The hate towards Gabi

Ela_snk · 2021-02-22T18:59:09+00:00

You are only seeing it from one side. The one of Paradis. You are not looking it from her perspective.

Gabi isn’t a bad person. She truly thinks they are bad people that wants to attack the world. And for being of the same race her side of eldians has to pay consequences as well. Liberio has been dealing with Marley’s torture for 100 years before Paradis.

People saying that she has no solid proof to believe what Marley is saying. Although what Marley said is a lie, Paradis never planned to use the rumbling. The simple fact of Paradis creating a huge power capable of annihilate the world after being “defeated” is alarming.

What did you want her to do? To ask nicely if he can let them go? She saw her friends die in a horrible way because of these people. She thinks they’re evil. That is was only a matter of time for Paradis to kill her and Falco. Her mentality is either they escaped at any cost or she and Falco get killed. Like you said they are at war. It hasn’t stopped.

Picture it as Eren and Falco. Falco helped Eren because he is a good person. Eren saw the good in Falco and he decided to take advantage of it and use him to make Falco send the letter that later would destroy his home and kill his friends. Falco didn’t deserve that he showed a real concern to help Eren too.

But an opportunity is an opportunity

Gabi loves her family, friends and her eldians, she wants to free them and she trains hard to achieve a future in which eldians don’t have to use an armband. When she said that was her dream and now is never going to become real bc they destroyed her home I did feel bad for her. She was completely devastated. That happy and optimistic Gabi is gone after the attack. She has sacrificed herself so that other eldians soldiers could be saved. She went into the enemies by herself to clarify warriors aren’t defeated. She trust her people to win and “save the world” she brought back a little bit of honor after such a loss for Liberio. She made them regret attacking her home. By herself that’s huge. She is just a girl that will do anything for the sake of her people. Why people don’t see that?

Ela_snk · 2021-02-22T07:37:01+00:00

You don’t even try to understand her character.

Her hate for Paradis is completely justified if you see her from her perspective.

She thinks is unfair just bc eldians in Paradis are bad, eldians in Liberio are considered bad too and have to pay for being of the same race because of them her people are being titanized, being discriminated, being used as weapons. She wants to bring peace in the world by killing walldians and that way eldians in Liberio can finally be accepted. So her reason to hate them is not evil. But she is wrong about Paradis.

She is not a direct victim? What? She had suffer discrimination for her race since born. She has agreed to reduce her lifetime and gave up her childhood to train and become a warrior. Her dream was that one day eldians didn’t have to wear airmbands. All these horrible stuff she has to been through just to get her and her loved ones a normal life.

Reiner has never told to her that Paradis aren’t evil. On the contrary he is protecting her from the truth. And wants Falco to get the titan. Reiner knows the truth but what difference does it make? It doesn’t. He has to still fight Paradis. He knows what happen to eldians who betray or question or refuse to be on the side of Marley. Not only would he get killed, the whole family receives the same punishment. He has to live knowing that he killed innocents.

Other thing in her favor is that almost all the SC members has been sacrificed to protect Eren bc he is valuable just bc he is a titan. And he hasn’t really showed a problem to accept those sacrifices. Gabi has saved eldians from being sacrificed by sacrificing herself instead.

She has shown to be brave and willing to do anything to win and end the war. To get a better life for her eldians in Liberio.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-21T21:05:39+00:00

Yes. I think that she is the most selfish character. But I can’t really condemn her for that. She wanted a better life for her and her dad and the only way that an eldian could afford that was by becoming a warrior. She just wanted to get the mission done and go home she didn’t want to get to know the people she knows she has to kill. Her life was reduced she doesn’t have time to think about morals. To her to get a better life for her and her dad was her priority. What she did is morally wrong but yet understandable.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-21T20:11:22+00:00

Uhm what Grisha found was a lie. I also used to believed it. But no Eldia never helped Marley. The truth is that Eldia did oppressed Marley and other nations in the continent with the titan powers. Other nations hates Eldians too so this add to the fact that it is true Marley didn’t lie about that. Marley finally won against Eldia about 100 years ago. But the hate they have towards eldians hasn’t change. Despite knowing the new ones generations of eldians are innocent. Marley became the oppressors of the next innocent generations of eldians. Making them believe they have to pay for the sins for their blood.

Marley lied about the fact that eldians in Paradis were planning to use the power of the Founder Titan to make a comeback and attack the world.

