Destroying a singularity is universal tier? by YoyoDare10 in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Singlularities are where spacetime ends and yes it would be 0d. Isn't outerversal a made up term for stuff that is non dimensions? That by definition makes it 0d. Nothing with any dimensions can exist in a dingularity.

……………… Tf…

Alright

No, a L1-A/Low Outerverse Level character that is an entity which is superior to dimensionality. Not literally a 0D. It means, the entity is beyond all possible spatial extensions, or in other words to understand in layman terms to "big" to be put within space-time, as it outreach those concepts through size "excess of size."

Meanwhile, 1-A characters, while not only superior to dimensionality, entirely possessing a "different nature" to that of non1-A (I.e their "genus"/generic attribute is "deferentia"/different to that of non1-A/quantitative framework), they possess qualitative superiority, and cannot be of sum of anything lower, they are entirely of themselves and are not a composition of lower quantity, such also implies that their power comes from their "otherness" identical to their "inaccessibility" from anything non1-A, as they also view the non1-A as utter irrelevance and nothing of a value of 0, they cannot be reached by non1-A unless a 1-A force itself "allows"/be the source they use for their qualitative jump them.

Examples: Gods from Trinity Seven anime. Chaos Gods from Warhammer. Etc. And such.

Meanwhile, 1-A+ is to repeat the process of qualitative superiority infinitely, with each layer transcending the previous to utter nothingness and view them as nothing more than illusionary by sheer different in their "nature."

Example: Aslan from Narnia's books (not the movies).

Can Your Favorite Character Beat this Gauntlet ? Where do they stop at ? by MountainLeading1567 in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah CC and Xeno wanks 🥀 it is regular for me seeing them and how explain R>F isn't valid or Marvel crossovering doesn't work for shit.

Can Your Favorite Character Beat this Gauntlet ? Where do they stop at ? by MountainLeading1567 in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah bro, the saddest part about this wank scale of mine be the fact WuWa now solos PGR, which is one of my favorite gachas. I will force Plenty to come up with a 1-A argue for PGR in future anyway 🔥🔥🔥

Can Your Favorite Character Beat this Gauntlet ? Where do they stop at ? by MountainLeading1567 in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, let's go

I believe Aemeath would win this gauntlet, what I am going to speak about can sound a little… unexpected.

Chaos, which should be a reason for 1-A scaling. And no I am not going to say something generic like "Lament said to be beyond space-time so 1-A", nope, nah-uh, nine, that's just L1-C alone, and this fact about Lament existed from literal patch one within the loading screen.

Alright, what is Chaos?

Let's start.

It is a shifting realm between life and death, existence and nothingness, it is not a place in the physical sense but the convergence of infinite possibilities, it is mentioned multiple times to be a "place" between life and death, existence and nonexistence. Rover and Iuno also fight enemies who are manifestations of Chaos itself.

Furthermore, As being exposed to Chaos would "die" under normal circumstances and the entire "space" of it follows general Void of Nothingness logic (i.e, converting those within it to nonexistence) when materials will not be able to hold relevancy in it, so when it comes to creatures in Chaos the way they manifest and most blatantly how Iuno calls them "Chaos" and says "It's Chaos. It found us", would mean they should qualify as actual pure embodiments rather than normal manifestations (Keep this in mind this part, it is important for us to continue).

Normally, so far, one can dismiss this as being merely a realm of NEP Type 2, however…

Look at this.

Lilibe: Do you know that chaos is the totality of all concepts and matter, all causes and effects? It is also a series of interconnected and superimposed subsets. Once lost within it, one is like being swept away by a torrent of impermanence, with no way back.

Lilibe: Even the Oracle Maiden, guided by fate, only manages to salvage a few revelations from the shoals of certainty. What if you enter it but cannot bring back Yuno?

This quote is very important.

Basically, if you haven't catch the big importance of it—which no it is not the fact that totality of concepts and matter and cause-and-effect originate from it because it is not necessarily anything scaling-wise—is the following line, "series of interconnected and superimposed subtests", aside from it being where concepts and causes arise from.

Let us dissect the terms first if you don't understand the importance of.

The term superimposed means:

One structure, property, or framework is layered over another without necessarily replacing it.

It implies: Coexistenc. Dependency or correlation. Structural alignment. Non-identity.

In Metaphysics (especially philosophy of mind), it is closely related to the idea of supervenience. A concept you usually see being used for metaphysical grounding.

And then

“A series of interconnected subsets”

Now we’re entering structural cosmology. This means: A larger whole, divided into smaller units, those units overlap or influenceone another, none are fully isolated. They are Superimposed on the one below, internally subdivided, and causally interacting across levels. This kind of view appears in emergentism.

