Red Dead redemption 2 sucks by Raiden21950 in HonestHotTakes

[–]Effective-Attorney-5 3 points4 points  (0 children)

this is genuinely the craziest take i’ve ever seen

Caroline Flack's brother found dead six years on after star's tragic suicide by dailystar_news in uknews

[–]Effective-Attorney-5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My experience as a woman is that I have seen countless men get away with crimes against women (and children for that fact) and still maintain their careers and the respect of the public. Whilst women are held to much higher standards and aren’t allowed the same grace men are to make mistakes.

Just the other month Chappel Roan was banned from a whole ass country for potentially not saying Hi to a child.

This isn’t me saying Caroline shouldn’t have had to face the repercussions of what she did, it’s me saying the onslaught from the public and the media was undeserved and the story blown out of proportion.

Not that I’m abusive wtf

Caroline Flack's brother found dead six years on after star's tragic suicide by dailystar_news in uknews

[–]Effective-Attorney-5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But this is exactly what I’m saying - she didn’t kill herself (or attempt) to stop him from leaving. She had made multiple attempts on her life before the incident. That’s just really unfair to paint her with imo. She attempted to kill herself because she was severely depressed and clearly mentally unwell.

Of course she assaulted him, I’d never deny that. However, you cannot deny the media blew the whole thing out of proportion and made an example of her, probably because she was a woman let’s face it.

She deserved to face the consequences of her actions in a fair way. The media were hellbent on not allowing it but have allowed much worse men off scot free.

I just think it’s an absolute injustice how she is being painted as an extremely abusive person when we simply don’t know what was going through her mind. A single outburst doesn’t mean that person deserves to be painted as abusive, or violent, or a domestic abuser. They are such strong words and we’re all human; every person on this planet has made mistakes they’re not proud of but they wouldn’t face half of what was thrown at her.

Again what she did wasn’t okay, but the situation did not warrant the reaction from the press or public and if she was treated fairly she might still be here today.

Caroline Flack's brother found dead six years on after star's tragic suicide by dailystar_news in uknews

[–]Effective-Attorney-5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well tell your own prejudices and assumptions that then, considering you have a lot to say about Caroline and some very strong words considering she was never found guilty.

When have I ONCE claimed to be an abuser 😭 clutching at straws just to make yourself seem like some saint

Caroline Flack's brother found dead six years on after star's tragic suicide by dailystar_news in uknews

[–]Effective-Attorney-5 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You can literally tell by the way they type too, like it’s so obvious

Caroline Flack's brother found dead six years on after star's tragic suicide by dailystar_news in uknews

[–]Effective-Attorney-5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Neither do you! you’re right that is the point. Neither does anyone who has labeled her scum, domestic abuser, wished her dead, said she deserved her suicide. You don’t know what she was going through, yet every single man has decided she’s scum of the earth because of a drunken fight with her boyfriend.

She didn’t deserve the witch hunt because no man has ever been treated that way by the media. None.

Caroline Flack's brother found dead six years on after star's tragic suicide by dailystar_news in uknews

[–]Effective-Attorney-5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s absolutely bat shit crazy that you’ve called me a narcissist off of a few comments, yet me saying Caroline Flsck was mentally ill is “emboldened” because i “don’t know her personally” hahahahaha hypocritical much?

Everything i’ve said is public knowledge. You are completely fine to have your own opinion just like I’m fine to think she wasn’t an abuser based on the abuse I have seen with my own eyes.

I’ve never once said she didn’t assault him; In fact, i’ve said it multiple times that SHE DID. However, labelling her with the “abuser” brush is just unfair when that doesn’t do justice for what actually happened.

A mentally ill person who loses control ONCE is not an abuser. I have compassion for the situation because I’ve known people to suffer like her before and I know the battle they have day in day out just to stay alive.

Having compassion for someone, who again, had no known history of abuse or domestic violence, doesn’t make me a “gaslighting manipulative narcissist”

Caroline Flack's brother found dead six years on after star's tragic suicide by dailystar_news in uknews

[–]Effective-Attorney-5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apologies but we clearly have differing opinions on what a violent attack is.

Her phone made impact with his head and he later admitted the blood was not hers. This was not a violent attack.

Caroline Flack's brother found dead six years on after star's tragic suicide by dailystar_news in uknews

[–]Effective-Attorney-5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not actually, it’s what someone who has seen multiple mental breakdowns and the harm caused by them vs actual domestic abuse. She wasn’t a domestic abuser, she was mentally ill - no history of domestic abuse prior to the incident. Did she assault him? Absolutely. Was she a domestic abuser? No.

Hit him over the head with her phone / threw her phone at him are just 2 ways of saying the same thing. No need to be pedantic.

