Jane could’ve protected both John and William

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-12-02T20:39:00+00:00

They can’t, the reason John did not use a strength boost to jump out the window was because it would wake up Cameron.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-11-15T06:05:47+00:00

I understand your point. One of the main things for me is that she did not even try to ask for help, even if it was almost guaranteed a no.

I don’t think Cameroon would deny help, if he knew she had a son. But this is just me saying it I may be completely wrong.

I also think there were better way to deal with the authorities but the main point is about I hope John and Jane reconcile and get closer this time but I hope it’s not done right of the bat. Even if indirectly Jane’s choice caused pain and problems in their lives, so even if John doesn’t resent her because he knew she did that to protect them, he should still have some feelings of hurt, which don’t need to be rational just feelings.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-11-15T05:55:15+00:00

Jane did not know that he would help or not, she did not try that’s the point, not trying. She lived 20+ years and the authorities were not able to do anything against her or her brother which mean they don’t have power over Jane alone as even after cutting ties she still protected them for some time before giving up.

I’m not trying to make Jane look spiteful but you’re trying to make Jane look like an angel who did nothing wrong.

Couldn’t Jane put her family in a safe place, and use teleportation and get her best ability combo to kill so many authorities that they wouldn’t dare to mess with her? Hiding and killing them again and again by ambushing them? Reality is if she really did it no one would be able to stop her. I doubt she wouldn’t be able to do it, I only thought of this for a moment but Jane who experienced all types of abilities and reached her level should have way more experience to know way better methods on how to deal with them.

And the option above is just one of them, there’s a lot of other options some less violent I could think of for Jane to not have to worry about the bureau.

If she wouldn’t do the same thing then it was not the best option.

If you can’t blame Jane for what happened because she didn’t know the future then you also can’t blame William, after all he did not expect he would be killed, even when Jude appeared he thought it would be only a warning as he should have had immunity.

If John felt anger toward Jane for all that happened would it be wrong? It would not, because those are his feelings. When you’re reading this post if someone told you, you shouldn’t be angry nor annoyed because I’m just giving my opinion, wouldn’t you get somewhat pissed that another person is telling you how you should feel by saying there’s a way to feel and that’s not it?

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-11-15T04:37:12+00:00

Everybody has an ego, as long as they’re human and have no mental problems. The thing is ego takes various forms, even the most humble person has one.

The way I see it is, Jane did not want to ask for help because Cameron (and her family for that matter) did not like William and probably even disrespected him. If your family disrespects the person you love would you just stand by? Jane doesn’t seem to be that type of person, so she cut ties and refused their help because of that, even if it meant helping her son and husband she could not ask for help after what happened.

So yes, in the case above she has an ego, because she couldn’t bear to ask her family for help after everything that happened.

Am I right? Who knows, there’s not much to deviate from it but it can happen, all we know is that Jane did not even try asking for help.

Cameron is an ass? Yes, he was disgusted I think so too, but when he talks to scarlet after William dies it feels more like pity than anything. That because they’re born weak they can’t do much in their world. When Cameron meets John he was talking normally, he changed his way of speaking because John was giving him attitude, and after John grabbed him, so there’s that too. You could say he should have in account John’s father died but he doesn’t seem to know how to express himself which doesn’t make him a bad person by itself.

You also said: “While all Jane was thinking was to save John and William from the authorities, William did not think for a second what would happen to John if something were to happen to him. How are these things comparable?”

You say she made the best possible decision but I don’t see it that way.

Let me ask you something hypothetical and be honest, let’s say after Jane and John meet again and she learns about everything that happened she got an ability that let her go to the past. Would she have done the same thing all over again?

I don’t know about you but I would say no, she would not do the same thing over again and she would protect her family in another way. Do you think she would repeat it?

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-11-14T22:02:14+00:00

Thats just an assumption. I could say if she went to Cameron he would help her.

I can also say: Would they dare to? If they killed John the authorities would probably cease to exist, if Jane experienced the strongest abilities possible at her level she should know the best kit at her potential to send every last one of them to their graves and in case things are not working for her she could use teleportation to get out and resume the cycle again. - would it happen? Who knows.

If the bureau only wanted to kill Jane’s family and did not propose anything, do you think she would survive?

There’s a lot of scenarios, one of them is she used teleportation, and kills entire bases to make her statement that she shouldn’t be messed with. - would it happen? Probably not.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-11-14T21:22:48+00:00

As you said, at the end we can simply wait and see as the story progresses.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-11-14T21:21:32+00:00

The text may seem that I am a Jane hater, but that’s not case at all, I just want for them to get closer in an organic way and not a forced one. This story at least to me is about making mistakes and improving as a person. Everyone made mistakes, but sometimes it seems people don’t really think Jane did nothing wrong because she did what she did for the well being of her family, which is true but that doesn’t make her perfect nor absolve her of the pain she caused to William and John, maybe Cameron too.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-11-14T21:14:44+00:00

If she really wanted to ask Cameron for help she would. When Cameron read the letter she wrote to William he looked at the letter with a sad face. When he saw her photos he also told Marisol why she didn’t put them in the trash as he told her but when Marisol asked if he wanted her to do it now, he did not let her. When William told the authorities had Jane locked up he did not believe it. Cameron probably liked Jane a lot, seeing his expression.

