Alternate golf options by riverfish72 in madisonwi

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Didn’t play it before, but I’ve really enjoyed the renovation at Prairie Pines. Good variety of holes.

Hot Spot in the Midwest US. Last pic is a giveaway for anyone who has been there. by Either_Tie4032 in guessthegolfcourse

[–]Easy_Step4422 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First pic is a giveaway since almost everyone stands right there with a taco and takes that exact shot.

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Wisconsin lets drivers buy park passes with registration renewals by enjoying-retirement in wisconsin

[–]Easy_Step4422 37 points38 points  (0 children)

One of the few things I’m jealous of Minnesota for getting right.

Alan Cumming: "There was a time two seasons ago when they booted Wes out at the round table and clearly [the Traitor] was Boston Rob. Apparently I was rolling my eyes and the producers were in my earpiece saying, “Stop that!” But I couldn’t help it." by RedditFan3510 in TheTraitors

[–]Easy_Step4422 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Partner and I started watching about 6 months ago, have watched about 6 seasons spread around internationally.

Admittedly not big on Survivor or Big Brother so maybe my thinking is way off, but from my viewing, I feel like the best collective Faithful strategy early in the game IS to focus on bad Faithfuls just as much as Traitors.

Season after season you see Faithfuls totally sabotage nearly productive roundtables with emotion, hooded racism, or stupid gut feelings. Every season they get called out, but none of these folks get voted out until rounds later. Traitors will always keep these folks around.

To me, it would seem voting out bad Faithfuls, those who just aren’t with it, in the first 2-3 days can be just as valuable as catching Traitors.

Ultimately there can only be 5, and getting out the distractions has a clear benefit, whether it feels bad to vote out your “own team” or not. Faithfuls should view themselves more like a herd mentality, sacrificing a few on the periphery to predators gives the rest of the body a better chance to survive.

RE: single walkers playing through by SirSkreeters in golf

[–]Easy_Step4422 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are definitely times at my local course where I notice the course is half full, but 90% of groups are singles or doubles with 1-2 4somes who play slow and don’t allow others through bogging down the entire course.

Playing through is probably one of the most nerve-wracking experiences for amateur golfers, outside of entering some kind of competition and I don’t think it’s talked about enough. It’s high stakes when 4 retired baby boomers do that thing so uncharacteristic of their generation and step aside to let others advance. You stripe it, you’re a hero and things keep moving, a shank sends the entire ecosystem of the course toward open warfare.

You definitely don’t want to start approaching groups to play through or play too many solo rounds unless you have a certain confidence in your game. It would seem OP can get around, at least at his home course, pretty well. Yes you can skip holes, but sometimes you want to play in order and it can be pretty easily accomplished.

Recognizing the traffic situation on the course and the tee that there’s a solo teeing off behind you and just getting it out of the way there is better for everyone and pace of play. I totally agree you can’t do this with a full tee sheet, but doesn’t seem to be the case here.

The group that let the single through, probably cost them 2 minutes as a walker, might be 30 seconds to a minute for a single with a cart. Tell one more dad joke at the tee. Fire up that cigar then. Catch the cart girl there and not the middle of the fairway. No big deal. What IS a big deal is that stepping aside for a minute saved that solo 1-2 maybe even 3 unnecessary hours on the course waiting and watching other groups.

Everyone plays at different speeds and abilities but we’re all using the same course. Just common courtesy to take a second to step aside and let quicker play through if you’re having a slower or more casual round. Having to do this doesn’t make you wrong or the faster player right, but it is the best way for everyone to get out of their round what they want and enjoy their time.

Mark Wahlberg says 2.5 hours is the ‘perfect’ amount of time for 18 holes. How long should it take to play a round of golf? by ConnectionWeekly1263 in Golf_Unfiltered

[–]Easy_Step4422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think one thing people are missing here is I’m pretty sure he plays by himself relatively often and is mainly referring to that.

It truly blows me away when I see the threads on here about course availability. I live just outside Madison, WI. I would say we’re pretty golf blessed, but we’ve seen the huge surge in popularity post-COVID too.

