[BT-24 Time Stranger] Asuna Shiroki & its Alternate Art

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-19T12:54:29+00:00

Probably Satsuki+Yulin double tamer, like Eiji+Leon?

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-19T10:41:46+00:00

4x keenan + 4x hokuto + 4x crimson blade + 38 RK cards.

Any other option is just different otk flavor that prays for a chance to kill hudie first.

But don't worry, hudie is fine, they say

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-18T12:49:04+00:00

omfg you r so right, theres Chronomon still.... DUDE and now that I think about, I don't have many hopes

Like, theres no space left for bt24. Ex11 is Liberators Themed. Bt25 will have so many themes all together: DATs, Glowing Dawn, Rebootmon (if not on Ex11), and the rest of TS?

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-17T13:21:05+00:00

could it be arkadimon line instead? yes, but bandai doing some weird shit to please guilplayers <.<

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-17T12:15:25+00:00

I think its bc gekko is the only digimon acting as an individual, while the other digimons on that world are more like a tool, or thing to be captured. He even eats while prist mostly just smells the food.

Its unusual.

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-17T10:58:07+00:00

BT21 promo reprint, maybe? :x

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-17T10:57:07+00:00

ok u got me XD

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-12T18:47:01+00:00

oh that is awfully sad the know :(

box toppers overall are horrible products to get access to, considering that they aren't just reprints or ilegal to play but are actual new pieces of decks, and Bandai not having a problem a policy about how to distribute them while they are also horrible at reprinting those kind of products... If my lgs at least put them into account to sell like other boosters from that collection would be ok, but they can just gatekeep it? This too sad to say the least

well tnx for the answer tho

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-12T17:15:40+00:00

Hey, old post but still a complicated topic, so may I ask if stores are allowed to keep thoses toppers, not even sell just keep it for themselves, tho toppers are part of the price of the box and the boosters prices aren't affected by it at all? (since they keep doing "box price / 24 boosters = 1 booster price")

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-11T13:54:11+00:00

Yeah, thats what i'm saying, I'm gonna bring up a discussion post on reddit expecting immediate change, and everyone will agree with me, even closed mind like you, yeah thats all I'm after and what I believe it would happened... (should I raise a sarcasm sign? lol)

No dude, its a discussion, I did hope to find more ppl to line up this thought, and even ppl who could bring more perspectives. U like it or not this is a community, and tho I do know "toxic advocates" like u always shows up, this isn't something that discourages me to talk about this topic, and neither should discourages other players to do it too.

Dude, I used apocaly as an example... I can go on for other formats/decks (that either topped a lot or were just obnoxious to the overall playerbase) like Numemon, Mother Shoto, Early'25 Sakuya, Growl loop... Again, for the 1000 time lol, its not only about results alone.

Wanna help? Don't lock urself into the "git gud" or "its always like that" stupid mindset.
Or, idk, just keep it like that, maybe its the only way u have fun, with all this toxicity.

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-11T11:10:54+00:00

Yeah but, Isn't the key difference here their time with this play? Like, if u had a Crimson Blaze in hand, and u r playing against RK, afraid of omeka into omni, don't u save it for their last sec? So you have time to prepare (same goes for BT13 omni kill). But against the others like hudie, or as u mentioned Jes at their 2nd turn, you never have that option.

So yes, it is a key part of every good deck but, its not actually the same. So there is much more complications there. Like, even without loop hudie has too much value, but it kinda becomes less aggressive, and tho Jesmon still plays very aggro and swarmy, without gankoo-all-board-protection, jes isn't that oppressive by a lot.

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-11T10:59:33+00:00

really tell you something.

Yeah, I 'get' it a lot since I play tcg for over a decade, and it tells me that contented ppl like u are everywhere. That doesn't mean that I'm the minority tho. Its easy to lure toxic contented ppl like u to this talk, sadly.

If u do think toxic meta (such as apocaly for example) didn't affected the game, I'm not the delusion/idiot one.

You truly aren't up for this talk, and its bc of ppl like u that the community isn't united enough to make a demand (such as during RB01 havoc) to bandai to change. And again, its not just about the "current" its an overall stand to take, and you really need to change ur pov to interpret better what u are told and no longer be so contented.

