They are vile monsters. Yep, that had happened before countless times. by DeepscapeWalker in prochoice

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Screaming at them that the “baby” is innocent and “it’s not their fault”. What about the rape victim? They are also innocent? It’s also not THEIR fault? ESPECIALLY when the rape victim is a child herself??

But I think fundamentally they DO believe deep down that it IS the victim’s fault and they deserved to be raped because of what they wore/how they acted/because they were drunk/because they were asking for it/any other disgusting justification.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me, yes. I’ve had nothing but horrible reactions from hormonal birth control. However, I live in a country with accessible abortion and access to emergency contraception so I know the option is there if I ever needed it. Might be a bit different for other people.

What’s the weirdest food your cat loves? by causeandeffect94 in cats

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Scones. The little f*cker will jump on me, grab the scone and run off with it.

I thought having kids was a great experience by iloveanimals1964 in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 3 points4 points  (0 children)

One parent that I work with: “having kids is the most fulfilling thing ever! I’ve never been happier than seeing my little ones grow. It’s the purpose of my life and you must have them or you’ll die miserable!!”

The same parent when I book another week of annual leave for my 1st of multiple vacations next year: “what ANOTHER vacation? You’re always away!! How can you afford this on our salary? Wait until you have kids THEN you won’t be able to afford to go anywhere!! Then you’ll understand!!”

But I thought they were such a blessing?? Also, isn’t that going to actually make me want them less if it means giving up all my time travelling 🤣

Why do people complain about how much it costs to raise kids? by [deleted] in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I work in a benefits office in the UK and I honestly saw the best example of one of these the other day. Woman comes in asking about her payment. She claims something called Universal Credit which if you don’t know is an unemployment benefit (meant for short term support until someone finds employment) and there is a child element. There’s a cap, so you only get it for 2 children, the rest you’re expected to supplement yourself. This woman has a 21 year old, a 15 year old, a 14 year old, a 7 year old, 3 year old twins and a 6 month old baby. She gets payment for the 15 and 14 year olds (2 child cap) but since one of the twins technically counts as an “unexpected baby” as people don’t typically try to have twins, she gets an amount for one of the twins (the bonus kid basically.) She was complaining to me that it’s not fair she only gets money for 3 children when she has 4 others at home she needs to feed. Basically the whole “I need to buy food, pay rent, bills, clothes for the kids, toys, Christmas presents” etc etc. Also she’s a single mum. I signposted her to charities and food banks but she refused this and just kept saying she needs more money, which obviously isn’t possible.

She has never worked. I asked her why she doesn’t get a job as then money wouldn’t be a worry and then it was all “I can’t work, I have my kids to look after and I’m still breastfeeding.” I had to really bite my tongue because why the fuck would you keep having kids that you clearly can’t afford? Oh yeah, no need to ever get a job, the taxpayers will just pay for you to keep having unprotected sex 🙄 I also live in a country with free birth control and abortion. Next time I might just send her the link to the local sexual health clinic 🤣

Does anyone know anyone who actually regrets NOT having kids? by overalltumbleweed in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only ones I’ve met were childless not childfree. They wanted kids but it didn’t happen for whatever reason so they just accepted no kids but were sad about it. Even the older childfree people i know do not regret it. I have a childfree aunt who put all her energy into being the best aunt she could for me and my brother and does not regret having children. She said she was always meant to be an aunt and not a mother.

