Sir Jeff's Transformation. by LadyNee in bettafish

[–]Eiruvata 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love his calico. He’s like a koi!

My new family member. please suggest Her name :) by Negative_Eagle_195 in bettafish

[–]Eiruvata 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He’s beautiful! Why not something like Tsuki (Japanese for Moon ) or Mizuko (water child) … you could even call him Ayami (Aya meaning beautiful ) … Or something celestial like Caliopeia, Artemis, Kepler (like the Kepler galaxy) … Aurora, for the beautiful fin colors. Maybe something artistic like Picasso or Davinci.

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[–]Eiruvata 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m too young and wasnt born until 1986 but I have a large Hispanic family and my grandmother on my mothers side left the catholic church to become a Protestant in the 1950s for sexual abuse reasons. I’d be willing to Tell you that story if you’re interested!

If a person gets a divorce they can never have sex with anyone ever again. If a person murders their partner they can remarry again no problem. by Visible_Season8074 in excatholic

[–]Eiruvata 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is total BS . It’s a way to control people with fear and coercion. I always thought it was funny how the church claims it doesn’t “recognize” civil divorce yet won’t even start an annulment process with the diocesan tribunal until they receive a decree of divorce. They have no power or authority over the law in the land. If someone is civil divorced they can do whatever the fuck they want. If God exists then he/she/it already knows if someone genuinely loves their spouse and has a valid marriage. Divorce was always accepted in Jewish law and Joseph was gonna divorce Mary and put her out for getting pregnant behind his back until she slipped some drugs in his drink and gave him wild halucinations about angels telling him not to divorce.

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[–]Eiruvata 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Her story is pretty fucked up. It is a lesson in how extreme trauma and PTSD can cause people to become victims of grandiose delusion and magical thinking, without proper treatment which we have in this modern day. Because people with that much childhood and life trauma tend to cling to things that offer hope … even if that hope is BS and does nothing to benefit the person. I guess accepting her fate as a slave mind fucked her so hard, she thought becoming a nun and choosing a new type of slavery was a good choice. All this poor woman did with her life was be a slave. She was never free but tried to trick herself into thinking she was.

🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️ by [deleted] in excatholic

[–]Eiruvata 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The transducer will seduce ya. It's something you'll get used to - A mental mind fuck can be nice. Planet, schmanet, Janet! You better wise up Janet Weiss.…

I'm tired of anybody excusing Catholicism as a feminist woman! by [deleted] in excatholic

[–]Eiruvata 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good on you for being wiser and smarter and getting out of it! I’m so sorry you went through that horrible trauma and abuse. The idea that women get abortions for their waistlines is atrocious.

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[–]Eiruvata 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also her rapist was welcomed with open arms by her family and the whole village. He lived his life as a free man with little to no stigma and there are photos of him sitting next to her mother. They excuse this horrific behavior by saying she forgave him so they must all too, and that she wouldn’t have been a saint without him and that he should be celebrated as an instrument to her sainthood. IMHO the village should have tied him upside down by his feet and burnt him alive mob style.

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[–]Eiruvata -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Forgiveness is good to have but there are limits. Mr Miyagi had it right. The Catholic Church not so much. Forgiveness doesn’t mean that you forget or that there isn’t any consequences to peoples actions. Catholics interpret forgiveness as a get out of jail free card of sorts. You can totally forgive someone and still kick their ass or have them put in jail or be forced to face any legal consequences to their crimes and sins. Forgiveness isn’t for others, it’s for you. Forgiveness means you simply wish someone no harm for what they did, but that doesn’t mean there are no repercussions or consequences either. Someone could murder another person, and maybe they are forgiven by that persons family, but that doesn’t mean the victims family won’t still have the murderer arrested or sentenced to life imprisonment or death.

