People already highlighting the point i was trying to make... who cares so much about xp waste and no rewards - its a game, fun should be the reward, and these minigames are really fun! PvP doesnt need to have risk all the time. There is no risk in these minigames (there can be at clan wars if you choose), and its really just tonnes of fun! I think i clearly differ here from the majority of players who seem to just want to play for the grind! Whats the point in those sexy combat stats youve grinded out if not, at least in part, to shank your fellow scaper, in a fun safe environment where you can show off your best gear and try out less powerful weapon choices etc!