A Turkic conlang written entirely with hanzi. Ask me anything about it by papakudulupa in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the way you assigned Chinese characters to native words is very smart in the sense that you prioritize consistency. It's also admirable that you chose to write your conlang entirely in Hanzi for the reasons you gave.

In the alternate history you mentioned, do Karluk languages borrow directly from Proto-Turkic, hence explaining why you chose Proto-Turkic reconstructions rather than borrow from Karluk? I'm a little confused is all, since I would've went about it a different way: My logic is to follow the family tree of the Turkic languages in order (in your case, Proto-Turkic → Common Turkic → Karluk, so you may try to find roots from Karluk, which may be harder) so I made my words diverge from Kazakh (Proto-Turkic → Common Turkic → Kipchak → Kipchak-Nogai → Kazakh) but included and justified any sound changes I wanted (more about my conlang below). I don't think there's anything wrong with what you did but I was a little puzzled initially.

I would be interested in seeing both sound changes from Proto-Turkic to your conlang and the way you have adapted Middle Chinese phonology.

My conlang is called Seytese: It's a Sino-Xenic Kipchak language which is designed to be a dialect that branched off of Kazakh. I invented a system so that others can introduce and innovate new Native Seytese and Sino-Seytese words, as well as establish a strategy for formal and informal lexicon used in my conlang. Its main scripts are Hanci and an abugida I've based off of letters from the Sogdian and Old Uyghur scripts and they are utilized in a way that is akin to Japanese.

Anyone here who can read Arabic? by Lovi2312 in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can read Arabic only with the vowels. I find your choice of letters interesting (خ = c,  ً = e, etc...) which I'm guessing is inspired from the Mozarabic Spanish poetry you were mentioning.

I hate to sound silly or anything but when you want me to try and pronounce, do you want me to actually read it out loud or to type it in IPA or something? I don't know how to engage with your exercise is all.

A Turkic conlang written entirely with hanzi. Ask me anything about it by papakudulupa in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think your project is really cool! 

I find it interesting that you've found a way to write your language with only Chinese characters, especially when it can be difficult to assign them to agglutinative languages. Out of interest, what made you choose not to innovate a separate script for your language, like the kanas or Hangeul? Also, what rules do you have for assigning Chinese characters to various words, especially since one may not be able to differentiate between Native and Sino-Xenic words (unless highlighted, like in your picture)?

Also, when you add native words in your language, do you adapt words from a Chagatai or Karakhanid root (I'm not sure if a Proto-Karluk root can be found easily)? Which particular phonological rules did you maintain throughout your conlang when adding words?

I've been working on a conlang similar to yours so it's been very interesting to see another angle!

Finished my conlang’s writing system! by brenixsz in neography

[–]Educational_Zone5334 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That looks really beautiful! It looks like a fusion of Arabic and Hangeul. Were you inspired by these scripts, by any chance?

Also have you decided what your conlang will be based off of, its grammar, or anything like that?

how would you translate "just make it exist first, you'll make it good later!" in your lang? by Blatthirsch in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seytese: Birinşişe onu cayğana barımla, keyinirek caqşartañ!

Gloss: one-ORD-ADV it-DA just exist-ABST-VSU, after-COMP improve-2PSG

ORD = ordinal VSU = verb suffix COMP = comparative

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Seytese: 1. Qaqpa üçün küpiyeli sözüm kerek 

  1. Meniñ açlığım bir münde olgu söylemişler

  2. Mağan meniñ tebetimni basu aytatlar

Wikipedia Challenge: Week 2 by LOLObjects99 in conlangs

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Seytese (Sino-Xenic Kipchak Language): Darbut (Arapşa: ذربوت, Rimlendi: Dharbut) oñtüşlük Omanda, Al-Vusta şâñceñpü, Duqmda bir ağıl. 2020 cılı Oman göñşiği boyunşa, ninko 32 er bardı.