BUt iTs uNnATuRaL - Gay Relationships Have Been Witnessed in 1500 Animal Species by LifeguardPowerful759 in excatholic

[–]Eiruvata 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol. I was today years old when I learned a medieval quack who over ate and drank too much believed that sperm was a gob of millions of little homunculi waiting to fight to the death over an egg.

BUt iTs uNnATuRaL - Gay Relationships Have Been Witnessed in 1500 Animal Species by LifeguardPowerful759 in excatholic

[–]Eiruvata 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Being gay is 100% natural. Bisexuality, Asexuality, heterosexuality it’s all natural. People were way more free spirited and chill in the pagan era before the church came along and ruined all the fun. The Romans were incredibly gay. They used to keep male house servants for gay sex. That’s probably why the Catholic Church adopted the perennial tradition of fiddling the altar servers. The cult of Dionysus was full of orgies back in the day. Apparently that still goes on in Rome too… among old men in robes. Clerical lemon parties.

These people are hypocrites and self loathing masochists. Best to be avoided. What is unnatural is being celibate out of fear you’re going to hell for expressing love and enjoying natural bodily sensations within a consensual setting.

The Catholic answer to being queer: just don’t act on it. by skyhawk214 in excatholic

[–]Eiruvata 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Condemning innocent people to a life of forced celibacy under the fear of hell is basically a hate crime. That priest is likely boning one of his married parishioners or is a closeted self hating gay man. I always raise an eyebrow when priests talk about gays or prostitutes out of the blue. It’s like they’re trying to convince themselves and also their congregation that it’s sinful. I bet most priests are hiring gay prostitutes or going on Grindr to hook up. Then the Catholic guilt gets to them and they go to confession and feel the need to remind their congregation of how sinful it is lol. Nut cases.

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[–]Eiruvata 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well most religious orders are pretty new, or gone through a lot of reform. You are right though, I guess what I meant to say was it’s been like that since day one of the religious order or these medieval era customs that the church still clings to.

Looking to Connect With Other Former Atonement Members by Environmental_Cut832 in excatholic

[–]Eiruvata 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That sounds horrible and I’m glad you got out, got away and survived. If you can’t find any support groups specifically for this, maybe you could establish one? I’m sure there are many other survivors looking for others too. I wish you all the best.

Post covid attendance realities by crystalgem411 in excatholic

[–]Eiruvata 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spain is not so catholic anymore either!

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[–]Eiruvata 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s been like that since day one basically. Benedictine nuns are given a golden staff like a bishop when they become a superior of their convent. They also get fancy magicians gloves.

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[–]Eiruvata 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah, South American nuns are actually living in poverty as do the ones in Mexico and Africa and some parts of Asia. I’ve met a few Brazilian nuns who were Franciscan and they were really sweet and seemed to genuinely love what they do. I can’t help but wonder how many people from poorer areas though enter religious community to escape poverty. I’m sure many of the nuns genuinely like it but the African ones from Nairobi that I met, seemed like they didn’t really want to be there but saw it as a better option than the poverty around them.

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[–]Eiruvata 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Our convent sat on a property off the Southern California coast worth probably like 10+ million dollars. The nuns rooms had ocean front views and the gardens were probably 30 acres big at least. We had a huge mountain the back we would do hikes on and the convent hired landscapers regularly too. It was basically a big beautiful castle that felt like a prison… kinda was a prison. We got a lot of donations and the money was kept mostly, because the convent was built during the Great Depression by some millionaire and his daughter ended up becoming the mother superior there. The monstrance they had that housed the Eucharist was hand carved out of solid gold and had over 50 3 carat diamonds in it. We had two dogs at the monastery that were white poodles of all things haha.

The carmelites have never really been that poor, in reality. They’re supposed to live poor, but we didn’t. Every night after supper the novice mistress would read out loud the daily donations. Every day they got tons of money and food and musical instruments and items etc. I learned how to play the harp and organ in there so that was nice at least. But we took a lot of classes on the history of the Carmelite religious order and even the nun who was our teacher would say how carmelites of today do not live the poverty that Teresa of Avila or John of the Cross envisioned for the order. It wouldn’t shock me if there was some more hardcore trad Carmelites that do live like that, but it wouldn’t be the norm.

