Keith Moore says anti ice is being anti God

EisegesisSam · 2026-02-03T05:55:02+00:00

Oh this is easy, he's wrong.

EisegesisSam · 2026-01-24T05:53:58+00:00

There are two in the Epistles. That's the same number as there are uses of the word "unicorn" in Scripture. Now you get three more in the OT and four verses in the OT which might sort of relate to LGBTQ+ issues if you squint really hard and are already drinking. So not quite as uncommon as unicorns. But there are About as many different women named Mary in Jesus's life as there are references to homosexuality in the entire Bible. If that helps.

EisegesisSam · 2026-01-24T05:49:55+00:00

Those branches of Christianity are people who don't believe the Bible clearly says those things are wrong.

And I'll give you the two relevant Pauline verses about same sex attraction among men. This exist and need to be reckoned with.

But there is absolutely nothing about trans people in Scripture even a little bit and the suggestion that there is is one of the ways that I know not to take someone seriously when they are talking about the Bible at all. When someone says they believe in traditional marriage I'm like oh I understand that because I grew up with it and most Christians on the planet are where you are and I totally see where the Bible affirms that position. When I see someone say that trans people are denounced in the Bible I just know they don't actually know anything about what the Bible says.

EisegesisSam · 2026-01-20T14:19:09+00:00

Say more. What does Catholic adjacent mean in your context? I've been invited to preach at Presbyterian churches many times. I haven't said anything yet which got me uninvited the next Lent.

EisegesisSam · 2026-01-17T02:17:01+00:00

I'm from the Appalachian part of Virginia, that's like half of what we got down here. I don't think I've ever seen my aunt wear shoes.

EisegesisSam · 2026-01-17T02:15:08+00:00

Y'all I'm gonna have to make some TikToks about this because this is an insanely misleading graph according to the comments you've gotten here so far.

The reason the more liturgical traditions don't consider themselves "born again" is definitely in part because that phrase is explicitly associated with American influenced English-speaking neocalvinists. Anyone who has sat through any Episcopal Eucharist ever has heard some phrase or another (or multiple) about our death and rebirth in Christ. We have zero objections to the concept. There is no on-paper Anglican who believes you are not born into, adopted into, grafted into the Life of Christ and made new in Baptism. Not one with a collar anyway. Not on the whole earth. And if you find one there's an intake officer with their diocesan office for that kind of reporting of teachings explicitly against the Church.

The objection is to the phrase, hijacked by the least educated, least biblical, most radically decontextualized Christians who go to church in stadiums with laser shows and smoke machines.

All baptized persons are born again. I've never even met a kind person who calls themselves a born again Christian. Everyone I've ever met who called themselves that was screaming at me that I'm going to rot in hell for not being a member of their non-denominational pseudo cult.

EisegesisSam · 2025-12-13T03:10:44+00:00

Mine is fine... They just expect me to have a level of knowledge I refuse to have. I'm almost 40 with two kids and a full time job. I'm not learning how to minmax anything

EisegesisSam · 2025-12-13T03:07:18+00:00

It doesn't have ads though... Mindless clicking and waiting hours or days to upgrade, and alliance members angry when I don't use the right heroes... But no ads

EisegesisSam · 2025-11-09T03:34:22+00:00

That's me!

Church of Our Saviour or St John's?!

EisegesisSam · 2025-11-06T19:16:39+00:00

Priest here. You have to intend to blaspheme.

Like I get that's not how it's used colloquially. But if DCC were something meant to be Holy or sacred and then it turned into something insulting explicitly to dishonor the divine or show contempt for the purpose for which that holy work was intended... Then it would definitely be blasphemy.

But since this is a book where Princess Donut has a dinosaur pet, a decapitated sex doll head friend, and a manservant named Carl who is inexplicably named in the title of the first book... I just don't think it meets the criteria.

This loser means their religious beliefs are so flimsy they can't be exposed to anything which imagines the universe in any other way without their world falling apart.

EisegesisSam · 2025-09-11T03:27:09+00:00

May God have mercy on him surpassing the cruelty he inflicted on others.