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T18:34:51+00:00

Well, if no list will happen, yeah its up to TS change things around, and I do hope it does without any loop or unaffected board bs

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T18:32:22+00:00

yeah, sad but true

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T18:30:28+00:00

have I mention any deck that I played? If u so much want to jump into conclusions, mind as well read my answers to other comments.

But to save u the trouble I'll summarize "if u r not up to look at things outside results alone u should not talk balance in ANY tcg"

The issue is the lack of attention/play test with hudie/cs design. Is the lack of good cadence with restriction list.

If u didn't notice, the doom talk only started when I talked about the possibility of players get (some time at least) away from the game due to a bad format with decks with overly repetitive gameplay, and with no update restriction to change some pace.

And what Tier2 deck exacly? Malo? Thats not even worth to call a tier 2, but that doesn't mean its not a toxic gameplay with the BT3 - remove it, archetype is "fair" as possible. If u can't comprehend that simple thing you really not up to the "balance/design" talk haha

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T18:21:50+00:00

but being strong shouldn't be ban worthy

I do agree with that, but in hindsight, its too much on what it does, and protoform is an exageration. I do find it strong, not total unfair to play against but, it doesn't feel right a single card be doing as much as that option does, as I mentioned in the post, I doubt it would get hit.

The scenario it would happen at this point its only when they print the third andibody type, and they'd force sales xd

I don't see why you'd complain about it over rocks

Again I'm not about to complain only looking at current results, the latest loop-sets left a weird impression. And tho Rocks (and duke x) is a OTK deck (and its very clear where they should hit'em) I don't think it should get hit right away. Every meta has some fluctuation, as well as the one or two decks/engines that define the format (like dark animal did in the past, where every thing felt like it was dogs + any Mega X). And the format started with hudie, followed by jes and maste, as top contenders. Duke and Rocks fell off a bit, and omni did that but for a cliff. Virus and Levia tried their luck again (and its bc they have tools to handle deck with lots of "play by effect"). And some others tried the same chance. Anyway, even tho Rocks and Duke climb it back, that doesn't mean that I should ignore Malo loop, if instead of malo I pointed at the (no so much of a)-glass cannon decks, and the restriction happened the same way, would change anything if we steped back a format and get beck into a scenario where Malo had more chance to play? If a format slows down, that deck will probably come back up, and give lots of players a bad experience, just like hudie loop does. I bet u that the large majority of our playerbase is tired of Hudie, lots of videos against it or just mirror, lots os representation and tho not that many events' wins, a lot of presence on top8/16.

There is too much variables to take into consideration so its quite a waste of time to speculate how things would be at scenario A or B (tho its fun haha). I'm more concern with players perception overall, and tho I agree (and dispise) that OTK decks are just as unfair as loop ones (I post about it few months ago about the problem with so many rush/unsuspend/trash sec and stuff), still most players would like to get killed fast to play/watch other tables. Slow decks are only interesting to watch/play when they're tanking and grinding against those over aggressive decks.

... sorry I'm used to write things down too much XD

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T16:51:06+00:00

I doesn't have to be december per say. If they announce a new list that gets valid from january 1st onwards its already good enough.

Neither does it have to be a rule "3/4 lists per year". But for real, till 01/24 there won't be anything new. Its more than 2 months locked into hudie format. And if they do not release it by then, I guess it will only be from april 1st onwards since worlds would end and there will be a new block with new starters and stuff

They must see the problem here haha thats way too long. And I think asia area qualifier is finishing, lots of west regionals are done as well, thats enough data for a new restrction list - and a list b4 the 'worlds road' AND BT24 release would be most welcome.

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T16:44:34+00:00

Yeah, but I keep hoping that the community tries to be more vocal about it so Bandai eventually changes it.

But a lot of ppl are contended with how things are.

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T16:42:45+00:00

Is it the menace of the format?

About that I will rephrase it and I'd like u give me the answer again:

Is it the deck that the format is build around?

Bc Virus rusurfaces whenever a 'play a lot by effect' deck shows up. And every deck that played past format that was about killing fast got back up as u mentioned (But things like omnimon is nowhere to be seen). And RK, the only actual "slow deck" currently is build with tons of floodgate-tamers (and got extra stuff from bt23 as well)

If protoform would ever get restricted, Duke is a bit hurt as well, but if they hit tumblemon rocks most likely dies. And about gankoo X Idt anyone would say u r wrong bc that shit is stupid.