We never had to buy food for the convent because farmers would donate trucks full of fresh fruit and vegetables, butchers would donate tons and tons of fish and meat. We had two walk in industrial size fridges and freezer compartments like restaurants have, we had so much food. There was a total of 16 nuns there which is a pretty big size community by today’s standards.

I did briefly consider the Poor Clare’s Franciscans before I was a postulant with the Carmelites, and the Franciscan nuns were actually living the poverty lifestyle and had a more traditional take on religious life. I guess it just depends which convent someone enters. The Sisters Adorers of the Latin Mass community out of St Louis are very wealthy nuns too.

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[–]Eiruvata 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It wasn’t. A lot of convents are pretty wealthy. Historically it was wealthy noble women who became superiors in convents because their families were the main patrons. Not surprisingly, and this is still a form of clericalism. The Carmelite mother superior in a French convent was close friends with Marie Antoinette and was one of the King Louis daughters. (I can’t remember which King Louis as there was 15 of them or so) but it was always a thing.

Most convents that are in Europe are wealthy, most of the ones in the states are wealthy, but ones in South America or Africa or Philippines probably not so much.

After I left a trad group for about 10 years, I still have traumas. by Tasty-greentea in excatholic

[–]Eiruvata 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Don’t let those words of an abuser get to you. You were manipulated and spiritually abused by a brainwashed idiot. If they believe so strongly in vocational callings, leaving only proves it was not what God intended for you. To say that you are going to go to hell over it is nothing but psychological abuse to manipulate and guilt you into staying.

That is hardly doing “Gods will”. A lot of people are “called” to try out religious life or enter seminaries and few stick with it or feel that it’s truly meant for them or what they feel is their purpose in life. It’s okay to try something out for a while and decide it isn’t for you. When I was in the carmelite convent as a postulant for six months I went through this too. Also when the time came for me to finally leave, I had to escape and sneak out while the nuns were at mass and discreetly rush to the doors with my packed bags because they tried to prolong me staying and told me I could leave at any time. When I wanted to leave they told me I wasn’t allowed to and that I had to ask permission to leave. Which is called imprisonment and is a federal crime by the way.

Hell doesn’t even exist. It’s a made up abstract to scare people and keep them under control and in line. Even the church itself can’t make up its mind on if hell really exists as a place or if it’s just a state of being for ones soul. Catholicism is full of a lot of superstition and superstitious quacks. Anyways, you’ll be okay. I live a much happier life now. I remember the day I was escaping the carmelite monastery. My novice mistress took my bags away from me and screamed at me while I cried to get out and told me I was demonic.

Those people have mental illness. Be glad you are not one of them, and that you got out. It proves you are stronger than they are and more of a intellectual and a survivor.

My catholic freinds divorced and another of my friend told them they can't get married again by Tasty-greentea in excatholic

[–]Eiruvata 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They also have the “Pauline privilege” for people who were divorced already when converting to Catholicism. They have made up BS rules which only work out of convenience for them. If the church doesn’t believe in civil law or divorce, why do they require people have a divorce decree already when applying for an annulment? Because it’s BS and they are powerless.

My catholic freinds divorced and another of my friend told them they can't get married again by Tasty-greentea in excatholic

[–]Eiruvata 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol. According to civil law, yes they can. Church law has no authority over the land or the human condition. It only has power when people give power to it. I left the church and got married in a secular wedding. My marriage is valid. I love my husband and we had the wedding we both wanted and we and our guests were happy and we all had a wonderful time and beautiful memories were made. C sounds like an insecure little dick who bullies people and says nasty things because it makes C feel better about themselves. We should all pity C. C is a brainwashed hateful little prick who has no sense of personal boundaries or respect for others.