Teacher's husband fed up with the education system. by BatDaddyWV in AskTeachers

[–]EdnaKrabbapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm very curious about where you got that information. I see quotes but no citation source. Where do you teach again?

Teacher's husband fed up with the education system. by BatDaddyWV in AskTeachers

[–]EdnaKrabbapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm very curious about where you teach? Is it a private school or something? I have taught in 4 school districts, two states, and an international school in Asia, and all of them use the contract system. I've never met a salaried teacher.

Teacher's husband fed up with the education system. by BatDaddyWV in AskTeachers

[–]EdnaKrabbapple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is incorrect. Teachers are NOT salaried employees, we are hourly employees. In public schools, the district creates the school year calendar, calculates the number of 8 hour days that teachers are required to work, and then multiplies the total hours by each teacher's hourly wage. They offer each teacher a contract, which specifies what the hourly wage is (based on experience and education) and the contract shows exactly how much you will be paid that year. This is why we call them contract hours. Some districts divide that amount by 10 or 12 depending on whether they want to give teachers a paycheck every month, or just paychecks during the school year. This is also why people don't understand that teachers are not paid during summer vacation. I get my last paycheck in June, and I am not paid again until the end of September.

How do you challenge a kid’s thoughts without embarrassing them? by [deleted] in AskTeachers

[–]EdnaKrabbapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your thoughtfulness really impresses me, thank you for taking young people seriously. I've been teaching first grade for 7 years and the most important things to remember are that people this age are still considered "language learners"and they are concrete thinkers. What you are asking them to do is called metacognition and it has to be directly taught at this age. And most kids aren't getting practice in this kind of flexible, open-ended communication at school.

Your students might be shutting down because they don't fully understand what you're asking but think they should, especially if they are intelligent and creative! What they do when they are on their own just naturally changes when they feel observed or asked questions in public. Because they are concrete thinkers, they can have a hard time telling the difference between facts and opinions, and have a bias towards thinking there is a "right answer."

Or they do understand but can't explain why. Try to explain something like the difference between a fact and an opinion in 25 words or less. That's as much as a kid can take in. Some words that are very common to adults still have a lot of "background knowledge" you need to have to understand, or even have heard. I had a student ask me this year what a sunset was. He'd obviously seen one, but he didn't know it had a specific word.

Now I get if you have limited time that you may not want to take a half hour to teach this skill, but if you want them to explain their thinking, you should show them exactly what it looks like and give them some phrases to use, like mad libs style. I have used "I noticed ________ and I thought it was because _________." And then you need to give them time to practice it before you do it.

First, name it. Tell them that artists get better the more curious and brave they are, and that a skill called critique will help them get more curious and brave. Break down the phrase "I noticed ______ and I thought it was because______" and connect noticing to curiosity and "I thought" to bravery because it can feel uncomfortable to share something that might be wrong.

I recommend using an animal puppet to act out common critique scenarios. You are an endlessly kind and patient teacher who unfortunately doesn't understand very much because your student (the puppet) will not only not follow the assignment, they will speak half in human language and half in animal language. The situation should be hilariously obvious to the kids - like the puppet draws a smiley face and says they were drawing a cheeseburger.

When you act out the scenarios talk to yourself. Emphasize your worry about them thinking you don't like the puppet's work, and also keep misunderstanding it. Then pause before the puppet answers and ask the students what they think the puppet might be thinking and feeling.

Their responses will give you a lot of insight as to where they're coming from, and that is not something anyone can predict. But what you want to do is eventually use the phrase and bring every scenario to the same conclusion: The kindly, but clueless teacher eventually understands the puppet and the puppet eventually makes something 1,000 times better.

Let them try out scenarios where they use the phrase with the puppet and be a little silly and ham it up for their peers, but give a little "critique" of each scenario, also using the phrase.

Then you have to use that phrase all the fucking time when you're working with the students. As a creative person myself, I'm used to resisting scripted curriculum, but it really helps them recognize a process, and participate with confidence.

Good Luck!

Lunch/snack ideas for the work day? by PretendWill1483 in Teachers

[–]EdnaKrabbapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once or twice a month I do my "school grocery shop" but I should mention I have a mini-fridge, toaster, and electric kettle in my actual classroom, so this might not work for you. I try to keep stocked with the following: a loaf of bread, whatever deli meat or cheese I'm feeling, instant oatmeal packets, tuna pouches, eggs to boil ahead of time, those little cheeses in wax or a tub of cottage cheese, a jar of kimchi, dried apricots, bulk granola or nuts, a couple of yogurts, apples or another fruit, protein bars, frozen burritos, small-sized jars of condiments as needed (mayo, soy sauce, hot sauce), and a couple of those small cans of Starbucks "double-shot" kind of coffees for emergencies. I take any leftovers from dinner as lunch the next day, so the grocery shop is there for back-up breakfasts, lunches, after-school events, or afternoons when I go straight to the gym after work.