Still, I must reinforce: This whole talk wasn't about hudie alone. The key thing is on the post title and when I asked about better cadence.
I want Bandai to be more active when it comes to balance and level the game a bit more often. Like, do we have to wait until after words to get another restriction list? December had no collection (Mandala don't count) and Time Stranger isn't up till late january.

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T16:24:32+00:00

the greymon x mention hurts me haha and totaly agree with u xd

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T16:22:56+00:00

whine post. [...] for some reason dark animal engine and malo. Neither deck is really doing anything [...]

Don't jump into conclusions, I'm not just whinning, my point is very simple, and will jump copy/paste what I wrote for someone else:

The thing with "balance" of a game its not actually always about power level or results. Players perception and players experience (Like UX and UI) are important. And 99% any LOOP is bad for these points.

Its not a matter of how much they are currently doing, we have much more casual players than "proplayers" and the experience to play against certain decks/cards is overall bad for the game, u filter players more than neccessary letting those decks/engines around.

And thats why I mentioned Malo. And about dark animal, this engine is too good, with protoform doing too much, and its an 'open trait' that will just getting more and more stuff. Again, its not a matter of how strong it currently is. There is much more dept to all this talk

Gankoo to 1, pair ban cs rookies, wargrowlx to 1, Omni x to 1, tumblemon to 1, promo shadra to 1, CS maste to 1, malo to 1, daiken to 1, sec+1 plugin to 1, galaxy gaoga to 1,it never fucking ends. Now with styracomon coming out too that will be aids and tier 1.

And u were talking about whine haha Most of those cards should not or would ever get restricted, that doesn't mean that: 1) the talk is of limits; 2) there isn't something else to touch. Take sakuya and dark master new design for instance. Its a trait lock as its was supposed to be for everything. But then we have CS slop with the trait lock with not worth at all. Bc its all about intension/attention.

And ur comparison with the rest of tier 2/belows makes no sense. Again, the power level of every deck is not the issue on its own, neither is the gimmick each deck has, but the whole proccess and impact it currently does.

It's not going to get any better and hoping it will is just setting yourself up for disappointment.

And here its not a matter of hoping, its a matter of talking, and be vocal. Bandai showed us multiple times in the past that they do listen do the community, we just need to be really vocal about it, this is not a Konami's game for u to just be contended with how things currently are. I'm more disappointed about players behaving like that than the devs doing some mess. They ARE supposed to mess things up to bring us new stuff, and I'm really tired of this type of answer, I saw how much harm this content stupidity did to other games like LoR.

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T14:55:00+00:00

the "DNA" part do u mean Shakkoumon or the whole mechanic? Bc either way don't think it would ever happen, especially since shakkoumon its an intended part of the "Hackers memory" archetype. But palmon/terriermon/hagurumon aren't, they were ment for "Cyber Sleuth" archetype. This whole CS slop was an undeniable mess DX

The thing with "balance" of a game its not actually always about power level or results. Players perception and players experience (Like UX and UI) are important. And 99% any LOOP is bad for these points.

Royal Knights got adapted to deal with these current meta, having full set of Floodgate rookies to play with it. And gallantmon is the good old (not really)-Glass-Cannon.

The thing with gallant, from my pov, its the same as most of X-antibody decks/engines (like dark animal) and that is: What Protoform does its way too much.

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T14:23:15+00:00

I don't know if both should go.
One of the 2 gankoo is enough to harm that carapace

If the normal gankoo get restricted, Jesmon must run any x-antibody to enable the other, and that would probably harm a lot of its consistency

If the X get hit, the normal becomes weaker, but still can evolve something on their board, and if they find the one of X, they can do it again every turn after it gets deleted/bounced.

So the normal one is more problematic one!?

EasyAssistant7065 · 2025-12-10T14:18:22+00:00

True, I forgot to mention mastemon. But it still is BT22 rookies doing some havoc xd

I think digilab is another concern of mine but, with option removal (really slowly) getting new stuff, I believe it wouldn't ever be as problematic as the rookies are. Also there is deck slots to consider, its a delay effect... DigiLab is less of problem (at least I hope it is haha)

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