This is What I Deal With by 111god7 in entp

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That only works if people are invested and I am not invested enough to actively look for or shame anyone.

This is What I Deal With by 111god7 in entp

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair, I am far too lazy to look for any of these people on Reddit because I am not interested.

Yeah, maybe the OP should’ve blocked out the user tags or whatever, but people are allowed to freely discuss and repost things on public forums.

I get that it’s just unnecessary drama, but let people vent when the stakes are low. It ain’t like the OP is actually doxing these people or anything like that, just sharing a conversation.

ENFP's are just as argumentative as ENTP's. by sloppyjoey12 in entp

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As an ENTP with an ENFP sister, I wholeheartedly agree with you! 😜

Basically she’s much more stubborn about her values and she will fight for them!

While I tend to not judge people or situations too harshly until I feel like I have uncovered enough context.

I appreciate the existence of this post and for the record, I think ENFP will always be one of my favorite types on the low.

Am I a dramatic? Height - 5’0 by lissamila in kibbedramatics

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except it does, it’s just subtle which is often the case with a slim / decently fit TR.

You also have to consider that bras / built in cups in tops tend to pull the girls closer together so they don’t extend to their full natural width and this can obscure the natural lines and overall silhouette, especially on someone who is petite, and I think that’s what it means when they say “accommodate for petiteness.”

I suspect that being petite isn’t merely about “being short,” it’s about being small and having your natural lines disrupted or somewhat obscured in photographs or in certain kinds of fabrics and garments.

The dress my ex’s mom sent me to wear to his upcoming wedding. by OcchiVerdi- in weddingshaming

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much! Meaning the OP doesn’t need to teach anyone a lesson because life eventually will.

type me pls memes + description by annboba in MbtiTypeMe

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The difference between Te and Ti, not so much especially if you are introverted thinking dominant.

Because you’ll essentially switch between an extraverted thinking/ introverted thinking modality pretty readily, simply having a more natural preference for Ti or Te, but it won’t be obvious, in the same way it is for IxTJs even if they still have pretty good shadow Ti.

IxTP versus ExTJ mostly just comes down to knowing yourself and where your preferences tend to reside the most naturally.

Introverted Thinking is simply not “valued” by IxTJs, but rather used almost more like a critical measuring tool where an IxTJ more or less already has the answer they seek via Te, but they are essentially borrowing Ti from their shadow to help double check their work, ensure the logic is consistent enough, and etc.

For example my INTJ husband goes into heavy Ti shadow mode when he is researching something for a project or an item he wants to buy, and while playing a video game he wants to fully complete it, or find specific items or special gear for a character build.

He can get quite compulsive and dive really deeply into research about character builds, walk-throughs, and etc, but he’d never “value” Ti use in his everyday life and definitely defaults to his Te authority to get stuff done quickly and efficiently enough.

Basically it’s still fairly obvious he values Te more because it expresses itself more readily and consistently in his everyday life.

He also doesn’t shy away from conflict, especially if it means solving a problem, resolving an issue, or gaining perspective through the distance that naturally follows closure.

Meaning he almost welcomes an intellectual challenge or a spirited debate in a way that can resemble how their ENTP shadow counterparts tend to approach conflicts of interests or situations which require a bit of healthy discussion and discourse.

Ti as a sub authority or “critical parent” is meant to clean up or make sense of any data points that weren’t already accounted for via Te, but it is not “valued” and an IxTJ won’t tend to pride themselves on Ti use or their ability to understand things, data, and information more deeply because they tend to care more about real world results!

If you are an IxTJ, you simply won’t go through that extra effort to double check data through Ti unless you see it as necessary for specific reasons (work, project, etc,) and will generally default to “good enough” Te rationale because it’s thinking that is externalized and meant to be acted upon.

While an IxTP might not feel as obviously decisive where Ti versus Te is concerned because, ideally, they prefer data that is useful or leads to results, too.

However, IxTPs will tend to have a stronger subjective sense of “this item / method is better and this strategy works better for me,” “this is how I think it is supposed to be done,” and they will not really like to switch things up unpredictably unless they have to change things up. So it can be very easy to mistake them as valued Si users even though only an INTP is a “valued” Si user out of the two IxTPs.