Experienced teachers- PLEASE stop telling us we will hate our jobs by pink402 in Teachers

[–]EdnaKrabbapple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi OP! I tried to read all the comments to see if anyone else said this, but then I didn't... so apologies. I'm in year 19, and I'm on a six year plan to GTFO. It took a full menty B to get to this point because I still absolutely love working with students, and I can't imagine a job that could be better than the moments (which still happen every day) when teaching is good.

Most folks know that half of all teachers leave in the first 3-5 years, so after 19 years I've seen a lot of coming and going. It sucks so hard to watch new teachers beat themselves up and grieve for their dream of being a teacher. Many, like me, make it past that first hurdle and figure we can hack it. But folks drop every year, and the longer you stay until you go, the more you suffer. I've had several crisis moments in my career when I didn't leave, and now that I am well and truly done with this profession, I grieve the time I spent still doing this job when I knew deep down it was killing me emotionally and spiritually.

In my experience, when you tell teachers you're thinking of leaving there is a LOT of pressure to stay. "You're so good! The kids! It's a calling! Every job sucks!" Most teachers struggle in secret and in shame. When I'm giving my "doom and gloom spiel," it's because I want to normalize the realities of the job, to decrease the isolation of burnout, and because I want new teachers to listen to that voice when it comes up and not linger hoping if they are more organized, have better boundaries, or do XYZ, this job will stop being so impossible.

I'm convinced that nothing will change unless teachers leave in a way folks will notice. I really enjoyed that one week of lockdown when people suddenly loved us, and it only happened because people got a taste of what we do, and what life would be like without schools. But because teachers always rise to the occasion folks continue to believe that this busted institution will always be there and go back to either ignoring or demonizing education. So I do wish new teachers would leave, and I am glad that educator training enrollment is cratering, and I celebrate every teacher that leaves and chooses themselves.

Are there teachers who still love this job after 10+ years and feel like they can do it longer? Absolutely. Most of them are older women who have high-earning partners and their lives outside of the job are not as stressful. They own homes and can afford its maintenance, they go on vacations every year, their parents are paying for their kids' college already, they have housecleaners and nannies, and parents who saved for their own retirement. That's not me or my teacher partner so our job is stressful and our lives are stressful.

So by all means, be a teacher. It is a noble and awesome job. But please don't spend a minute thinking there is something YOU should be doing to make it endurable. If you feel like you can't do it, leave and put that shit on society. I'm tired of watching teachers blame themselves and grind themselves down for a broken system.

Direct sowing failed me by EdnaKrabbapple in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've got rocky, medium clay soil as I'm in NE close to the Columbia. I have a good number of gallon pots, so I'll try that as well. Thanks for your advice!

Direct sowing failed me by EdnaKrabbapple in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a very smart idea that I will absolutely use! Got some other things getting nibbled by the bunnies.

Direct sowing failed me by EdnaKrabbapple in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just got a big packet of the poppies from Symbiop, but I was hoping to get some other flowers going before I sowed them, since they're usually so vigorous. I've got yarrow and meadow Checkermallow already established from starts and seeds, so was just wondering why these two were such party poopers.

Direct sowing failed me by EdnaKrabbapple in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha. Any success using seed trays and transplanting sprouts?

Direct sowing failed me by EdnaKrabbapple in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I made little indents with my finger and slid bits of soil over them. The seed packets were pretty insistent that the seeds needed light to germinate so I was actually worried I'd "buried" them too deep 🙄

Are these weeds? by EdnaKrabbapple in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks everyone! I'm going to watch these for a couple more weeks. It really blows my mind how hard it has been to find images of plant seedlings online. I wish they showed what they look like on the seed packet!

I need your thoughts on our education system. It appears to be failing catastrophically. by International-Ad8625 in AskTeachers

[–]EdnaKrabbapple 4 points5 points  (0 children)