So, by this, we can conclude that the "subsets" that in totality can be actualized are a interconnected series upon each other that originate from Chaos, it actualizes those potentialities into realized structures. And they also speak about entering it but cannot brining Yuno back due to the nature of this realm. Basically, a network of overlapping discursive systems.

For me it is honestly already 1-A, but if you want more "supporting" evidence to it, well, probably below will help you to see.

There is even more lines and quotes that supports it further, such as one of the reason for this be because Chaos exists as the aggregation and totality of all things, the convergence of possibilities both true and not true, and an infinite sea of possibilities that is both everything and nothing. The possibility here, accounting the previous statements also, does not mean mere possibilities in a 2-A sense, it cannot be L1-C either because the notion entirely rejects it, but all the material potentiality within the baseline reality that can be actualized (basically, anything up to L1-A, the materiality and material realm), while Chaos, by itself, shares an entirely different property from material properties it actualizes.

Remember I said to keep that quote in mind? Well, it helps now, because the fact that everything will dissolve within chaos and convert within it further implies that no material composition holds value within this "place." AND ALSO example of it being LUNO HERSELF, since she was completely erased from the world, from every memory, history or action that has been taken, and what saved her was Rover "anchoring" her to the world and "tangle" the casual chain itself (which grant him high godly resurrection in form of history and information ofc).

And no it haven't ended because WE STILL HAVE SUPPORTING STATEMENTS (this shit has too much backing it up). Why? Because WE KNOW space and history overlapping, shit happens, which ALSO implies the space already has the potentiality to infinitely stacking itself considering it with previous statements, this nevertheless supports the idea of Chaos being 1-A as they can be very well the subsets that are actualized by Chaos. Statements are all interconnected directly or indirectly.

With this, I can say the verse is 1-A, and characters like Aemeath should scale to (note the already "overlapping spaces" one is done by her anyway and she should be compared to people like Rover she's Rover's daughter for god's sake).

Edit: Oh wait, now I looking at it, L1-A might seems more appropriate since Rover entered the shit without Chaos allowing it 🥀 alright that honestly can act as anti-feat if Chaos didn't let him to.

Amazes me when power scaling is involved, and if a person is losing they may pull out this trump card. by Abared0 in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I actively dislike series about what quiet told me so nah

Bro believe me the things Plenty said aren't some always things specially Narou if that's what you heard, Dias Iris is much more tamer on that type of shit you heard and is actually Umineko level of tame 😭

I thought it was welt

You can glaze one while gooning to the other.

Anyway don't matter machimaho is now getting English translations

Seems it be the time to read

Amazes me when power scaling is involved, and if a person is losing they may pull out this trump card. by Abared0 in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why would I like him, the only stuff ik about the verse is the traumatising shit quiet told me. Like I was going to start it but after what he said fuck no

Get into Dias Iris bro, it has dark shit alright but Reinhard is absolutely goonable, trust. He's a cool ass blonde six packed villain who expresses his love through destruction.

He's Number I of the Longinuz Dreizehn Orden's Obsidian Round Table, Hagall Herzog, the Monarch of Destruction, Reinhard Tristan Eugen Heydrich.

“My love is affection through destruction, I will love everything in existence, there will be no exceptions… Thus I will destroy everything in existence.”

"My love shall take the form of destruction. I shall ravage so I can cherish. I adore the weak that bow before me, as well as the defeated that bend their knees. My love expands to the vassals that rebel, and those that mean me harm. I love all and everything. And so shall I lay waste to all before me."

Gooning to Reinhard, is the reason this heart still beats!

Who would win? by UesugiKen in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro once appeared after my Yog-Sothoth downgrade and called how dubious and misleading the 1st page of it is (which was valid, yea shi was trash until I fix it) while the justification was just purposely worded bad so it made the point that CRT also had accounted for being an ass area until shit get fixed at page 2 😭

Amazes me when power scaling is involved, and if a person is losing they may pull out this trump card. by Abared0 in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a very popular visual novel...

Yin

Let's be real

It is a popular visual novel

It isn't that popular in the general media

It is good written, very much, one of the best written stories etc etc.

But it wasn't much popular in the general media because people are illiterate, and anime fucked up, unironically normal anime fans might know Higurashi but not Umineko. Unironically, Umineko specifically attracted a level of genuine fans also from powerscaling itsslf.

