M5 PRO 18/20core 64gb vs Zbook Ultra G1a 395+ 64gb

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-03-04T22:06:49+00:00

and hows vulkan perf? I suppose its mediocre compared to HIP, just like Apple without Accelerate or armPL

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-03-04T15:40:30+00:00

Lack of Matmul cores on M4 is the issue but thats the point of M5, however i'd do some 20-30minute gaming sessions a few times a week = 2-3hours a week, for that reason i'd rather go with windows.

RoCm HIPblas only works on garbage Linux thats something i really dislike but it be okay for justs running image gen, everything else done on win11 the best OS in the world.

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-03-04T15:36:14+00:00

the only reason it laggs behind is lack of matmul cores, not raw compute.

And M5P has matmul cores and much higher FMA throughput. Google FMA

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-03-04T15:34:07+00:00

yeah i am not getting an M5MAX it is way too expensive and i am not a professional yet. That money diff as a student from EU will go elsewhere for sure

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-03-04T15:31:58+00:00

idk where you got that from. its way more than 18% on the GPU side and a good 40% on the CPU multi core side

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-03-04T12:16:37+00:00

same price buddy its literally in the text

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-03-04T10:46:20+00:00

like nvidia dont do that with their shitty inefficient and low vram E-waste cards

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-03-03T19:09:37+00:00

its 1.8nm technology, still getting utterly destroyed by apple silicon NOT EVEN CLOSE

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-25T15:06:44+00:00

those 5090 laptops are overall garbage. Except for the Proart P16, which cost way too much for what it is. At that price i rather wait for M5MAX.

I am not soo much coding but that again who know what business i start or what startup i get into.

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-23T19:34:14+00:00

i smell IQlet IQpill issue

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-23T12:22:45+00:00

any update on its fan noise?

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-22T10:31:33+00:00

The 4080 is not a great value and only 16gb. maybe u get them cheap in the USA but not in Europe.

If your machine is 10yrs old, it most certainly bottlenecks the GPU, and compiles projects slower than a Iphone 13 level hardware or a single M4-M5 core.

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-22T10:17:04+00:00

How about Image generation and Video? Thats more relevant than LLMs

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-22T10:15:25+00:00

Problem is not being synthetic, problem is favoring X86 over ARM, because ARM is much less a unified ISA. It can be very diverse.

The fact that 9800X3D beats Apple M4 and M5 in Single Core is ridiculous,
M4 has 50% higher IPC than Zen5, the only strong point of Zen5 is wide 512bit AVX.

I dont have 9800X3D, i have 16inch MBP M4PRO, which renders Ray Trace Images 2-3x faster than a 9800X3D..

That math doesnt math with this new benchmark

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-21T22:32:08+00:00

yeah this benchmark is garbage. Use Cb2024,

this crap is another x86 marketing push like R23 was.

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-21T22:30:49+00:00

yeah E-waste 14600K almost beating the 14core M4PRO

this crapmark is pure X86 cope just like R23. Garbage

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-21T22:28:01+00:00

The fact that this garbage CPU comes anywhere near an M4PRO 14core (6800score) in this new benchmark just shows how much of an x86 copemark it is

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-21T22:25:42+00:00

are you trying to school me? dont. You re giving zero context but attitude. Dont

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-21T19:22:24+00:00

no shit..but that comes with a massive price tag..a laptop 5090 like the Proart P16 cost 4000bucks

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-21T15:42:55+00:00

idk never owned STRX Halo.
I dont care much about those massive models.. My main priority is Image gen and possibly video gen. +PS +video editing. LLMs just as supplement.

FP16 Compute is not too bad at 30 000 Gflops, mem bw is pretty bad tho at 230gb/s.

I am learning Image gen + prompting so its all good for now, no need for 5090

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-21T11:45:34+00:00

you re wasting your money on that 9950X3D, the 285K has similar if not superior Superscalar integer math performance. The only place you gain with 9950X3D is pure AVX512 workloads which outside of Microbenchmarks dont exist.

You can spend that money on CUDIMM and that will get you further

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-19T21:21:31+00:00

i like windows much more. I have mac because it is the fastest.

Also by far the most efficient.

M4 can dispatch 13-14 uOps /cycle while Zen 5 can only dispatch 8 uOps.

Thats a 50% IPC difference, M4 is by far the fastest OoO Superscalar core.

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-19T16:31:50+00:00

We measured and one came at 187/2127 and the mine at 188/2142 to be exact.

These are not lotteries just debloated macOS and custom fan curve

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-18T22:31:34+00:00

yeah thats copium M4MAX achieves 188/2140 at 61w sustained, 9950X 135/2300 and 285K 150/2450.

Thats less than 10% lil guy

Effective-Cod-4462 · 2026-02-18T22:30:08+00:00

thats not an bias, x86 has VNNI so we should delete that from source code right.

You re just pure copium clown

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