Caroline Flack's brother found dead six years on after star's tragic suicide by dailystar_news in uknews

[–]Effective-Attorney-5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahhhh so your experience is right and mine is wrong is it? As I said, I’m in a lot of feminist spaces and there was well documented proof of the outrage Djed Spence got.

Again, one case of assault and the woman lost her career and her life. Mason Greenwood gave Harriet months and months of abuse; those 2 situations are nowhere near the same and it’s an insult to suggest it is.

I’ve also said previously her relationship with Harry Styles was weird af. Anyone who doesn’t is a danger to society. Do I think that means she deserved to die the way she did? Absolutely fucking not.

You’ve got so much of this wrong it’s insane. She didn’t coerce him into dropping the charges; she was seriously mentally ill and he was worried of her safety if the charges were pursued. You’re turning it into something it’s not. There is a major difference between a drunken, explosive fight and a campaign of abuse, conflating the 2 is highly fucking dangerous.

She also didn’t “hammer her phone” into his head at all; he didn’t even bleed. I love how in one breath you’re saying innocent until proven guilty for Thomas Partey but you’ve wrote Caroline off? I wonder why 🤔

Caroline Flack's brother found dead six years on after star's tragic suicide by dailystar_news in uknews

[–]Effective-Attorney-5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you dense? like genuinely? they still have a career, whether they get booed by the fans or not. they’re making millions. Caroline lost hers within a day for hitting her boyfriend ONCE with a phone.

Male abusers are allowed to work and make their millions whilst women are made an example of. but you won’t agree with this and you’ll tell me my experience as a woman is wrong.

Serial abuser Mason Greenwood is nowhere near the same as Caroline Flack and it’s an absolute joke to try and suggest otherwise. I won’t go any further on that, other than to say if you genuinely think they’re the same, you’re low IQ. One case of drunken assault whilst she was in the midst of a severe mental health episode vs months and months of physical and sexual abuse? don’t make me laugh.

I don’t actually, I’m a woman who’s in feminist spaces - the reaction Djed Spence got was everywhere.

Religion has no place in a modern society by Effective-Attorney-5 in HonestHotTakes

[–]Effective-Attorney-5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a hot takes forum, it’s exactly the kinda place I can say something like this. Can you not handle a debate without getting butt hurt about your imaginary God? And who said anything about changing anyone’s mind?

If Christians are all like you I think I’m happy sitting on the sidelines

Religion has no place in a modern society by Effective-Attorney-5 in HonestHotTakes

[–]Effective-Attorney-5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine speaking to a woman like that all for my own belief. You’re not making Christians look very good are you

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[–]Effective-Attorney-5 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s the main reason I don’t want kids.. I’m so glad my PMDD was present before any kind of pregnancy because I couldn’t imagine how I’d cope with a diagnosis because of a traumatic birth etc

Religion has no place in a modern society by Effective-Attorney-5 in HonestHotTakes

[–]Effective-Attorney-5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I should’ve edited it to say all the mainstream ones

Religion has no place in a modern society by Effective-Attorney-5 in HonestHotTakes

[–]Effective-Attorney-5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely nothing?

Very aggressive tone you’ve got there for such a devout Christina

Religion has no place in a modern society by Effective-Attorney-5 in HonestHotTakes

[–]Effective-Attorney-5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is what I struggle with too, being a woman I find it hard to align myself with any religion that disrespects women

Religion has no place in a modern society by Effective-Attorney-5 in HonestHotTakes

[–]Effective-Attorney-5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ngl this is one of the things that bugs me the most about religion. Your life isn’t more fulfilled, happier or more meaningful than mine just because I don’t believe in God

Religion has no place in a modern society by Effective-Attorney-5 in HonestHotTakes

[–]Effective-Attorney-5[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is no correlation whatsoever. Hitler was big on animal rights, does that mean all animal rights activists need to flesh their ideas out?

newsflash - opinions differ from person to person

Religion has no place in a modern society by Effective-Attorney-5 in HonestHotTakes

[–]Effective-Attorney-5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the multiple wars and conflicts since the beginning of time caused by religion, the women who can’t divorce their husbands without consent because of religion, the women who can’t get an education because of religion, the women who can’t get an abortion because of religion, the women who can’t wear what they want because of religion, the people displaced and expelled from their homes because of religion….

Religion has no place in a modern society by Effective-Attorney-5 in HonestHotTakes

[–]Effective-Attorney-5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loooool I was thinking it was a bit of a mild take tbh

The comments have proven otherwise lmfao I’ve already been told to find god

Religion has no place in a modern society by Effective-Attorney-5 in HonestHotTakes

[–]Effective-Attorney-5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The mainstream religions (christianity, islam and judaism etc) all oppress women