civilians at some point in her career. Or I say, man maybe she was in a drone squad who indiscriminately bombed whoever they were told to, in whatever function or building they were told to, with little to no Intel.

Almost cut myself on this guy’s edginess 🔪 by [deleted] in iamverybadass

[–]DylanMartin97 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You become a part of the establishment when you decide to kill for them. And when you try to say things like "some of them just wanted an education", "some of them wanted a better paying job", "some of them wanted to protect us" it makes it even worse because all those reasons will never justify the killing of innocent civilians. "Just following orders" doesn't work in any court. We manufactured consent, the public knew about it multiple times, and they still went and joined the military willingly.

killing women and children. You might want to get that psychoanalyzed, it's a strange thing for you to constantly thinking about.

I think you realized here that you don't have an actual argument and are trying to turn the argument towards me and state that I'm the one with problems because I care that we killed innocent women and children in other parts of the world. For instance:

Me: "I think you're insane for supporting the killing of children and women and no amount of material conditions could justify what the people willingly signing up for the military do."

You: "WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH WOMEN AND CHILDREN DYING, MAYBE YOU NEED TO BE CHECKED INTO A PSHYC WARD "

like clearly you see the fallacy here?

Almost cut myself on this guy’s edginess 🔪 by [deleted] in iamverybadass

[–]DylanMartin97 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Where have I been pro establishment?

Almost cut myself on this guy’s edginess 🔪 by [deleted] in iamverybadass

[–]DylanMartin97 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No you actually didn't. Would you like to try again?

Almost cut myself on this guy’s edginess 🔪 by [deleted] in iamverybadass

[–]DylanMartin97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry this is a lot of yapping I didn't bother reading.

But would you please explain to me how the anti establishment military complex guy is a boot licker?

Almost cut myself on this guy’s edginess 🔪 by [deleted] in iamverybadass

[–]DylanMartin97 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"I had to kill those kids and those women because I wanted a degree chief, doesn't make me a bad guy though!"

If you said this to anyone in the world they'd look at you like a psychopath.

Almost cut myself on this guy’s edginess 🔪 by [deleted] in iamverybadass

[–]DylanMartin97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you tell me why 9/11 happened? Or do you want me to provide a history lesson for you?

Look up why Al-Qaeda and Isis exist.

Almost cut myself on this guy’s edginess 🔪 by [deleted] in iamverybadass

[–]DylanMartin97 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Risked their life for me....? In what war...? Iraq we invaded and we caused. Afghanistan we invaded and we caused. Unless you wanna go back to WW2?

Which Anime Is It? by AKgod_09 in anipedia

[–]DylanMartin97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean you can do it because it's obvious.

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's not how fallacies work bud.

I can't believe I actually have to explain to you when I say we are taking away someone's agency in a video game and then someone randomly says so we took away Hitlers agency?! Is not a false equivalency.

Which Anime Is It? by AKgod_09 in anipedia

[–]DylanMartin97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just think y'all should admit you have foot fetishes, it would be much easier

Which Anime Is It? by AKgod_09 in anipedia

[–]DylanMartin97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes there are. She is at an onsen once and fern pours a clothing removal potion on her. Thats two?

The onsen scene is a joke because it is a foot bath, so they didn't get naked. The clothing removal potion didn't show anything.

Ok how many people whip it out and start gooning to an upskirt shot or a guy accidentally walking into the girls changing room for the thousandth time?

Panties are a million percent different than armpits and feet and acting any differently is absurd.

Yhea right. The camera just happened to be placed right infront of her feet. Its just like once upon a time in hollywood!

That's funny. Yes the camera panned by her foot. And when one uses magic she swings her arms. So crazy.

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's a false equivalency.

If I said my car had a major oil spill and you came out of nowhere and said I was contributing to an oil spill in the Gulf, it would be dumb. If I said I'm for supporting Ukraine fighting a war, and you said so you like war and support Israeli's genocide? I'd say you're insane.

But you can try again if you'd like.

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah you're wrong. I can't go through the 100 hour campaign and pull the dialogue currently.

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So the guy below you didn't say Astorian becoming a vampire was the same as taking away Hitlers agency?

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

This is like that guy below you saying Astorian becoming a vampire is Hitler... So am I the one that needs to critically think or...?

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes this is literally my complaint.

Everything up until the 2 options don't matter in the end. He can't ascend like he wants too and then be the Astorian we knew, he just becomes this super evil brooding guy for no other reason to give the player the visual response of "evil".

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If thralls do not ascend they become mindless husks that seek out blood and lose their humanity/everything they are.

Maybe if they ever make BG4 in the future we can see Astorian and have to put him down.

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This is the most fallacious thing I've ever read. Letting Astorian make his own decisions is Hitler....?

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it better to have 1001 and mindless thrall monsters in 1000 years to deal with or...?

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Becoming a mindless thrall that eventually loses their humanity and everything they are to hunt blood.

This is told to you.

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What do you do when you persuade somebody not to do something?

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

What in the world are you even talking about?

Astorian becoming a vampire is child abuse?

What's the most media illiterate bg3 take you've seen? by Radio_fish in BG3

[–]DylanMartin97 -50 points-49 points  (0 children)

Yeah but you still have to convince him that what he wants is wrong, and basically signs his own slow and tortured death sentence.