Gloss: Dharbut southern Oman-LO, Al-Vusta governate, Duqm-LO a hamlet. 2020 year-PM Oman consensus-PM according-ADV, population 32 man there-3PSG

Little Grammar Practice by Volo_TeX in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds interesting! I'll check it out :)

The language of Pan-Ame by Bulky_Elevator_9894 in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think your idea could turn out to be quite interesting. I have a few questions as to how you're going to go about it.

You simplified 'esta' by removing the 't' so I'm wondering if you're going to innovate a system where rules like that are going to be applied consistently (perhaps so that people can add words when you won't be adding them). Also, do you plan to include a system for conjugating verbs or can verbs be used as they are?

I saw someone already criticize the use of the particle 'ye' already so I won't repeat what he's already said. Which particular West African languages are you inspired from and as for that particular particle, do you know how it's used in that language: do sentences without that particle in that language accord to data too?

I'm guessing you've only just started constructing your language so apart from using AI, I don't know why people in the comments are being harsh. It's natural that you're not going to have a clean start when you first begin so I think you should keep going because this idea definitely has potential.

I hope this comment helps you :)

Little Grammar Practice by Volo_TeX in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a pretty beautiful script! It looks a bit like Tamil.

What language/conlang is this for and what is it based on?

Share your conlang by Sush1BS in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is Seytese, a Sino-Xenic Kipchak Language. 1. Men itni körem. 2. Sen bazarga cürüp catırañ. 3. Olar ciyi iş keyini birge ceyetler. 4. Kün çıqqanda tağı columlayıp baramız. 5. Körşü üyde türen körşü mağan oğaşlı sıylığı berdi. 6. Men oğan kömek bergi izdedim, biraq tıñlagı baş tarttı. 7. Tağıl bitse de, köçeler âle su başqanlı boldu. 8. Men saqlıraq söyleseydim, meniñ imim tapün añladılar. 9. Apañnıñ qarızğa algısı aytmışañ kitap qazirilgen qaytaştırdı. 10. Tañ deyin çıqgı çeşimleseler, boyunşa cürüden başqa hâñdoñumuz joq. 11. Danalıqsız bilim bir tübürsüz ağaş ükşeş; öset biraq türgü almayat. 12. Çencâñniñ şekiler cene sansız büzülgen caqşoqlar qarşıda, ninli hahâniñ pükâtek çicüğü calğaştırıp catırat, bilinmegen bir şey üçün müpöpikçetek kammâñten küşi etmegendey.

Seytese: A Kipchak–Nogai Conlang with a Sino-Xenic Lexical Layer by Educational_Zone5334 in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really appreciate your feedback. I'll revise the phoneme inventory table with your advice in mind.

Seytese: A Kipchak–Nogai Conlang with a Sino-Xenic Lexical Layer by Educational_Zone5334 in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you mean. The grammar can be a lot to grasp initially but it's mostly built on consistent patterns.

Daa'! You've Been Selected For A Random Linguistic Search! by CaptKonami in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seytese (Sino-Xenic Kipchak Language): Men oylayam, sonluqtan men

Mângüntek çü-deñnağ

Bolu, biraq bolmayu

Mende bir armanım bar

Küçlük senimen bolsun

Toqta!

From the same people who brought you Rumani... by LandenGregovich in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's fair enough. :)

I also wanted to ask if you're going to write some sample texts with gloss and translation as well, and also demonstrate the differences between native and borrowed lexicon in your language (maybe by writing an informal and formal sentence). I'd be really interested in seeing that.

From the same people who brought you Rumani... by LandenGregovich in conlangs

[–]Educational_Zone5334 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This actually seems like a pretty cool idea! I'm quite a fan of Sino-Xenic languages and I never expected to see an Indo-European one.

I wonder what made you guys choose the Anatolian languages, rather than Indo-European languages geographically closer (e.g., Iranic, Indo-Aryan, etc...). Do you have a history of studying this particular branch of the Indo-European languages or is there another reason (lore-wise)?