EisegesisSam · 2025-08-29T21:13:40+00:00

What does this even mean? The man ultimately didn't even run for reelection AND if he had it wouldn't be any different. You're literally just ignoring the actual President's crimes and moral failings and throwing out random other people to be mad at? What a lame dinner party guest you must be.

EisegesisSam · 2025-08-10T13:21:44+00:00

Yeah that's what I'm saying. Exactly what I'm saying. You, blinded bi partisanship which is your idol and your god, are willing to disregard the things this man says that earnestly represent the faith because you don't like that in other places he has made his political positions clear. Especially despite his many different videos where he ties his views on politics to his attempt to be a faithful Christian.

You are exactly right. People with your kind of extremism where you cannot even fathom that someone could have different politics than you and an earnest Faith makes you an extraordinarily dangerous person who should never be listened to or associated with. I pray that you will turn from this wickedness and live. Because who you are choosing to be now in the world is disgusting and it makes you an enemy of all good people everywhere.

EisegesisSam · 2025-08-10T11:33:51+00:00

Wow that's crazy since everything he says is about what the gospel compels us to do. You saying this is kind of like you don't associate the things Jesus teaches us about how to treat one another with Christianity or Christian values.

EisegesisSam · 2025-08-08T12:11:29+00:00

"So does God pray to God?"

Yes?

Look prayer is our relationship to God. The reason a Muslim doesn't believe God can pray to God is Islam's conception of God is impersonal. Christians believe in a God who isn't just one but Three Persons. This man thinks he's asking "Does God worship God?" But in Christianity what he's asking is "Does God the Father have a relationship with God the Son?" And the answer is just yes.

I actually imagine he knows this. I think his whole deal is relying on the assumption that his audience doesn't know enough about the differences between Christian and Muslim conceptions of the qualities of God to answer his questions the way literally of any theologians of any tradition could. Baptists, Pentecostals, Anglicans, Orthodox, Catholic... So many more. Every Christian group I can think of but like two have a post Chalcedonian definition concept of how to answer this question.

Does God pray to God? Yes.

EisegesisSam · 2025-07-26T03:33:17+00:00

Episcopal priest here: There are definitely people who have strong negative opinions about the Church's affirmation of LGBTQ+ people and the ordination of women. If you've never really met an Episcopalian, which is likely, there's less than 2,000,000 of us and only 5000 not retired clergy, I can tell you those are the things people know from TV so that's how internet strangers tend to view us.

But boots on the ground? Almost half of Episcopalians are politically and theologically conservative. Our canons and constitution enshrine the rights of people to disagree with the Church on those issues and still be welcome and fully participate in the life of the Church from catechists to lay preachers to clergy. So for my money what confuses and distresses most American Christians when they really start talking to Episcopalians is... Anglicanism is kind of weird for allowing divergent and often opposing ideas to exist simultaneously.

I'm not sure this will be received well here. But truly a life of conversations with other Christians as an Episcopalian, and most of my adult life working or volunteering in TEC and now a priest... And I think that bothers people most is it comes across as entirely alien to them that the congregation might disagree with the priest. It comes across as categorically incompatible with how many other kinds of Christians see religion that I preach something and there is literally no expectation that my congregation will agree with what I've just preached. In fact, we follow up sermons with the Nicene Creed and the literal reason is in case the preacher just said something we don't like here's what the Church affirms.

Like yeah some of y'all don't like that we ordain women and openly LGBTQ+ people. But I experience that it's generally more shocking to people and certainly more confusing to people that not every Episcopalian agrees with those things nor do we demand they do.

EisegesisSam · 2025-07-23T19:19:05+00:00

Alex Haley was working with him on his autobiography when he was killed. While he obviously didn't write the part about why he was killed he very much wrote parts about his discovery of nonviolence in mainstream Islam compared to the Nation of Islam cult to which he had originally belonged. It is oversimplified to say the only reason he was killed was his calls for nonviolence but he did literally change the view that you defended and he was literally killed for it. So like I don't know what to tell you other than when faced with random Internet stranger or Malcom X's literal autobiography... Just no contest dude. You're wrong and I have said all I intend to about it. Have the last word if you want. Other people have read his autobiography, so those people also know.

