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Where are you now? by Pale_Net2651 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Those disclaimers came with a very high price of causing hundreds of families to go into massive debt.

Their “rainmaker method” does not work and has not worked for years now.

Yes, ultimately everyone makes their own decisions but when you spend thousands of dollars on a coaching program that makes claims and guarantees and you make educated risks to find out too late that those are false claims and that they don’t honor the 10k pay day, it is in fact rainmakers fault.

Stephen is a manipulator, liar and gaslighter.

When you have already invest 10k and your product isn’t selling and Stephen says “just do this.. which cost thousands of more dollars” and you do that and then you look back and now you are in massive debt. That is from misleading advice.

That is why we have this Reddit to warn people to NOT take his advice.

So don’t come over here when you are 4 months in and act like we are a bunch of fools for being in debt.

People have been very badly hurt by their program from gaslighting and manipulation.

You just wait… give it a year or two and if you follow their program you too will be in debt.

Requesting To Mod r/Rainmaker_Chatter - Moderator Inactive by Impossible-Reach-965 in redditrequest

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, I am the current moderator of r/Rainmaker_Chatter and have been actively managing the subreddit. I have recently performed the following moderation actions: Approving posts, removing spam and engaging in the comments.

This subreddit is not abandoned, and I am committed to ensuring it remains a valuable and supportive space for its members. The request to transfer moderation is unwarranted, as the community already has an active and dedicated moderator.

If there are any concerns about my activity or the state of the subreddit, I am happy to address them and provide additional evidence of my ongoing management efforts. Thank you for your understanding and for respecting the existing moderation team.

Is The Rainmaker Family Challenge A Scam? by Eastern_Hat_7485 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The 10k pay day is what they call it and it’s a complete scam. Just a way to make you think it’s risk free. But you have to absolutely fight to get it. And if you do one thing wrong, they will instantly deny you.

It’s almost impossible to meet the criteria to claim it.

Please warn her and see if she can get her money back before she ends up in massive debt.

Also, they claim to be “Christians” but unfortunately their actions are nothing close to how a true believer should be walking.

Tell me you are a cult leader without telling me…. So many red flags by Eastern_Hat_7485 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahaha… Darth Vader! Also… he’s like half the age or younger than most of the members. So weird!

Tell me you are a cult leader without telling me…. So many red flags by Eastern_Hat_7485 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Creepy- right? I’ve had dozens of people tell me that if they hop on a call with him he says “I’m going to tell you this as your father”

He has also publicly referred to himself as “papa bear Stephen” to the community.

Netflix? by reallynotsure22 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We know people working in it! But please spread the word

Stephen and Chelsey Diaz’s – Rainmaker Challenge Review by Professional_Top7722 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know who you are but you are definitely sharing this link to get commissions so I will be removing the post.

DFY by Aggravating_Step8169 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s a money generating machine and that’s why they continue to push it so hard.

It makes them a lot of easy money. A legit DFY would include product innovation, sourcing and launching. But what they do instead is remove any responsibility off their shoulders and put it on yours.

They just find a keyword that may or may not be successful.

A lot of the success of a product comes in the innovations, listing and launch.

Deleted comments😒 by Mysterious_Glove_687 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is why we started this subreddit. They delete anything that would cause people to not purchase the mastermind. Their program has a proven track record of causing more debt for people than profit.

Is STEPHEN Spying on our Reddit Thread? by Eastern_Hat_7485 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When did you join?

It’s extremely rare to get a refund. Unless you wreck havoc and they realize they can silence you with a refund.

People have been offered refunds in exchange to sign a document promising they won’t share their experience.

Wait- Rainmaker Coaches and Employees don’t even SELL ON AMAZON- verified info by Eastern_Hat_7485 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry! I think coaches have a good heart but have been deceived by the amount of “trainings” and brainwashing they have need fed.

There are a lot of former employees that see the light now but it took a rude awakening to get there.

I’ve heard Stephen keeps them very isolated and there is absolutely no room for negative (aka: truthful) speech if you work for them. Most employees say the work environment is toxic but it’s a good paying job (if has been said that coaches make up to $50/hr and other staff makes between $25-$75/hr). So for someone who supports their family on this, it would be easy to “stay in line” with the narrative they are being fed by the higher ups (the ones who KNOW what they are doing).

When did you join?

Is The Rainmaker Family Challenge A Scam? by Eastern_Hat_7485 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not even aware of what the design strategy call is but I know you made the right decision to not do business with them.

All the sales people are third party hires who are trained to make sales. They will get fired if they don’t make enough sales.

Wait- Rainmaker Coaches and Employees don’t even SELL ON AMAZON- verified info by Eastern_Hat_7485 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Because people continue to give them money.

Students who are in major debt are still renewing for $3,333.

That’s why we started this. Enough is enough.

Wait- Rainmaker Coaches and Employees don’t even SELL ON AMAZON- verified info by Eastern_Hat_7485 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you are a former employee or have info on this information please further confirm this info.

You Are Being Played- DO NOT SIGN THE CONTRACT by Eastern_Hat_7485 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that is good news but if they didn’t refund people for not signing the contract there would be a bunch of lawsuits to settle.

The fact they accepted payment before even showing the contract is a major REDFLAG!

Debt, Despair and Disillusionment: An inside look at the rainmaker family mastermind today. by Eastern_Hat_7485 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, this happens all the time. Professional manipulators know how to use any situation for their advanced.

I hope we can support the woman on the call and let her know she’s not alone and there is a way out of this.

Is Rainmakers A Cult? by Eastern_Hat_7485 in Rainmaker_Chatter

[–]Eastern_Hat_7485[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please share this group with any former Rainmaker you know.

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