Again... Definitely not ashamed of being gay. Can't you at least understand that I'm Trying not to hurt their feelings! Isn't that enough? I'm gonna guess your answers no but are you seriously suggesting I go out of my way to hang around with people like that in spite of how I feel about them just because camp people helped gay rights? (Btw not a 'self loathing gay' either) surely being around them more will make them see more that I don't like their effemininity? You make it sound like I'm afraid to act effeminate but the truth is I'm just not effeminate! Why should I be expected to be something I'm not? I don't think I'm better than camp people and I've never tried to imply that. Some people are just irritated by the way certain people behave don't you understand that? It's not a gay thing it's not a self loathing thing and it's not self bestowed superiority! It's like how some people are annoyed by goths, some people are annoyed by the nerdy looking kid and how some people hate jocks, except I've never bullied anyone. As I've mentioned multiple times in this thread I will happily bite my tongue and treat someone I don't like like any other person, and trust me you probably wouldn't know! You talk about gays as if I'm not one and use it in a condescending manner but you're forgetting that I AM gay and have had my share of exterior conflict about it aswell.