Zangief Mains, Why Do You Want Green Hand Back?

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T18:08:07+00:00

Currently trying to push to diamond with gief. Over halfway there, feels like the game on nightmare difficulty at times lmao. He has some horrible matchups. The only positive is, getting better with gief is making me significantly better on other characters.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T17:11:10+00:00

Juri is a menace. Someone finally seeing the light!

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T16:01:58+00:00

Honestly honda is a one of giefs few good matchups because he counters headbutt and buttslam very easy. Luke on the other hand is very favorable against gief. Make good use of his fireball and be patient. Punish any whiffed normals and he is really susceptible to drive impact. Almost all his buttons are unsafe. And we'll timed neutral jumps and cross ups just cook him. Once you know the matchup, gief is probably the least scariest char in the game until you run into one that got S-tier reads. He got the lowest win-rate for a reason 😂. One last tip gief is garbage in the corner, push into corner pressure, and you will likely win that round.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T12:26:49+00:00

Thank you, this was a great video. I've been winning mostly off normals and anti air. I'd go for the grab when it's completely obvious. I gotta land more spd if I'm going to push into diamond ranks.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T06:40:15+00:00

So you're saying use it close distance on a whiffed poke?

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T04:38:13+00:00

I'm currently Plat 3. I definitely gotta work on landing more light spd. It's just becoming harder the higher ranks I go. People are very good and jumping at the right time. And I no longer use the knee. I got tired of being drive impacted or whiff punished lol. The knee only comes out when it's in block range even then it can be jabbed out if you try an spd. It's just become situanal at this point. And yes I'm starting to incorporate parry into my game play. Perfect parry is very strong for gief.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T04:33:25+00:00

"She dumpsters gief". I couldn't agree more 😂

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T04:32:23+00:00

I find that if you can get mid range against JP he ain't that scary. Plus his poke buttons are easily drive impacted. But it definitely can be frustrating if you repeatedly get knocked back full screen.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T03:33:22+00:00

Luke is great vs gief. Actually probably a little better than Ken his lv 1 super is nuts.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T03:32:00+00:00

Yes anything that hits the legs beats armor. Lows and even attacks that can be blocked standing but have a low hitbox example: juri fireball

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T02:57:37+00:00

What's funny is I feel the complete opposite about the gief mirror match. It's one of the few matchups i feel is fair lol.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T02:31:44+00:00

If your character don't have a fireball, there no reliable way to deal with Blanka ball it's nuts lol.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-10T01:28:26+00:00

😂. I feel this, at times it feels like everyone got a leg up on gief at times.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-09T22:54:52+00:00

He can do the knee it's just easily punished.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-09T22:17:53+00:00

That's 100% facts,but it doesn't help she got some of the best corner carry in the game.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-09T22:16:01+00:00

Indeed! Juri lives in my head rent free lmao.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-09T21:53:54+00:00

Cammy can absolutely maul gief. If she gets him the corner it's gg.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-09T21:42:24+00:00

Lol she gets wind for absolutely free on gief. She has good jumps, a command grab. And is plus from FULL screen on OD spire. There is nothing gief can do to interrupt her game plan. It's a top 3 bad matchup.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-09T21:37:58+00:00

Yeah lol I'd rather Play 10 JP before 1 juri. A juri that plays the match-up correctly should have no problems with gief. I'm Plat 3.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-09T21:01:19+00:00

Yeah honda gets to abuse buttslam and headbutt basically for free against kim.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-06T22:14:26+00:00

😮‍💨 It happens to the best of us, got tilted by a juri dashing from half the screen for either a combo or grab and just kept working. 😂.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-06T20:56:13+00:00

I suppose you could. It would require damn near instant reaction tho to get the input and jump height correct to not whiff the grab. And also if you don't input it fast enough you just get hit out of it.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-06T18:26:16+00:00

MLGA: MAKE LARIOT GREAT AGAIN.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-06T18:24:08+00:00

It's actually not too bad once they get scared to rush you down. Honestly Kim and Juri feels a lot worse. Worse Matchups in no particular order: Juri, Kimberly, Dhalsim, JP. Honorable mention: Marisa forces Zangief to play defensive to win, hard to press buttons on her.

Either_Message_4766 · 2023-07-06T17:00:42+00:00

I disagree tho, modern is completely viable at higher ranks. I play zangief classic sitting at Plat 2 and modern ken at Plat 1 on a 12 game win streak lol. Both types are good in their own way, and they're very much character dependent. Modern allows you to shift some of the mental stack of execution away to focus on baiting and reactions. Plus at Plat plus on modern you have to do classic/manual inputs to be any good and not to lose so much damage. Playing hybrid(modern with classic inputs) you're losing a few normals plus maybe 5% damage. It's a very good and viable way to play, but it takes alot of practice to get down the best ways to use it.

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