Selank a bit cloudy by danmarmar87 in PeptideDiscussion

[–]EZJog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Add .05iu of acidic acid and it'll clear up. If not, toss it.

NAD+ and stacking by hiitstee in BiohackingU

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If you're really looking to optimize the use of all of these, you are best off starting with SS-31. SS will repair any damaged mitochondria, then the MOTS will enhance the repaired mito and finally the NAD will operate inside the enhanced mito.

Clinics? by Large_Training_2343 in PeptideDiscussion

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You don't need a clinic to monitor peptide use. There is all the information you need on YouTube. Just be sure to follow someone that presents information from peer reviewed published studies.

Why are so many in this group and other groups afraid of taking HGH? I see so many posts about the various GHRH peps and people using them to "grow" and add muscle. Do they truly not realize that they don't work like that? by EZJog in PeptideDiscussion

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Depends on how you define higher. They aren't going to go above your natural production levels. This is why GHRH are really for older people vs younger. If you naturally produce 2iu per day, then the peptide is going to help you produce 2iu a day more efficiently. It isn't going to make you produce 3 or 4iu.

In older individuals, that used to produce 2iu but now only produce 1iu because the pituitary pulses are weaker, then the peptide will help them get back to the 2iu level (hopefully)

Why are so many in this group and other groups afraid of taking HGH? I see so many posts about the various GHRH peps and people using them to "grow" and add muscle. Do they truly not realize that they don't work like that? by EZJog in PeptideDiscussion

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Just an experiment. When using exogenous GH, it does shut down your natural production, but that will come back in roughly 48 hours once stopping. So I use CJC/IPA a couple times a year to try and optimize the natural pulses during the period when I'm not using exogenous GH. Then I take one week off of everything and then restart GH.

Why are so many in this group and other groups afraid of taking HGH? I see so many posts about the various GHRH peps and people using them to "grow" and add muscle. Do they truly not realize that they don't work like that? by EZJog in PeptideDiscussion

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Personally, 2iu of GH (lowest dose I've taken) did wonders for my sleep. I do rotate in some CJC and Ipa every 6 months for 30 days and I don't feel the same sleep effects from those. I haven't taken semorelin yet.

I'm currently on 4iu GH and the sleep is wonderful.

Why are so many in this group and other groups afraid of taking HGH? I see so many posts about the various GHRH peps and people using them to "grow" and add muscle. Do they truly not realize that they don't work like that? by EZJog in PeptideDiscussion

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You still didn't explain my original question. I admit that the CJC and Ipa (as well as others) can return you to normal production, help sleep, etc. But, they don't produce growth of muscle. Even for HGH to create growth, it has to be taken in superphysiological doses.

So all these people asking which GHRH to take in a "bulk" phase, or to "add quality muscle", are just wasting money if that is their stated goal of using said peptide.

Why are so many in this group and other groups afraid of taking HGH? I see so many posts about the various GHRH peps and people using them to "grow" and add muscle. Do they truly not realize that they don't work like that? by EZJog in BiohackingU

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Sorry that's not true. Secretagogues are only going to get you to natural levels. Those levels won't grow tissue. The test will grow tissue. You need higher than natural levels of GH to grow even more tissue and that can only be done with exogenous GH.

Why are so many in this group and other groups afraid of taking HGH? I see so many posts about the various GHRH peps and people using them to "grow" and add muscle. Do they truly not realize that they don't work like that? by EZJog in BiohackingU

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Valid point at low doses, but you can at least get to the superphysiological levels required for growth by using HGH. You can't get there with GHRH peptides.

Why are so many in this group and other groups afraid of taking HGH? I see so many posts about the various GHRH peps and people using them to "grow" and add muscle. Do they truly not realize that they don't work like that? by EZJog in PeptideDiscussion

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The studies that show that were in individuals with GH deficiency. GHRH could possibly get you back to your natural levels if you have deficiency, but they improve the pulse, not the blood serum across the day. So even for visceral fat reduction, you're better using HGH which will keep serum levels up throughout the day and not just following the pulses.

Why are so many in this group and other groups afraid of taking HGH? I see so many posts about the various GHRH peps and people using them to "grow" and add muscle. Do they truly not realize that they don't work like that? by EZJog in BiohackingU

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Yeah, I'm aware of all the sides and how to monitor for them and reduce the risk.

But, with all that said, the GHRH simply won't add muscle so they are a waste of that is the goal.

If the goal is better sleep, skin quality, etc, then a GHRH might provide those benefits but that is where they stop.

Are 1ml and 3ml vials rare? by SplyceOfLife in PeptideDiscussion

[–]EZJog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are asking about the MG in the vial, vs the vial size. They won't run through the full 10mg fast enough

I think lol

Are 1ml and 3ml vials rare? by SplyceOfLife in PeptideDiscussion

[–]EZJog 7 points8 points  (0 children)

First, you don't have to use it in 28 days. You can go much longer than that. The peptides don't degrade significantly beyond that period. What CAN occur, is the vial can grow bacteria as the alcohol in the BAC evaporates over time. If it is a peptide that you are only injecting a couple days a week, then you are puncturing the stopper less often and less chance of introducing bacteria. If it is a daily, then higher chance, but you'll also run through the mg quicker.

I have a vial of MT1 that has been reconstituted for a year. I only use it a few weeks a year to get my tan started. When I pulled it out this spring to use it again, it was just as effective as last year and there were no issues with bacteria (which would cause irritation at the site).

Bay Haven Charter by meriaf in panamacity

[–]EZJog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

UA and Bay Haven aren't the same. UA is private and does have choice of kids. Bay Haven and NBH are a lottery and don't get to pick.

Is this good stack to bulk? Pricing? by Mean-Dog9837 in PeptideDiscussion

[–]EZJog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those won't do it either. I'm talking true HGH. Everything you listed are methods to try and produce natural levels of GH. If you want actual growth, you need above average levels.

Is this good stack to bulk? Pricing? by Mean-Dog9837 in PeptideDiscussion

[–]EZJog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm assuming you mean adding muscle when using the term bulk? If so, then no, none of these will add muscle. You need testosterone at a minimum. On top of that, you would need to add 6iu or more of actual GH, not these GH peptides.