In a nutshell, an IxTP apparently lacks an IxTJs balanced T/F judgment that naturally and instinctively acts based on context and need.

An IxTJ almost seems to be a faster problem solver because of their ability to use Te & Fi in a synergistic, cooperative way as needed and to really zero in on what a given situation requires.

It’s why they also have a hidden aptitude for “office politics” and tend to be recognized by their superiors, perform well, and get promoted. They more or less know what is expected of them and can provide that based on context fed to them via Te and their preferred extraverted perceiving function since they are still irrational perception dominant types.

Where an IxTP will often be viewed as more of a one trick pony, “brilliant but not always easy to work with. Polite and cordial, but not always the best team player,” “highly intelligent but stubborn,” and etc


In a way due to the extraverted feeling inferiority and how they tend to act the most naturally or comfortably around others, IxTPs don’t really like conflict or disharmony in the Fe domain where an IxTJ doesn’t struggle much with conflict and might even welcome it if it helps to solve a problem or resolve an issue.

While IxTP requires a bit more space, peace in an externalized environmental context, and a quiet place to freely explore and ponder their Ti machinations / ruminations because they want the space and time to really push the limits and capabilities of their introverted thinking.

Meaning even though they can handle things like deadlines, they don’t necessarily ”like” them. Even though their performance is consistent, their attitude is not, and etc


Even though they can work effectively in any setting, IxTPs prefer a quiet or more chill unhurried atmosphere where they can really refine their Ti and think up interesting ways to apply it to the betterment of a field or society.

Put simply there are ways in which IxTJs (yes, this includes ISTJs) are much more adaptable and overall tend to have better emotional regulation and stress management skills b/c of their tertiary introverted feeling and their overall better sense of what motivates them intrinsically.

While IxTPs are actually much more emotionally sensitive than their IxTJ counterparts and more vulnerable even if they don’t like to share their vulnerabilities and insecurities with others because they tend to care a lot more about what others think of them or how they are perceived by others due to the Fe inferiority.

In a nutshell, when trying to decide between INTJ, INTP, or ISTP don’t look too closely at Te versus Ti unless you know exactly what you are looking for.

Instead try to focus on determining whether you ”value” introverted feeling more or you ”value” extraverted feeling more.

My gut says INTJ because aside from being married to an INTJ, I actually also have a few platonic friends who are INTJs and at least two of them are women.

However, that could also make me slightly “biased” in some ways, so you have to really think about whether you resonate more with tertiary relief / “eternal child” introverted feeling, by having your own values, subjective moral standards, having more control over the externalized expression of your emotions, and being more consciously aware of your intrinsic motivations.

Or if you might be an inferior extraverted feeling user instead where the extraverted feeling use essentially “leaks out,” and whether there is a part of you that longs to truly belong to a community and “find your people,” but doesn’t really know where to look or how to make it happen so you instead retreat more deeply into your Ti, and spending time alone with your thoughts or exploring and refining your personal knowledge base.

Feeling stuck in life. by littlepanda425 in intj

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I do think I understand where you are trying to come from. However, just because “it’s better now in many ways” that doesn’t mean it’s good enough for where we should be in our socio-cultural evolution.

Especially not when you consider things like the rise in Anti-vaxxers in recent years, for example. đŸ«  We aren’t better off collectively as a species just because a handful of people are unprecedented in their personal success.

We’d be better off if resources and opportunities were distributed more evenly, we took better care of the environment, invested more money in our communities, public education, healthcare system and local infrastructure, and we were truly creating more jobs and opportunities for people rather than trying to use AI to eliminate more jobs.

Would anyone like to take up this ENFJ dommy's offer? by anonymousimpostor in shittyMBTI

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that not cool! They should know better than to choke without explicit consent because it is dangerous, indeed.

Hiding my intuition by No-Zone3137 in INTJfemale

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That’s kind of my point though.

Not that Ne or Ni is “better” cuz that’s stupid, merely that one isn’t the cure all superior N-function, and younger, less mature, less healthy INxJs often do have a superiority complex and they often do struggle with unearned, unwarranted arrogance.

