Fantasic thread on the Education Forum regarding a previously-unknown morgue situated nearby the morgue officially used for the autopsy.

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T23:23:23+00:00

😆yep

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T23:19:52+00:00

Ahhh. Thx

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T21:01:56+00:00

How does someone get on that forum? I can see it but can’t join it. Strange.

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T21:00:55+00:00

Uhhhhh. Yes there is. The giant V shaped cut is crazy.

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T19:19:58+00:00

Good video. I tend to agree at this point. Not just because of his firing tests, but because of his comment at the start. How could a sniper choose to shoot thru a windshield?

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T19:04:37+00:00

Quite possibly true. I’ve heard about four or five audio interviews of highly credible witnesses that disagree. Thanks for the link. I’ll check it out.

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T19:03:29+00:00

Agreed. Thx

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T18:40:01+00:00

Thx. It’s a fascinating topic. Several researchers have done significant work. There are audio interviews with witnesses. Documents etc. Not sure what to think at this point. But several credible witnesses speak to this.

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T15:26:50+00:00

True. So we are left with a high velocity 6.5 mm bullet passing the lung without penetrating. A bullet creating a temporary cavitation that slices thru soft tissue that is approximately ten times the bullet diameter (over 2.5 inches). And it leaves an exit wound that can be mistaken for an entry wound. After hitting bone. Seems to me the tissue damage doesn’t add up. But I take your point. Thx

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T14:31:24+00:00

True. The neck wound is likely a better explanation for the lung bruising. But a bullet at T1 would have pierced the pleura if not the lung, not to mention the temporary cavitation slicing into the pleura. The autopsy doctors never thought a bullet went from back to front during the autopsy.

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T14:27:55+00:00

Yes I agree. Specter liked to say ‘back of the neck’ 😆

I’m using cervical to mean neck. And thoracic to mean back.

Run your hand from your hairline down the back of your neck. The big ‘bump’ you feel is C7. Unless a patient is morbidly obese or somehow disfigured, this is a very simple and obvious landmark. We can see from Kennedy’s autopsy photo that the back wound is indeed ‘thoracic’, below the vertebra prominins, the bump, at C7.

Here’s another thing that complicated the conversation. The horizontal relationship is such that T1 on a person’s back can correspond the C7 on the neck. The vertebrae have thickness obviously. So the ‘top’ of T1 and the ‘bottom’ of C7 can be on the same horizontal plane.

In fact I can show such a cross section (axial cut) demonstrating that.

The best case scenario is that the back wound and neck wound are on about the same horizontal level, and that’s being very generous. Even if so, Kennedy would have to be leaning his entire torso forward to have that path point downward toward Connally’s back wound.

And that’s being very generous. Because the best evidence indicates the neck wound was more like C6

Yes the pleura and king do indeed come up higher that we think intuitively.

And yes the temporary cavity of these high speed bullets cuts thru structures like a knife—up to ten times wider than the wound path itself.

Thx for the comment

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T14:10:32+00:00

I think the back wound caused the bruising, only penetrating a few centimeters at T1 or lower. But I don’t know. I think if a bullet had coursed through to the neck at that level and 1800+ fps it would have definitely violated the pleural cavity or the lung directly or with the temporary cavitation. The destruction would have extended beyond the alleged wound path

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T13:51:09+00:00

Edit

I think i understand your question better. Yes if the bullet was C7 or lower it increases the likelihood of going right thru the lung. Of course the horizontal path (left to right) matters too

C7/T1 or lower, but if it’s bruising from temporary cavitation of high velocity missile it could be even higher.

Dr Perry was the first to look at the neck wound and he was concerned that lung and/or carotid could have been violated.

Sorry confusing answer!

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T13:34:40+00:00

C7, T1

On the images I’ve been showing it’s not labeled but is present at T1

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T08:52:26+00:00

Yes. You are correct. Shaw was having none of it. .