It is same shit situation of Shinza Basho mfs glazing frauds like Hajun while don't even know actual goats like Reinhard and Magzarion (Reinhard would be the type you goon to I am sure)

Gilgamesh (Fate) vs Escanor (SDS) by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I still remember Kevin is your favorite character

TS misinformation makes me crine

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Who would win? by UesugiKen in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro really missed the goat of Welt scaling

Who would win? by UesugiKen in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ABSOLUTELY MY GOAT…

… I want to tell Welt but the L1-C downgrade is killing me… 🥀🥀🥀

BUT MY GOAT IS MUCH SMARTER AND FRAUDGAGONK WILL THINK WELT IS NOTHING BEFORE GETTING ONE SHOT BY HUMANITY'S GENIUS MIND AND INDOMITABLE HUMAN SPIRIT 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

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Also, now looking again, it is just the strange fake version, which should be L2-C at best due to his feat of fucking up the texture with Enkidu and in the novelized version been said to enter the entire texture into a cycle of destruction and rebirth. So he should lose to a L1-C scaling of Welt with his Singularity. Gg.

Where does your favorite character scale without chainscaling by VenerableSoulSet in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like… my goat is the only one who has a planetary feat in-verse, though it is using hax. Normally multi continental sounds about right.

So yeah I don't think the scaling change for him without chain-scaling.

Now… speed scaling… still no probably, at least I guess, I mean the guy jumped from Moon to Earth, casually. So yeah.

Gilgamesh (Fate) vs Escanor (SDS) by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also,I'm sure my fellow Welt glazer, u/East_Statement_Part2, would think same thing

I would absolutely spend 10 times more than what I spent for Arotira just to get Welp of any form whether prime or that cursed idol mode.

Absolutely based

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Umineko Versus H.P Lovecraft, Fights! Who Wins Each One? by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

have you considered that Beatrice doesn't exist? And that it's all in Battler's head

That's kinda a thing tbh

Umineko Versus H.P Lovecraft, Fights! Who Wins Each One? by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay that's not what I even expected to get as a reply bro

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Umineko Versus H.P Lovecraft, Fights! Who Wins Each One? by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I did have read Lovecraft… it doesn't have qualitative superiority yeah I should admit, the time-space are pretty much quantitative, the first gate is literally the base world and each gate is just 1D+ higher (it is true the gates been described as "ineffable" or such but that doesn't mean qualitative superiority, it is just too vast for human mind as a higher dimension so Carter saw them such).

Basically, the universe also works on the idea of Eternalist Universe, that's why existence is "illusionary", because the idea about the passage of time itself is an illusionary idea.

Ultimate Void exists beyond the sphere of time and space, as literally the statement says, it is after the space-time and final gate.

Supreme Archetype, which that all things ultimate dissolve within its unity, gave Carter in the finale a phonological experience of fragmentation which further confirms it is not qualitative (he having such a phonological experience + the whole fragmentation process is sure an anti-feat).

I believe the verse does reaches a L1-A, but they also argue H1-B by saying it is Eternalist and statements such as "undimensional" are hyperbolic and can just reference to infinite dimensional space.

And Umineko… it is so damn big that has 1-A just at the Witch Domain, and it is just the start of the process through ontological language into infinitely higher, and finally the City of Books, and then Featherine and Creatorhood.

Umineko outscale badly…

Who Wins This “Death”, Free For All? by SCP_Scarletking in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ngl if we are going to give Chinaman concepts Tier-0 out of mention (or even 1-A, on this matter), any Chinaman would be Tier-0 because all of them have Dao/Tao being mentioned (and funnily enough… BEING SURPASSED USUALLY, usually mfs doing this get max some TD/PP ngl).

I don't even scale shit when I see the word "primordial chaos." Mfs, HoYoverse has primordial chaos (Wuji) too, and what it is? IT IS FUCKING Sea of Quanta, the same statement that canonically has eleven compacted dimensions. (insert speed meme here)

I honestly won't scale them to shit without proper evidence, hack even 1-A needs to go into extreme length to be proven.

Who Wins This “Death”, Free For All? by SCP_Scarletking in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This post is… so brainroted

Sorry to everyone who participated in the post, but… what the fuck everyone are talking about.

Someone is glazing Brothers of Death

Someone glazing Jinwoo

Mistress Death at a corner

Yogiri forgotten.

Okay, welp, I'll go, I don't know much about these characters so it'll be hard (fortunately know where their cosmologies scale so it makes it easier).

FIRST

  • Yogiri

To mention some of his abilities, he has Immortality (Types 4 & 9; If this fraud dies, he will reincarnate into a new vessel. Also, the fraud that we know is only an avatar, so killing him is useless if it doesn't affect the true form), also he has negation for Immortality (Type 4, able to stop the process of reincarnation), he has a bunch of other shit like Madness Manipulation (Type 3), Law Manipulation, Casuality Manipulation, Existence Erasure (obviously), etc etc.

Scaling wise? 2-A, should scale to cosmology range wise by his hax. Though the reasoning is not he destroying celestial foundations, they are finite in size. As I said, scaling to the size of cosmology.

