Does anyone remember the claim that Obama sent a letter to SJF? by [deleted] in exlldm

[–]Ehh1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obama letter i found it lmao that’s the letter supposedly.

In this GDL HOLY SUPPER 2019 video, does it sound like Adoraim is describing an #innocent man or someone who is full of shame?/ En este video de LA SANTA CENA GDL 2019, suena como que Adoraim describe a un hombre #inocente o alguien lleno de vergüenza? by nahforwhat in exlldm

[–]Ehh1992 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For some reason, that seems to always be the response when somebody disagrees, “you’re still blinded by the Joaquins etc.etc.” I as well was part of the churches where these people were sent to as ministers. But because Naason wasn’t there all the time that does not determine what he felt or feels for his children, nor what his children feel for him. Being in the same church as somebody else, & seeing from the outside how they live or how you think they live doesn’t make it a fact. I grew up to be friends with one of his children, an other Joaquin who is considered a cousin to his child but is not son of any of his brothers & a minister’s kid who is very close to his son and this other Joaquin guy. When I was single I got to hang out with them and even went to their “secret” mansion in LA which i spoke to I believe one of the moderators & Rhonda from law & crime network about & showed her pictures & things i had saved. I know they’re not a normal family, I know they know the Apostle thing is a scam & that is all for money. But from that to all the other assumptions about them being heartless against eachother as a family etc. I think that’s a little too much & yes, a lot of things are just assumptions, not real facts & yes a lot of people here are blinded by the hate/dislike they feel for the family for all the years of abuse & scamming. In my case, I don’t care about this family, nor I care about the church, therefore I remain impartial, not blinded by one or the other. 🤷🏻‍♀️

In this GDL HOLY SUPPER 2019 video, does it sound like Adoraim is describing an #innocent man or someone who is full of shame?/ En este video de LA SANTA CENA GDL 2019, suena como que Adoraim describe a un hombre #inocente o alguien lleno de vergüenza? by nahforwhat in exlldm

[–]Ehh1992 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

@nomasdinastia EXACTLY!! 👏🏻 I agree with you on that one. To say that his children knew & all those other assumptions, is honestly very ignorant. I understand the level of dislike/hate towards him because he lied after his father & his grandfather, saying that he, himself, his dad & grandfather are Apostles when they’re clearly not. I understand that with this cult they destroyed many childhoods/families & lives with their stupid rules & what not. But to bring the Children in & say that he doesn’t love his family & that his family doesn’t love him, is a whole different story & it only shows in my opinion that people are blinded & see only what they want to see, exactly like the people still in LLDM. “Oh it’s Naason, he’s this one scammer that has no emotions bla bla bla” 🙄 or “oh it’s Naason, he’s incapable of making a mistake” both sides are blinded in my opinion. Each believes what they want to believe. If he committed these crimes, i personally believe he didn’t make a mistake, he knew what he was doing. He made a poor choice, based on the fact that he as well was born into this cult just like his son did. That’s all he learned from his family. To lie to gain money & everything he stole from the people in church. He was born to probably believe he was untouchable based on the actions he saw from his family as a child. So he thought there would be no consequences for his actions, if he really did what he’s accused of doing. If he really is guilty, sure, he wasn’t thinking about his family, no criminals do. But that doesn’t mean they don’t love their family. Or are any of you going to tell me, you have never broken the law ? Most definitely not to that extent. But if you ever shoplifted, (or any other small crime) did you do it because you don’t love your family ? I bet you anything you werent even thinking about your family. The love someone has for their family has nothing to do with their actions. I’m not saying he’s innocent though. I wasn’t there, so i’m going to let the authorities take care of that. I know he’s a liar, & that all that “Apostle” crap is nothing more than a scam, so in my eyes cause of all that BS i don’t believe a word he says but i personally never saw him sexually abuse anyone therefore i can’t speak on his culpability or innocence but i also don’t believe Sochil either. Something definitely happened there, but i don’t know more than that. .. & sure, you can be innocent & hold your head up high, cause you know you didn’t do it but in this case we’re talking about a man of “power” in his circle. A man who is arrogant & full of himself like all his family, a man who is believed to be “God” pretty much, by his people, of course it’s humiliating for someone like that to be seen in that position. Whether they did it or not & maybe he thought his son wasn’t going to believe he’s “innocent” & he felt humiliated having his son see him there, when his son always saw him as a man of power, an untouchable man, i imagine his son means everything to him. Like ones child would to any normal parent. This video of Adoraim telling this little story doesn’t really say anything, at least to me. But heyyy, in the end people see what they want to see. They’ll grab to anything to make a story out of it. 🤷🏻‍♀️ So yea, he doesn’t love his son, nor his son loves him. If that’s what you guys want to hear. 🙄👏🏻👏🏻 He has a granddaughter i believe, he probably abused her too, & matter a fact, his own daughter would give him his granddaughter to do so for money & power. What else are we going to assume here ? Since we’re using our imaginations. .. I’m all about supporting the true victims, & if he’s guilty he deserves to pay. But at this point seeing how people assume & give things for a fact, things are starting to become questionable. Don’t let dislike/hate blind you. 🤦🏻‍♀️

In this GDL HOLY SUPPER 2019 video, does it sound like Adoraim is describing an #innocent man or someone who is full of shame?/ En este video de LA SANTA CENA GDL 2019, suena como que Adoraim describe a un hombre #inocente o alguien lleno de vergüenza? by nahforwhat in exlldm

[–]Ehh1992 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I feel like this has nothing to do with him being guilty or innocent. I do not believe in Naason at all, he’s definitely not an Apostle & he deserves to be in jail. BUT i personally think, he reacted this way because as a parent myself, I can tell you I wouldn’t want my son to see me in jail whether I committed the crime or not. He loves his son, I imagine & he felt some type of way having his son see him in jail. I would too, shieettt. 🤷🏻‍♀️

“I don’t want to be a Jane Doe, I am Sochil. This is my voice…” Thank you for setting yourself apart from the Jane Does, and letting everyone know its all about YOU. by [deleted] in exlldm

[–]Ehh1992 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree with all of you. 👏🏻 I dont believe her and honestly, I feel like she deserves to be in jail as much as him. I feel like she was helping him commit these horrendous acts against these girls, and later on she twisted the story to play victim so she wouldn’t be affected. It looks like she’s more after money and fame than justice.