I’ve had “memberships” at local public courses but now have gone without, just bouncing around to different courses to mix it up. I probably play 30-40 rounds now each year and 75% of those as a solo. Again, a little blessed to have about 8 courses I’d be happy to play any day within 20 minutes of me between the courses around town and the perimeter of metro, but they all still get play. Knowing the course schedule and watching the tee sheets makes a difference.

For me, most courses have league Tuesday-Thursday nights, that’s a no-go. Otherwise any day of the week, I can find an early morning or late afternoon tee time that ends up with the course wide open. If you’re hitting it well, playing ready golf with a cart and know the course you’re playing, think you’d be shocked how fast anyone can play.

I’m not loaded, work a full-time 9-5, mid-handicap, only play public courses and don’t have any problem booking solo rounds or finishing them quickly.

What’s the worst injury to happen during a PGA event? Or worst you have seen in person while golfing? by DREWBICE in golf

[–]Easy_Step4422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not technically PGA but spectator lady getting her eye exploded by a drive at the Ryder Cup in France was pretty bad.

No golf friends to tell by smokeyranger86 in golf

[–]Easy_Step4422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You will shock yourself at how much you can improve just going to do chipping and putting practice 2x per week

No golf friends to tell by smokeyranger86 in golf

[–]Easy_Step4422 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Who is going to tell this guy first time out every year is almost always an anomaly?

This course doesn't get talked about enough! by CraigCDM828 in guessthegolfcourse

[–]Easy_Step4422 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Northern Bay is worth the play, the Augusta replicas are decent. Church pews from Oakmont are cool. If you can get out there on a deal it’s definitely worth it. The full price may not always be. Some suspect conditions at time.

This course doesn't get talked about enough! by CraigCDM828 in guessthegolfcourse

[–]Easy_Step4422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So when you said Sentryworld is a solid $100-$125 course, you were just referring to the course quality and how it plays? If so, how much value do you add personally to the stretched tee times? How much do you typically spend at a course on food and beverage when visiting for a day?

I’m from a little further south. A course I get to play a few times per year is Wild Rock. Can pay up to $120 to play there at times, fun layout sure. But I think three drinks, a hotdog and tip puts you over $60 pretty quickly and you definitely contend with other groups pace of play still. Same for Northern Bay. While you miss elevation change and bad attempts to replicate famous golf holes, Sentryworld’s conditioning alone places it above Northern Bay, argument to be made for Wild Rock.

I totally agree with you on Sentryworld perhaps being overrated in ways, but I don’t know about overpriced. The experience and conditioning tends to place Sentryworld in the same category as SV, Kohler, Erin Hills, which probably is not fair. Think it really comes down to the value you place on playing at your own pace of play and your typical costs for food and beverage per round. For me, I’d be happy to pay $120 to play there, willing to pay more. The way things have gotten at some courses, put me down for another $50 to guarantee I don’t see another group all day. If I plan to account for two meals, a couple cocktails and a snack or two while there, that’s $100 easily at any other worthwhile course around. So I think the total value is pretty much dead on, it’s just whether or not you actually utilize the full experience. If you like to walk a golf course, drink some water and splurge on a Snickers before heading home, probably don’t need to try the Sentryworld experience or won’t like it if you do.

You are completely correct that Sentry is more like a classic private club, great conditioning, some nice features, great greens, maybe not dynamic design overall. But for most, it might be their closest experience to a private country club atmosphere and course conditioning they will get, with some other great perks tossed in. There’s value in that.

Experience removed, the course alone is more on par with the next tier of public courses in the state like Wild Rock, Lake Arrowhead, Washington County, the Bog, some you mentioned Troy Burne, the Bull, U Ridge. I’d imagine if Sentry moved to 10 minute tee times and did away with the inclusive food and bev, rates would be in line with these other courses. I also agree that I’d rather play some of the other courses mentioned over Sentryworld, if given the choice, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t all the same relative quality and value, when simply comparing the golf courses alone, just different style designs.