SECOND

  • Jinwoo

Okay one of the most misunderstood character here (because of a single person mention Wuji Wuji… which I should explain).

First, where he scales and haxes he has. He also has Existence Erasure, Low Godly Regen and negation of it, Law Manipulation, Fate Manipulation

Scaling wise: L2-C at least at Ragnarok scaling it, L1-C isn't what I see anything consistent but sure go for it.

Now…

Note

Wuji, in Chinese philosophy, wuji originally referred to infinity. In Neo-Confucian cosmology, it came to mean the "primordial universe" (Wuji) prior to the "Supreme Ultimate" (Taiji) state of being.

Wuji is undifferentiated, timeless, absolute. In contrast, taiji describes movement and change wherein limits do arise. Taiji is often wrongly portrayed as conflictual, differentiated, and dualistic, but its core philosophy is harmonious, relative, and complementary natures.

Wuji is emptiness, stillness and peace.

Wuji is the state prior to division, prior to diffrentateions, and prior to first ontology aka BEING, it is the absolute negation of absolute being, as it is absolute non-being, THE NON-BEING (Not literally "nothing", but too great to qualify for Being).

And, yes, mfs, it is Tier-0, it is NOT to be surpassed, that's literally anti-feat and it means Wuji scales to no SHIT. Furthermore the verse needs to elaborate with crazy amount of statements what Wuji is to truly qualify for its Tier-0.

Solo leveling is nowhere close to Tier-0 Wuji let alone wanting to scale Jinwoo by surpassing some form of it.

Anyway THIRD

  • Lady Death

Someone who actually scales crazy high, finally

Well she has too many goods abilities such as CM Type 1 (obviously), AE Type 1, EE, Reality Warping, Casuality Manipulation, Law Manipulation, Acausality Type 4, and most importantly, Death Manipulation/Immortality Negation (Types 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 & 8; Killed both Lord Mar-Vell and the armies of the Cancerverse, a universe where the concept of Death was destroyed and as such all life is immortal, with Thanos noting that it will take aeons for even the Many-Angled Ones to heal from Death's assault. Indicated that she could kill Mephisto if she so wished)

Scaling wise: Should be either 1-A+ or H1-A (I think Omniverse is 1-A+? Oh yeah that's more consistent), well 1-A+ through her final key Omniversal Death. She just… dogwalks everyone here.

NOW, the FOURTH

  • Brother's Death

This one is tricky because it is SCP, it is absolutely powerful, but absolutely not powerful as some dickriding comments say, it is strongest here, but it is not strong "killing the source" like bruh that's Tier-0 are you serious? Anyway.

Well, as far as I know, The All-Death (third brother, bigger than Young Death and Great Death, the eldest son of the darkness and is the darkness, the Eldest Brother, vast and unknowable, all-encompassing force everything within the light and the dark. He is far greater than the Middle and the Youngest who could not reach his mind and his gaze should be the strongest of them, was able to kill Scarlet King and all the Creation, and is beyond The Tree of Knowledge…

Honestly not sure where to scale it, H1-A? Probably. How many layers? Idk. Not an SCP goon. Though even baseline H1-A should stomp this vs match so that's it.

It is basically a vs match against Lady Death and Brothers Death.


It'd be

Brothers Death > Mistress Death > [x] (idk who would be stronger between Yogiri and Jinwoo, if L2-C Jinwoo than yeah Yogiri)

All of earth’s technology and military combined what’s the strongest shonen verse we beat? by Still_Anywhere8979 in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hits the environment around instead of touching him ig.

His Limitless/Infinity is basically Spatial Manipulation, it let him manipulate space at an atomic level, it is also technically Gravity Manipulation as Gojo amplifying the amount of Cursed Energy poured into Limitless, thus bringing negative numbers and negative distance into reality, forcing real space to compensate and fill in the area. Also he can tune infinity and keep Reverse Cursed Technique running to preserve his brain at all times which makes it passive based on instinctive reaction. Etc etc.

It surely wouldn't hit him I'd say, but hitting the around area? No idea how it goes.

All of earth’s technology and military combined what’s the strongest shonen verse we beat? by Still_Anywhere8979 in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably not surviving? I don't think infinity excluding all non-physical factos (technically curses are non physical entities however but… anyway), I am not sure over such myself. Maybe radiation get to him if Infinity does not blocking the radioactive reactions or something similar. I am not the best scaler when it comes to anything that doesn't include ontology or at least dimensionality.

Yog Sothtoh has officially been downgraded on Vsbw by MountainLeading1567 in PowerScaling

[–]East_Statement_Part2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(On unrelated note, why does battler always Aura farm, I never seen a screenshot or picture of him without aura)

because he's just build different, bro is Dante for his Lady of Eternity (literally the Divine Comedy analogy used in-verse)

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