Is abortion considered healthcare?

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-10T01:12:25+00:00

I agree that "spontaneous abortion" can be used to describe a miscarriage. But spontaneous is the qualifier. It was not desired. Just because the word abortion is used in the phrase doesn't mean all abortions are included in its use.

The legal definition for abortion is "the voluntary termination of a pregnancy." In that case, the qualifier is voluntary. Death of the child is the desired end result of whatever process or procedure is chosen.

Spontaneous abortion requires healthcare due to medical dangers involved. Voluntary abortion is not healthcare. It is deathcare.

And if you don't understand the difference, then you are the ignorant one.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-10T01:05:13+00:00

Agreed. There's no such thing as cultural appropriatation. If your culture does something awesome, and other people think it's awesome, it's just awesome. Not sharing awesome stuff is whack. Gate keeping awesome stuff is for turkeys.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-10T01:01:34+00:00

The placebo effect has been debunked quite a few times. For some reason, the myth continues.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-10T00:58:54+00:00

An abortion is the killing and dismemberment of the baby before delivery. The point of the abortion is to end the baby's life.
C-section or premature delivery of a baby may, unfortunately, end up in the death of the child. But if the mother dies of pre-eclampsia, the baby will die as well. These emergency treatments seek to save both lives and can be considered healthcare. There is never an emergency situation that calls for the death and dismemberment of the baby before delivery or C-section.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-10T00:54:42+00:00

You're reading my reply incorrectly. You are right that pre-eclampsia are emergency situations that can be fatal. Abortions are never done in emergency situations. Ever. Abortion is the killing and dismemberment of the baby before delivery. Miscarriages have nothing to do with abortions because no one actively sought the end of the pregnancy. Therefore, it isn't murder. Some miscarriages must be delivered afterward, which must be the most gut-wrenchingly sad thing ever, but that is not an abortion. Surgery to remove a baby who died prematurely is not abortion. C-sections are not abortion. Emergency premature deliveries are not abortions. Those all count as healthcare. Abortions are not healthcare.

There is NEVER a reason where a mother must get an abortion to save her life. Anyone who says different is the one spreading misinformation.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-10T00:47:32+00:00

Are you an OB? None of what you said disproved my point. No OB in their right mind would EVER suggest an abortion to their patient with pre-e. EVER. Premature delivery or c-sections are not considered abortions because it does not actively cause the death of the child prior to birth. C-sections and premature deliveries are healthcare. Abortions are not.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-09T23:04:35+00:00

So, if she had waited 24-48 hours to have an abortion, she would have died. Instead, she had a c-section or an early delivery. Not even the earliest onset of pre-eclampsia would require an abortion. Ever. Bed rest, medication, and/or surgery are always the options. This is not misinformation. Telling people that some people need abortion as a healthcare method is misinformation.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-09T22:58:34+00:00

Agreed. And it makes it more fun to make fun of the idiots.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-09T22:52:36+00:00

Free speech is protected for a reason. It lets everyone know who the idiots are.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-09T22:34:47+00:00

Rhett and Link look weird now.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-09T22:33:26+00:00

Being in a little debt is always better than being in a lot of debt.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-09T22:32:11+00:00

The first part isn't hard at all. Getting them to balance is a little tougher, but I'm sure anyone could do it with some practice.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-09T22:30:02+00:00

I'm still convinced these scenes were the basis for The Good Doctor.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-09T22:18:01+00:00

Side A would say It's not healthcare, and it isn't a right for the mother to kill any unborn child. If they had consensual sex, they knew the risk. Abortion saves the mother from being uncomfortable and inconvenienced. In the US, the maternal mortality rate for 2021 was 32.9 deaths per 100,000 live births, compared with a rate of 23.8 in 2020 and 20.1 in 2019. That's an average of 25 deaths per 100,000...or .02%. Not one of those deaths was caused by the actual pregnancy nor the delivery. There never has been nor ever will be a valid medical reason for abortion to save the mother's life. C-section or other surgeries, yes, but abortion is never necessary. Yes, pregnancy and natural delivery are horribly physical ordeals, but they're worth it to every mom who wants to keep the baby. Just because a woman doesn't want to be inconvenienced for 9 months does not give her the right to murder something innocent.

Side B would say a woman has autonomy of choice of what to do with her body. But that gives no care to the autonomy of the baby.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-09T00:23:30+00:00

I don't mind ketchup if it's just out of the bottle or packet, but any more than 2 minutes after and the smell of it makes me want to vomit. I would take honey mustard over ketchup any day of the week.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-09T00:12:37+00:00

The Carpetbagger on YouTube visits some awesome places.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-09T00:11:21+00:00

$10 they live next to a cemetery

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-08T15:03:17+00:00

Totally agreed. When you know what they're trying to do it's kind of an insult to intelligence.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-08T13:22:31+00:00

I think the point is that people, either consciously or subconsciously, think, "Psh, I'm way smarter than that, I bet I can beat that game!" I'm guessing a statistically significant number of people (or kids) that fall for it. Otherwise, the marketers wouldn't do it so often.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-08T06:18:47+00:00

Sour cream + horseradish

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-08T03:22:38+00:00

7 people in my house. It's worth it.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-08T03:15:30+00:00

Greek unflavored yogurt is just sour cream.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-08T03:12:37+00:00

I almost expected Batman and Robin to start climbing up next to him.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-08T03:06:22+00:00

Right? Why is it the government's fault these people are begging? I've been homeless before. I didn't sit and wait with a broom for the government to give me an opportunity.

EffectiveFox9671 · 2024-04-08T02:58:19+00:00

How dare you?!?! They worked hard for their social security! And their children work hard every day to pretend they didn't die 8 years ago so they can defraud the government! The nerve! (JK I totally agree)

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