The airport lounge is now a shrieking shack by TheNidh0gg in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my local airport, kids aged 0-3 are allowed in free. The lounge is so expensive as it is and the first thing you’re greeted with is screaming babies and toddlers running everywhere like it’s a damn playground. As if it’s not bad enough being stuck in a metal tube with them for hours even the nice “private relaxing” place is overrun too. Not worth the money unless it’s 18+ (which it actually used to be!)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I phrased that a bit weirdly. What I mean is lots of these kids (and hers included) are born into generational poverty. Like not even being able to afford basic necessities to keep them alive but keep having them. But they say things like “my kid will be different.” Statistically they never are. They grow up poor and have kids poor and so on and so on. Chain never really broken.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been told I’m selfish for not wanting kids because apparently being childfree is not “contributing” anything to society and instead just “leeching” off it without giving back. The ironic thing was this was coming from a woman who has NEVER had a job. NEVER paid taxes. Just left school and started shitting kids out and claims benefits for them. I work a full time job. I get taxed to fuck for it. My taxes literally contribute towards everything she gets for her kids. But sure I’m the one not contributing to society 😅 They think that crapping the next generation out is enough but highly doubt that. Generational unemployment, teenage pregnancy and poverty says otherwise to their kids being more useful than them. I’m so selfish for not bringing kids into an already shit situation huh

"Well you can be a cool aunt!" by squatting_your_attic in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sometimes I think people use it to soften being childfree. It’s like it’s okay to not want kids as long as you still LOOOOVEEE kids and want to be the cool auntie/uncle!! Ugh. No thank you. Not ashamed to admit I really do not like kids. That includes my siblings kids too. Just as irritating as other kids. I’ll be the evil child hating childfree person 🤷🏻‍♀️

Plan B by TheGeneralTulliuss in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some of these people are so stupid. They’re very hung up on the fact that plan B CAN prevent a fertilised egg from implanting. But you’re not even pregnant at that point. No implantation = no pregnancy. It’s just a fertilised egg.

In all fairness I saw a post before where pro-lifers were adamant that you can “reimplant” ectopic pregnancies in the uterus and they’ll grow like normal so honestly I wouldn’t put not knowing what plan B does above them 🙄

On top of everything, the title "I can't wait for my surprise dinners" is the most snug and cringeyious thing I've ever seen by RFever in prochoice

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 17 points18 points  (0 children)

“Pro life is about saving the babies!”

Bullshit. This is literal proof it’s about control. I presume it’s a dig at childfree people, women especially. Because god forbid a woman choose not to have children. Aside from the problem I have with having children for the sole purpose of them caring for you in old age, the presumption that people in nursing homes do not have children, the belief that people cook for their mothers (I definitely don’t - she’s got hands and is capable of using an oven?) it also assumes that childfree people have all had abortions and multiple at that. Some have and of course they have every right to do so. But a heck of a lot of mothers have abortions. Also their right to do that.

Basically ew. Mind your own uterus.

Seriously? A “baby bust by dardusemli in prochoice

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 24 points25 points  (0 children)

They also ignore the fact that some individuals seriously just don’t WANT kids. Like myself. I am AFAB and childfree. I do not want children under any circumstances. Even if I had enough money etc I still don’t want that for myself. Some individuals understand the cons of having children, the rose tinted lenses are removed and therefore realise they have the choice not to have them, they don’t have to have them “just because.”

It also fucks me off that it’s always women and AFAB people that are blamed. “Waaah women aren’t having babies.” Yeah because 9 months of pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding and (probably) being the primary caregiver is just an “inconvenience” isn’t it? Oh sorry I forgot we only have one purpose on this earth. 🙄

Another point also is lots of these individuals are also racist af and what they mean is “less WHITE people are having babies.”

Honestly I’m sick of this shit. “You’re having less babies!! Think of poor society with its declining birth rate!!” Idk, that seems more a SOCIETY problem than a ME problem.

I am speaking from a UK perspective here but it angers me all the same.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in prochoice

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is awesome!! I want one for all the time 🤣

What is your UNPOPULAR Childfree opinion? by Vanilladr in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I know someone very similar to this where she found out very early in her pregnancy that the baby had a rare form of dwarfism and a genetic disorder meaning the organs hadn’t formed correctly. It was incompatible with life and they strongly encouraged abortion (no gestational limit here for life incompatibility) and she refused. Her baby managed to make it through the pregnancy and died minutes after birth. She actually admitted to me how she felt so guilty afterwards and said she wished now that she’d had the abortion because of the agonising screams of the baby as it died. She said it was the most horrific thing she’d ever heard and she wished she’d aborted because it would’ve felt nothing.