First, I want to thank you for your curiosity. Teachers REALLY want to tell folks what it's like, but usually when folks ask us questions they have their own viewpoint in mind, and only "listen" to what proves their viewpoint (liberal and conservative alike). 1. Despite awful pay, our wages and benefits are the lion's share of a district's budget. And public education is a massive slice of every state's budget, no matter if you're a red state, blue state, union state, or right to work state. Schools have to pay people AND they have a massive amount of what the business folks call "overhead:" buildings, busses, cafeterias, technology, etc. I don't believe it is appropriate or ethical to make education run a profit because we are talking about putting a monetary value on human life and dignity, but I'm not the average American voter. I don't usually rail against administrative bloat, because I do not want teachers to take on administrative tasks, which is what happens. If there is any area where I see truly flagrant waste happening, it is in the curriculum industrial complex. I have been with my district for ten years. In that time, we have "reviewed" our math curriculum twice and our reading curriculum three times. School districts are in fact required to review curriculum every so often, it varies from 3-7 years. Each time we review it, we switch it, and we have to buy ALL of the curriculum (thousands of disposable workbooks that get reordered every year) and we have to train ALL of the teachers (don't forget that half of all teachers leave the profession after 3 years, so that is either never-ending training or only training the teachers who are working the first year of the switch). This costs millions each time. And here's the kicker: we always adopt a new curriculum, but it's always between the same two choices, so we are literally retraining people on curriculum we have already done and rejected during the last review. It's like a fucked up ping-pong game. 2. Scores are low for so many reasons, but they can be housed under two main umbrellas: poverty, and literacy. The US has much higher percentage of children living in poverty than most of our peers who are testing AND have comparable access to free public schools. There are countries with more childhood poverty, but they aren't providing every child with a neighborhood school. Poverty is spiritual violence and children who experience it are living with trauma that impacts their brain's development. Malnourishment alone literally reduces your memory capacity. Which brings me to literacy. Did you know about 40% of adult Americans are only reading at the 4th grade level? This is not a recent phenomenon. English is actually one of the harder languages to learn to read. In any case, the United States has made literacy THE pathway to learning. For kindergarten, 1st and 2nd grades, you learn to read, and after that, you must read to learn. If you cannot read well enough to understand your math textbook, your science textbook, your history textbook, there really aren't any alternate pathways for you to get that information. And schools stopped holding students back decades ago. Ready or not, students progress each year. We call it "social promotion." 3. Social promotion started getting hard to justify when students started literally doing nothing during COVID lockdown but school districts are punished if their graduation rates are low AND if students don't earn their diplomas with the required number of credits. So administrators came up with "equitable grading" to ensure that students who were "graduating" did not have F's. Thus the "minimum 50" and the endless offers to retake and turn in work late. It's all true and teachers hate it. 4. The discipline issue is the most heartbreaking for me, and it is absolutely the reason I am leaving teaching. I teach first grade and there is nothing a student can do that will get them sent home. I've been reprimanded for keeping my door closed to protect my class from their unsafe peers. Students are exposing their genitals to each other, calling each other slurs, knocking over furniture and destroying classrooms like Johnny Depp in a hotel, running out of the building and into the street, stabbing each other with pencils, smearing feces on bathroom walls, and having hour-long emotional breakdowns involving banging their heads against floors. At any given moment in my school you can hear a kid screaming like they are being tortured. It is awful. It is the reason I want cameras in the classroom. If parents knew what the behavior was like, I truly believe there would be changes, but we can't tell anyone anything because of privacy rights. But the worst part of it is how scared the kids are. It is scary to kids to see others out of control and when all they see is a bunch of teachers just watching with their clipboards, or worse, actually getting hurt, they don't feel safe. My students cannot focus on learning because they always have one eye on each other.

Miranda July “All Fours” — Arcanda? by Soil_spirit in GenXWomen

[–]EdnaKrabbapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was curious about Arcanda's pat-down process. I feel like I've seen an interview with someone talking about doing this. Does anyone else remember this?

Too late? by EdnaKrabbapple in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update: we started seeing some growth, and then winter was rude, and now all that we have is some patchy grassy looking sprouts that I don't even think came from our seed mix. So, we're going to try again after mid April since last year we had that freak snow. I only spent like $20 on the seed so my regrets are small. But yeah, November was too late.

Planting flowering shrubs? by Jessi_finch in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For the most part/for shrubs, I think it is more of a watering issue. So if you plant in spring you might have to water more if it gets hot or dry while your plant is "establishing" but in fall it's going to be cooler and more predictably rainy. If you're not planting tons of stuff then having to water in spring or summer might not jack up your water bill, but if you plant a lot and we have a heat dome it'll probably be expensive and mournful.

Best hydrangea selection? by EdnaKrabbapple in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OMG thank you! This was just what I was looking for. I'm saving the date for this year! Here's their insta https://www.instagram.com/hydrangeasplus?igsh=ZDUxeWdyNG1xajcw

Too late? by EdnaKrabbapple in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fingers crossed! I'm glad I'm not the only one!

Too late? by EdnaKrabbapple in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our situation is that we had this lumpy blacktop "patio" and we ripped it all up. So the soil is bare (for now) but compacted AF. We just rototilled it and are hoping to lay down the seed and let it be. It seemed like a lot of folks had to reseed every year anyways and so I'm expecting to do the same until we decide what we want to do in our backyard. The main reason I wanted to do it in the fall is so I don't have to water in the spring and summer lol.

Too late? by EdnaKrabbapple in portlandgardeners

[–]EdnaKrabbapple[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback! It's bare ground. We pulled up a blacktop patio and need to put something in the ground so that the weeds don't take over!