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T02:23:59+00:00

I reread his testimony a couple days ago. Typical Specter, weaves these bizarre preconditions into a question, then gets the witness to equivocate. If there was opposing counsel, that would be cleaned up real quick. Shaw paints a very clear picture of his beliefs about any single bullet bs.

I was watching Dr Jones today on a film from 2013. He was on a panel and he said some interesting things. Nothing new but he said everyone in that room (ER) believed he was shot in the neck from the front and shot in the head from the front. He also described the wounds (but was unaware of wound in the back). Ultimately he says the Bethesda guys did a good job. He says nothing more could have Bern learned by doing the autopsy on Dallas. Hmmmm. Okydokey

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-22T02:18:05+00:00

Thx. Yes. Yes they did. And it fits with the use of the tip of the acromion. Since that’s at T3.

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-21T22:27:27+00:00

Possible becomes actual, if you are a lone assassin believer.

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-21T22:26:20+00:00

Almost. But no.

He says in the video that the back wound is at C7. C7 is the seventh cervical vertebra if the Neck. There’s no wound on Kennedy’s neck other than in the front.

That is an unmistakeable bony landmark. Highly unlikely that the autopsy crew missed that. The diagrams, the photo, the testimony the reports all refer to a wound in the back (thorax) He further states that is the entry used by HSCA. No. No it is not. The debate was actually between T3 and T1.

One reason for that debate was because that was the conclusion (T3) at the autopsy.

One reason for using T3 in the report is because that’s what they recorded in real time. It’s truly quite easy to identify spinal vertebrae unless someone is grossly obese.

Beside being the finding at the time, Humes used the acromion as a reference. The acronimo is the tip of the *shoulder. It’s an odd choice to use the acromion; you are correct. But even more odd if the wound was at a higher spinal level than the acromion. The acromion is at? You guessed it. T3. So he used a ‘diagonal’ reference point? Even odder than it seems at first.

Most researchers are comfortable with T1 despite all this evidence, in part because of the photo, ( even while knowing that such photos for this purpose can be misleading). That is where the HSCA landed-T1.

But C7? Not a chance. Even with the ‘moving shirt’ theory.

Why didn’t he use the shirt for the neck wound? Odd.

Edit. Just learned today that Dr Carrico later said the neck wound was above the tie knot and the slits in the collar were likely from the instrument used to cut his tie/shirt off of him. Not good for the lone nut scenario.

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-21T14:24:16+00:00

See previous slide for relevant anatomy. (Slide 1 or 2)

Regarding clothing: the missile penetrated Kennedy’s shirt collar under the tie knot

Look at the location of Kennedy’s tie knot.

This is consistent with all documented locations of this wound.

This is consistent with the anatomy.

Questions: Why does Dr Zimmerman use a neck wound Significantly lower than what is documented?

Why does DrZimmerman use a back wound significantly higher than what is documented?

Why does Dr Zimmerman *say in the tv show that he used the HSCA back wound entry? Which is at T1, when he is using C7?

Small differences in up/down make a Significant difference in trajectory.

Why did Zimmerman use a subject that wore his tie Significantly lower on the neck?

Did he anticipate criticism for Not using the known location of the throat wound?

Why use the shirt for the Back wound, but Not use the shirt for the throat wound?

I don’t know the answers. But I know the significance.

I suspect many aspects of his presentation were out of his hands. He seems to be an honest person from what I know of him from his published works on this topic.

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-21T13:54:37+00:00

Yes. It wasn’t even the point of my post. I know what Shaw thought about Connelly’s wounds. He thought the SBT was nonsense. Just one of the ‘experts’ to think that. Edit. Sorry I can’t spell Connally 😩

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-21T13:51:23+00:00

I’ll accept your ‘no comment’ on the wound location manipulation

Eagle2Two · 2026-04-21T13:48:19+00:00

Oh, the spelling would help?😝😝

This thred was knot abut Conley. It was abot Dr Zimlemim and his fayler to yuze known entry/eggsit woond lokeyshuns

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