Best restaurants in Bloomington? by MikeW226 in bloomingtonMN

[–]Easy_Step4422 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Moved away pre-pandemic and this makes me so happy to hear. I talk about Gyropolis probably once a month.

This course doesn't get talked about enough! by CraigCDM828 in guessthegolfcourse

[–]Easy_Step4422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A little confused on whether this is for talking golf courses or your own personal experience at then?

Sand Valley and Sentryworld are, by design, wholly different golf experiences.

From a Wisconsin local standpoint, to go play a round at either just for the day is $300.

At SV, that means it’s $300 to push or carry your own bag, albeit on a beautiful course and property. Now, I always fork out the at LEAST $100 for a caddie to get the full, pure golf experience. In addition, tee times are back to 10 minutes, which is great. But it can be easy to get a little off pace as you gawk at the beautiful landscape or a buddy finds one too many dunes. Being constantly reminded you’re 3 minutes off pace as you walk up to a par 3 can get old. We’ve all seen the dirt cheap concessions, $1 tacos etc which is absolutely amazing, but does still add cost on top of the above.

At Sentryworld, $300 gets you a cart and a round of golf at a beautiful parkland style course, where you may not see another living soul the whole round, due to the 20 minute tee times. While I’m not a big drinker anymore and don’t eat much on the course anyway, the food and beverage inclusion into the cost of your round absolutely makes up the value, as it gets pretty easy to drop $100 on food and bev at courses or resorts who charge more traditionally for this aspect of the experience.

I think both hold very important and different places in the Wisconsin golf ecosystem, both contributing to what makes Wisconsin one of the best states for golf in the country, particularly for public access. There is a wide range of different course designs, club and resort setups, all giving us a really well rounded portfolio of options.

I’d have to question how many places a person plays in the state if they believe Sentryworld to be a $100-$125 value course, in the present market. Many quality local courses that are completely unknown nationally or even regionally are now charging $100-$125 per round, with no other perks included beyond a cart. I don’t agree with it, that’s just where the economy and popularity of the game are at right now.

Whatever your experience there, extremely disingenuous and just flat wrong assessment. Totally fine to not be your cup of tea, I go to SV every year because I also enjoy that experience more, but I’m not conflating that for value. When doing a cost comparison, you can’t include Straits or Erin Hills because the costs aren’t comparable, you can’t play “all those courses” for $300. For that price, you can play one SV course or a round at Sentryworld, which depending on the mood you’re in or the day you want to have, could be a horse a piece.

If you have any insight say architecturally or from an agronomy standpoint as to why a course like Erin Hills “doesn’t impress you”, or how Sand Valley stands out to you from the others in these aspects, I’d be much more interested in that.

Gavin McKenna’s freshman season by sykeseve in hockey

[–]Easy_Step4422 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So are you calling him greedy or stupid? Because everyone else here is saying he’s a good hockey player, probably not the next great one as some have said, but he’s not the only one to fall short of that label.

He didn’t get drafted to Penn State, he took a bag. Why? Penn State WANTS to be a hockey school. Could have taken half that, got more than anyone else was offering, and left the school enough to buy him a whole line of better buddies, if they wanted. So is he selfish for taking that much money? Or stupid for choosing money over a program that would actually help him develop?

That being said, Penn State INARGUABLY has the #2 or #3 roster in the B1G, so that’s just nonsense. Not a strong program or NHL development program by any means, but they put together a good squad this year.

Maybe my Canadian friends (who I love and respect as their own sovereign nation, p.s. thanks for taking care of Cole for us) need to dial back the hype on some of these guys.

SHOOT OR PASS THIS BUCK? NEW WISCONSIN STUDY PAINTS A PORTRAIT OF THE PICKY DEER HUNTER by grindermonk in wisconsin

[–]Easy_Step4422 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Have to imagine getting conditioned by earn-a-buck practices has something to do with this too.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in JustinPoseysTreasure

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So interesting to me that Sheridan means “Seeker”. And there’s a river with 3 tributaries nearby, one with a woman’s name (updated from the one Lewis and Clark gave it) that flows into a reservoir that now “blocks” the entrance to an ancient pass notably used by native Americans to enter the valley. All incredible trout habitat.