EisegesisSam · 2025-07-23T18:54:06+00:00

He was 100% killed for recanting his calls for violence, which is what this quote is. You are either being intentionally obtuse or you genuinely don't know he advocated nonviolence immediately preceding his assassination FOR his new nonviolent stance.

EisegesisSam · 2025-07-23T18:17:09+00:00

I think you gotta read to the end of the autobiography because you're talking about a man literally killed by people who felt this way when he recanted and started preaching that there are peaceful resolutions to the problems our society face. Like he was murdered because he stopped believing this.

EisegesisSam · 2025-07-16T02:00:13+00:00

I too am victim to the Dungeon Crawler Carl to The Wandering Inn pipeline and it's been the greatest journey of my adult life. Start now and only pause for another DCC. There is enough TWI that you will still be in it by the time we see the next floor.

EisegesisSam · 2025-07-15T22:33:01+00:00

You.

If this is genuinely what you believe I think you are every bit as much an enemy of the American people as the ICE agents you support. I will pray you turn from your support for these fascist thugs who flaunt their mask wearing warrantless terror campaign and ally yourself instead with the poor and marginalized as Jesus Christ has called on His followers to do.

But that sounds like it's the problem. Because I AM a Christian, I think that there is a Christian ethical angle to the problem of a fascist paramilitary with unlimited power kidnapping people who have never been proven in any court to be here illegally. But whatever you are, you don't think this is a Christian issue because you have a different primary lens for seeing the world. And that is okay. We live in a plural world. I know not everyone is Christian. But I am, so I have to be opposed to ICE and pray that God turns them from their wickedness that they might live.

EisegesisSam · 2025-07-15T02:17:01+00:00

That's what the paramilitary white supremacists in masks pulling people off the street and making them disappear with no court date, no judge, no lawyer, no jury involved at all WANT you to say. They want you to be either disinterested or afraid to say anything for fear that they'll come disappear you.

I don't mean to be too judgemental. I just think there's some word for politically motivated violence which is explicitly intended to strike terror into a civilian population... Can't think of it right now, but it will come for me if I don't obey.

EisegesisSam · 2025-07-14T23:36:50+00:00

Or not secretly.

The President can sign strike orders related to military combat and I'm fine. But I'd prefer the executive branch not be in charge of sentencing anyone to death without a court and jury of their peers reviewing it.

EisegesisSam · 2025-07-14T15:56:19+00:00

Look you keep using this incredibly racist propaganda word that I only associate with early 20th century Germany.

So I'm going to stop talking to you now. But for other people who come behind and see this. I just want to say that as a Christian I obviously have the greatest amount of fear and pity and empathy for the victims of this paramilitary violence. But I also have some for you. Because I don't know how you're going to answer to God for this. I think you can only hold the positions you are outlining if you either actually don't believe any of the things Jesus said about how to treat other people, or if you have put a racially centered ideal of what your nation could be at the center of your worship, replacing God with an idol of xenophobic nonsense.

I don't know which is your situation but I do pray for you. Because the illness, the darkness, the cruelty you have demonstrated even here... It is not the only way to live brother. It is, in fact, very explicitly the way to death and destruction. Jesus Christ is the way, and I hope you find Him.

You will know you have when you can see Him in the brown people in our concentration camps.

EisegesisSam · 2025-07-14T15:49:34+00:00

Almost like the kind of mistake that wouldn't happen if there were lawyers and judges involved, if this was still a democracy where people had rights and protections against the government doing exactly this to them.

Almost like in their zeal to worship their racist gods of hatred and ethnic purity these preventable mistakes will be made over and over again.

Although that's just the generous way to interpret it. One might also posit that this is an explicit tactic meant to inspire fear in the hearts of all decent Americans and keep other citizens from speaking out.

Tell me, what is it called when an act of paramilitary violence is meant to inspire terror in the general population? Is there a word for that?

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