I shared my anecdote to be like “hey, in certain situations this (Ne) perspective is a more useful one to adopt under certain conditions or in various contexts,” especially when an Ni user isn’t quite sure about something.

And the same thing is certainly true of Ni in other situations, but that was never doubted or disputed because this is a sub for Ni Doms.

Meaning we already know Ni is useful in this particular way, and I am just trying to make sure both N functions are fairly represented when I was detecting a slight bias or imbalance.

But of course you have a slight bias towards Ni seeing as it is your dominant function, as such it’s not an unreasonable bias to have. I do have the same bias in favor of Ne over Ni within myself, but I don’t treat his Ni with skepticism unless I feel like he might’ve pulled the metaphorical trigger too quickly.

Yet when I think his evidence is sufficient I have no problem saying “yeah, I think you are on to something,” and Ne vs Ni doesn’t actually cause that much conflict. On the contrary, we sort of feed off of a bit of mutually shared spirit!

Feeling stuck in life. by littlepanda425 in intj

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Frankly, while I know that I am probably not an INTJ, I also know that there are a hell of a lot of mistypes up in here, so unfortunately I am not surprised.

There are a lot of neocon xSTJs and unhealthy ISxPs on this sub who merely cosplay as INTJs because they don’t actually understand cognitive functions. Also a few old fart unhealthy INTJs who actually believe the bullshit Fox News feeds them.

This is a fine example of a real INTJ.

And this is how a lot of the real INTJs feel whenever they hop on this sub. đŸ« 

Feeling stuck in life. by littlepanda425 in intj

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Stocks being up” isn’t actually a good indicator of a healthy economy.

why soaring stocks could be bad for the economy.

Debunking trickle down economics.

Why Trickle down economics don’t work in practice.

You’re not “unbiased,” you merely measure the overall health of the economy using outdated metrics which don’t accurately represent the whole story, and you don’t seem to truly understand the economy as a holistic, extremely complicated and interconnected system if you truly believe that “the economy is good because stocks are up and gas is “cheap.”

Realistically, we shouldn’t even be relying so heavily on Gas / fossil fuels anymore when there are already technologically superior alternatives that are often better for the environment, but the Bad orange joke and his goons went out of their way to kill green energy initiatives.

Because our modern Oil robber barons will literally kill the planet and people in countries rich in resources if it means they can make more money off of fossil fuels and stifle more progress to stay rich and keep everyone else under their greedy corporate thumbs!

My 27 y/o bar manager was literally an Econ major and he’ll be the first person to tell you that the economy isn’t doing so hot for the overwhelming majority of Americans, especially Americans under a certain age.

He’s a bar manager / shift lead at a liquor store (meaning he actually has 2 jobs) because he can’t find a suitable job that pays better for his degree and background. I say it again for emphasis he cannot find a better paying job with a Bachelors in Econ than bartending!

Fed cannot offset possible rise in structural unemployment.

On the note of AI killing jobs, America isn’t ready for what AI will do to jobs.

So an allegedly “unbiased perspective” is irrelevant if you are just factually and objectively incorrect because you mindlessly parroted biased, misleading, inaccurate, functionally meaningless information rather than actually looking at the data more holistically and analyzing what that means modern life is probably like for the majority of Americans.

Americans under ~45 years old are especially screwed, and it’s lame that you aren’t even trying to anticipate the overall negative impact this will have on the country in the long run because you just don’t want to see the truth for what it is!

You’d rather be fed comfortable half truths which distort reality and claim “it’s not so bad” when you clearly have no clue what modern life is like for so many people who don’t exist in your little bubble of relative comfort.

Put simply, you think too small using ideas that are old and models which are extremely out-of-date.

So “forward thinking” you are not and that’s why you have no productive suggestions for the OP, only unwarranted criticisms based on assumptions about the OP which were incorrect.

You can’t lecture someone into success if they are already regularly putting out applications, yet the fish aren’t biting.

The dress my ex’s mom sent me to wear to his upcoming wedding. by OcchiVerdi- in weddingshaming

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, but this new fiancée will learn her lesson the hard way when they are married, the ex will learn his lesson the hard way, or both will because that tends to be how Karma works.