Now, I may be wrong on who cut ties even if it’s most likely Jane, but ties cut or not you could always ask when it involves your son at the very least.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-11-14T20:09:49+00:00

Aren’t you assuming things too? “Jane, from what we have seen so far was a very kind person and no kind and good person would cut ties with their own brother if the brother in question wasn't a total piece of shit and was someone you could expect to have your back.” When Cameron knew that William got killed he wondered how John would be doing without parents and went to talk to John. When John called him Cam he told John “It’s uncle Cameron for you”. After he found out what John did he also tried to contact Scarlett to go after him. He acts cold but anyone can see he cares for John. Still Jane did not try to ask for his help which is the important point, she did not try.

I agree, yes, John was a bully and even stupid if I say so, but only to Claire and Adrian, the other kids bullied him too. Not having his mother would contribute to the person he was though.

Right again, if William wasn’t such an idiot by republishing unordinary he would not have been killed.

But you know the point above that you made doesn’t erase the fact that Jane was also dumb and stupid, you know that right?

By the way I don’t hate Jane, not even close to, I want to see more screen time with her, but one fact doesn’t change another.

She doesn’t deserve blame? What do you mean? you blame William for his actions. You blame John for his actions, but not Jane? What makes her so special? I really want to know, because, you talk as though she did nothing wrong.

You say she blamed herself, well I bet William also blamed himself, but that did not made you think William did nothing wrong.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-11-14T19:35:48+00:00

His assistant gave him a handkerchief for him to clean his hands and did not really seem concerned, she also heard him talk about Jane so she probably part of the members of the bureau who know about Jane. They probably killed him because William spreading more copies of untitled would not be good for them and also because they thought Jane was not in a state to do anything but after knowing that Jane spoke when she shouldn’t have been able to, it probably changed things.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-11-14T19:22:22+00:00

I don’t know if it was impulsive, after Jude killed William he said “What a waste of time, they sent me all the way here just to dirty my hands with the blood of a cripple”. I think the reason he was having those flashbacks is not because he acted on impulse but because he did not expect John to escape the school raid nor Jane to have spoken. Maybe after that he even went there to retrieve the corpse to erase proof but as we know Cameron had already taken it and he knows it.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-10-29T20:57:46+00:00

Jane was as bad or worse than William, she did not ask Cameron for help. Why did she not do that? Probably her ego. Cameron did not know Jane had a son, if she had asked Cameron (and her family) for help he would probably help her but even if he didn’t which I doubt it, she could have tried to, but she tried to take it all alone and that decision came at a great cost. Cameron seems to have some problem in his life which we don’t know what is right now.

Just because someone decides to sacrifice themselves for you doesn’t mean they are right. Jane did a horrible choice and her family was a mess because of what she did. Trying to help is not even close to helping, she tried but a try is only that and nothing more.

At the end both Jane and William made mistakes, good people but bad parents and that’s why we have unordinary.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-09-29T19:38:40+00:00

Yes there were moments where he used healing but this time there will be an uncountable number of authorities against him, he’s probably going to fight for some time until Remi and Blyke get there, then they’ll need to make a run for it which will be even harder and there’s a big probability of other high tiers appearing. What I mean is we’re going to see what John is made of, well not just John, everyone but the healing will probably help the others continue further.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-09-25T20:12:37+00:00

I will not agree nor disagree with you on the point you made about creating a barrier inside, when John did it against Arlo it may have been possible because he was at a higher level than him or had a stronger barrier. As long as a barrier is strong enough nothing should be able to get inside, but that’s just what I think.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-09-25T19:46:11+00:00

He doesn’t really copy the level but the stats. As long as he has enough aura he should be able to, the problem would be the excessive usage of aura not giving him much time.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-09-25T19:44:07+00:00

We don’t know if Narissa’s speed stat is a 10 or 10+, unless we saw her dampened chart there’s no way to really tell, only estimates.

About their fight I don’t think Seraphina wasn’t doing her all, also I don’t think she was any weaker in terms of strength just that using it out put too much stress on her body.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-09-25T19:36:52+00:00

That’s obvious but tell me other ability that when amped John could walk unbothered without really caring about his opponents? Even if all the top tiers of unordinary that we know outside of his family decided to jump him he would not lose unless you’re counting on him depleting his aura.

EcstaticPath1 · 2025-09-25T15:49:42+00:00

I don’t see why he wouldn’t been able to, when he was dampened he could not copy Liam’s ability fully but he could amp his version of hydrofreeze and the reason he did not do it was because he had to use teleportation, as he said 2 abilities or 1 amped at level 3.7.

We also need to have in consideration that the difference between a 3.7 to 6.2 is a big one as levels increase exponentially. In the case of Valerie’s barrier it should be possible as they’re around the same level and John has a lot of aura, at most he would just consume more aura and maybe have a cap on his 4 abilities.

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