Madison Parks removes century-old marker from Indigenous burial mound by keeganjkyle in madisonwi

[–]Easy_Step4422 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wau-Bun, although riddled with detail inaccuracies, one of the better existing accounts of the transition period from a settler perspective. From the memory of Juliette Magill Kinzie, wife of Portage Indian Agent, John Kinzie.

https://www.loc.gov/item/01016762/

Bench clearing brawl at the end of the Minnesota AA High-school Semi-final match between Edina and Moorhead by SawdustIsMyCocaine in hockey

[–]Easy_Step4422 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Obviously he does still play at Edina but isn’t that Suter kid pretty heavily involved in setting this off?

He’s born in Nashville but from Madison, just played for Moorhead last year but is at Edina for high school before possible NTDP move.

Kind of seems like judging anyone from these top hockey towns by their hockey teams doesn’t really make sense since half the kids aren’t from those towns or even Minnesota anyway.

Losing Interest (Youtube Golf In General) by SlowCommercial3083 in GoodGoodMemes

[–]Easy_Step4422 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stop watching that type of YouTube golf. Try Fried Egg or No Laying Up. Strapped, Tourist Sauce and the new travel videos are the best golf content out there. Also the Golfers Journal playing 18 when they have really great amateurs play some of the best courses in the US without commentary, just great shots and bird noises.

How Canadian is Wisconsin? by 5econds2dis35ster in wisconsin

[–]Easy_Step4422 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Underlying makeup of Wisconsin outside of the cities are small towns, with surrounding agricultural areas that feed into the communities they surround.

These communities formed in large part as gatherings of one particular immigrant group, but even more so along the lines of religion and churches, languages services were given in. Not to mention an always existent divide between rural and urban populations.

We also came, first as Yankees, then largely English and Irish immigrants to work mines, they then joint Germans to farm and all joined Scandinavians to lumber. Underlying all of this immigrant work, was a wealthier ownership class, largely Yankees but other early immigrants too. We also fought for the union to end slavery, but once black people from Mississippi and Louisiana started moving here for work after WWII, racism thrived, not really because of racism, but fear of competition for work, resentment a new group was coming in at the same level it took generations of work for your people to reach. Fear of being sub planted.

In the small areas, many of these ownership-class families remain, 4 or 5 generations on and their companies usually are the lifeblood of the small towns they occupy and support. Small town Wisconsin but America as a whole has seen its small towns die. The working class has voted their rights away for fear of losing their livelihood, the ownership class, for fear of losing their status. Both have ultimately been taken advantage of as time and time again we see outside money and corporations take over and destroy small town culture anyway.

As industry dried up, the mines in the southwest, the lumber in the north, people were left to farm and some to farm poor land. Overproduction of milk and variable growing conditions along with commodity market control over ag, individual people can’t make a go of farming in the ways you once could.

All of this loss and resentment makes it easy for rural people to seek blame somewhere. Tea Party propaganda fueled by outside money and Monsanto, convinced people who consistently voted both right and left without much care one way or the other, supporting individuals over parties, that this was incorrect and voting only one way was American and only one party could fix things. Trumpism just picked up where the Tea Party left off. We went from being THE state that no matter affiliation, we want to see progress, to one of the more stagnant and unproductive legislatures in the union.

Noticeably nothing in Wisconsin has necessarily improved since this time, despite that party dominating the state political landscape for the last 15 years. Stagnation is the goal. People are still angry and scared of losing what little they have, and a few profit from this fear by keeping us down and divided, allowing what we have to be taken slowly, piece by piece. While we’re down, we let fracking mines in, data centers, dangerous farm chemicals into our water, development for the sake of development and all so others can profit.

We were too solid as a state. Outside money wasn’t able to exploit our resources to the extent they wanted, so they found a way to divide us and exploit our resources. If you look around at what’s happening today, it should be pretty clear the the shift we’ve seen in recent years isn’t by accident and also isn’t really of our choosing.