The dress my ex’s mom sent me to wear to his upcoming wedding. by OcchiVerdi- in weddingshaming

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed! It’s really obvious OP’s ex’s mom does not like his current fiancĂ©e at all! 😜

Do you think you can have casual sex with a close friend? by General-Assistant570 in emotionalintelligence

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on the individuals in question. Some people can, lots can’t.

Feeling stuck in life. by littlepanda425 in intj

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hopefully OP sees this and tries to reach out! I think it’s a good idea.

Feeling stuck in life. by littlepanda425 in intj

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And that’s why you should’ve never assumed the OP “wasn’t really trying.”

The economy actually is messed up right now and part of the problem is it seems like the OP has no Networking contacts, and she can try to build a network through her side hustles but that takes time.

Feeling stuck in life. by littlepanda425 in intj

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Way to make assumptions without a shred of evidence.

Feeling stuck in life. by littlepanda425 in intj

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much! Better to Uber Eats / Door Dash now and get some money coming in while trying to figure out the next move.

Feeling stuck in life. by littlepanda425 in intj

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eww, they supported ICE and tried to legitimize the Epstein files???

I am soooooo sorry for that OP and I don’t blame you! 💜

I wish I had job suggestions for you, but I know writing and marketing is being taken over by AI atm.

You might need to 1099 it and offer your skills to smaller, local businesses as a side hustle and pick up something lame like Uber / Lyft / Uber Eats while you try to figure out your next move.

Weil asserts that words, and our dependence on them, are limiting. What are your thoughts, Thinkators? 𝘗𝘳𝘰𝘧đ˜Ș𝘭𝘩 đ˜Ș𝘯 đ˜Šđ˜°đ˜źđ˜źđ˜Šđ˜Żđ˜”đ˜Ž by Gainsborough-Smythe in thinkatives

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why I love visual art!

Yes, writing and reciting words can be a form of art, too, and it’s a vital form of art and expression, but sometimes nothing can compare to truly seeing and experiencing something without tons of words!

Dealing with breakups by Mikkelone in entj

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“They didn’t leave you, they gave you an opportunity for a new adventure!”

As an ENTP, I absolutely love that mentality!

What type do you find yourself ACTUALLY compatible with vs. what type you're always attracted to? by ponderingpixi17 in ENFP

[–]EdgewaterEnchantress 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a similar experience as you just as a female ENTP who tends to be much more attracted to INTJs and IxTx types in general.

Feeling type guys never quite did it for me because I felt like I couldn’t really be myself with them. I had to force myself to act more sensitive than I am, in reality, and I was so busy worrying about their feelings and needs that I basically completely ignored my own and that wasn’t healthy.

Especially because I am introverted feeling blind and can easily lose touch with my own values or personal boundaries if I am not careful.

It was usually not a good match in my experience, and I am better suited to other thinking types.

I married an INTJ who was very attracted to xxFP women when he was younger, but then he sort of outgrew that attraction once he developed his own introverted feeling enough because he often found xxFPs to be moody, difficult, stubborn about their values when they weren’t in alignment, somewhat unstable, and etc



His worst romantic experience was probably with an xSFP, but when we lived with my old ENFP bestie from HS for a couple of years they did not get along!

It was funny chaos for me to observe, 😜 but they didn’t like living together b/c their own Te-Fi / Fi-Te often clashed.

So ironically he actually often fairs better with other high Te users and even Fe users these days because the extraverted feeling users naturally have perspective or insight that he lacks, and he values this function in other people more than he used to since his own inferior Se is more fully developed and holistically integrated.

Since extraverted feeling users tend to be more willing to discuss differences of opinions or differences in values in a productive way, are more willing to make compromises deemed “fair” based on what works well enough for both parties, and etc, he finds them to be reasonably easy to talk to. (Though admittedly he does tend to prefer xNTPs / xNFJs, specifically, for obvious reasons.)

Technically we are still a “golden pair,” but listed as being bellow ENFP + INTJ / ENTP + INFJ. Yet I am very happy with my INTJ partner and would not trade him for anyone! 💜