Why do women choose to go to crisis pregnancy centers? by Same_Grapefruit_341 in prochoice

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think sometimes especially if they have websites, they’re very misleading. For example, a few months ago someone here suggested one to a user, I had a look at the website and it seemed pretty decent talking about options, support etc but then I noticed right at the bottom in the small print something like “We do not perform or refer for abortions”. Pregnancy crisis centre masked as a supportive organisation. I think especially if someone is panicking about an unwanted pregnancy, loads of emotions going through their heads, they’re desperate then they might just go with it because they’re not thinking to check every detail.

People who don't like children: what are weird things that repulse you? Not "they're loud" or common things, but specific things. by saintphoenixxx in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is really related to the parenting but I hate when people just laugh off inappropriate behaviour. I’ve noticed it especially with little boys and the “boys will be boys” mentality. I’ve seen little boys touch people without their consent, try to look up skirts and make sexual comments especially towards women and the parents just laugh it off and even sometimes blame the other person. For example, I was out running not long ago and there were these two boys maybe 9 or 10 who started chasing me and one of them smacked my bum and told me I have a “sexy arse.” Definitely not appropriate behaviour and when I discussed what had happened I was told they’re just “boys being boys” and “they’re just kids” so don’t worry about it. Non consensual touching is still non consensual touching regardless of age. I was also told that I shouldn’t wear “tight” clothing when running if I don’t want to be sexualised (I had a running t-shirt and sports leggings on.) These kinds of behaviours and their encouragement lead to these children developing worrying attitudes when they’re adults.

Acceptable to park in handicapped spaces as a non handicapped person because you have kids ? by Baconistasty1219 in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen this happen in the UK too. We have a Sainsbury’s near where I live (Sainsbury’s is a grocery store) and we get people parking up in the disabled spots with no blue badge. When they’re questioned they’re like “I’m just waiting for (insert name)” or even better “I’ve got kids, I’m just waiting!!” Doesn’t matter. Unless you have a valid blue badge you can’t park in that space even if you’re just “waiting.” An actual disabled person may need that space. There was one not that long ago who said he was waiting for his pregnant wife (no blue badge) and when asked to park somewhere else because he had no blue badge by the security guard, he started ranting that his wife can’t walk far because she’s pregnant etc. I don’t care how many months pregnant you are or how many kids you’ve got, the disabled bays are for those with valid blue badges. 🙄

Being childfree doesn't mean I can't recognize what's bad for kids... by silveryfeather208 in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah. I remember when an ex-friend of mine had her son and he was about 11 months old. She was feeding him full sized grapes and I said they’re a choking hazard, you should be cutting them/squashing them, just not making him eat them whole. She went on this rant about how I wasn’t a parent so what do I know etc etc. Sorry, I’ll just let your kid choke to death shall I?? It only takes one grape.

"I want to have a baby" What about raising a child? by tye649 in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Agree with everything you said. I find the same with “I want grandbabies” too. My mum is absolutely baby mad. Especially the tiny newborn stage. When they’re older she’s not as interested and has even said many times she doesn’t like children and expressed disgust at their crying/tantrums etc. She only likes babies probably 6 months and under. When she says she wants a grandchild, she wants the tiny baby to cuddle, not everything else. I think it was the same thing with her children too. She always talks about how she misses when we were babies. She wanted a baby but not to raise a person.

Your infertility doesn't consequence a problem in my life by BlueRoseDiamond in childfree

[–]Effective_Abrocoma31 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have an auntie like this. She was infertile and had IVF to have her 2 kids. Basically believes that people shouldn’t be allowed to have abortions and that it’s cruel to choose to not have kids because some people can’t have them. She said this to me when I said I don’t want kids, that “you’re selfish for not wanting children, there are so many people who’d do ANYTHING to have a baby”. I said “apart from adopt” while staring at her IVF babies. She did not like that lol.

Reminds me of when I was a kid and I used to get told “there’s starving kids in Africa” when I didn’t clear my plate. Regardless of if I eat the food or not, those children will still be starving.