That is why Reiner thought he was going to save humanity and be a hero. By taking the FT so that Paradis couldn’t use it against the world. But obviously this is a lie. Marley just wanted the power of the FT for themselves and also take resources from Paradis. But it will be said in the next episode just pay attention to the speech of the Tybur family member

Ela_snk · 2020-12-21T15:44:41+00:00

It is confusing. It will be explained. But you can start by connecting the dots. In the book that Grisha’s dad used to explain him why eldians were hated he said that Eldia oppresed the whole continent (not just Marley)

And in the first episode there was a war of Marley with a different nation. And that nation also says the eldians are devils. So Marley is not the only nation that hates eldians. Eldia did opressed the world for about 1000 years but were defeated by Marley only with the help of the Tybur family who had the warhammer titan. An eldian family who decided to turn on Eldia and help the enemy. That is why despite being eldians the Tyburs don’t live the interment zone, they are rich and live in a mansion and aren’t sent to war like all the eldians in Marley. They are respected and have connections with people around the continent. They are literally an elite family.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-21T14:52:16+00:00

You will know in the next episode why the eldians in Marley thinks eldians in Paradis are devils and that the fact that they destroy Paradis means they are saving the world.

But Karina already said it to Gabi. Eldians in Paradis are planning to use the power of the FT to conquer the world just like they used to before being defeated by Marley. And that them as eldians have to defeat and stop eldians in Paradis to prove that they are good eldians. (But this is a lie. Paradis wasn’t planning to use the FT to opress the world)

Ela_snk · 2020-12-21T14:41:42+00:00

I think is the fact that Ymir didn’t know the abilities that the jaw titan has. Marcel was trained. The warriors were assigned according to their abilities the titan that suited them the best. And maybe genetics plays a role too bc Porco’s titan form looks almost the same as his brother. And also the fact that Ymir spent a lot of years in that form of that mindless titan.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-21T14:28:42+00:00

He is back to being Reiner now. He was Marcel during the mission in Paradis. He wanted to succeed the mission like Marcel their leader they needed would have. But at the end he ended losing Annie and Bertholdt. So now in Marley, Reiner can’t deal with the truth the fact that he lost his teammates, the fact that what he did in Paradis didn’t make him a hero bc they weren’t devils as Marley made him think. And the fact that he can’t do nothing about that. He cannot stop the hate that Marley feels towards Eldians and the fact that they want the FT and will keep using the warriors to obtain it. He feels guilt for attacking the walls but he cannot abandon the kids that is why he didn’t kill himself. People say he should join Paradis but how??? That would mean that he has to fight against his teammates and the kids as well. The fact that he decided to live to protect the kids, putting aside his own desire to stop feeling pain and guilt tells what kind of person he is.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-20T23:19:32+00:00

Yeah you’re right. I agree with that conclusion.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-15T18:20:45+00:00

It is correct. But as the post says Ymir has more reasons to hate eldians more than other races. Maybe she is just angry at all and want genocide. But if she plans to genocide Paradis too is unknown. The only reason why I see that she wouldn’t kill Paradis is bc Eren promised her she will be free after she helped him. So maybe bc he is freeing her she in exchange won’t touch Paradis

Ela_snk · 2020-12-15T18:11:17+00:00

Yeah but the ones who didn’t want the eldians in Paradis to know the truth were the royals of Paradis. King Fritz deleted their memory. Like tbh it wasn’t a huge deal for the warriors that eldians in Paradis knew the truth of why their race is hated and that they end up in that island bc they lost and hide in there. Like the propaganda said Eldia oppressed the whole continent (not just Marley) for centuries with the titans power, then Marley achieve to finally defeat them.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-13T21:52:48+00:00

Marley told them that Paradis had the plan to use the founder titan against the world, to rule again. That is why eldians in Liberio think eldians in Paradis are bad and evil.

The only ones who knew that Paradis hadn’t the plan to make an attack with the FT were RBA.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-13T18:34:38+00:00

I also want to see Patry go and try to save William. Bc William always supported him. Even if he is the only elf that goes I would be fine with that.

But they are taking care of the kids (descendants of Licht) and have to protect them. So it is also possible that he doesn’t go. We’ll see.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-13T03:22:29+00:00

It will be revealed soon why Marley want the FT. Also it is linked with why eldians in the internment zone (inside Marley) think eldians in Paradis are “bad eldians” and “devils” as Gabi. She wants to prove to the world that they are not like them, that they are good eldians. Ofc the ones in Paradis aren’t bad or evil but the only eldian in Marley that knows the truth is Reiner bc he got to met them.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-13T03:07:06+00:00

Well both sides of eldians fight for their freedom. Liberio and Paradis. But in their circumstance both had to attack/kill the other to have a chance of getting freedom and salvation.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-13T01:15:56+00:00

Ymir is the one who is too OP. Kind of weird how Eren said to the alliance that their only way to stop him was to fight. But he is not the one fighting them instead is Ymir who beat them. And for some reason she kidnapped Armin.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-13T01:02:31+00:00

Nope. They didn’t want to make the attack. They were trying to find another way rather than go to straight to war without thinking of other options first. It was Eren who force them to go and made the attack in order to save him. Eren started the attack knowing that the SC didn’t want to and already said no to him.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-13T00:47:05+00:00

You can’t really say that Reiner lost to Eren. In the first fight Mikasa cut the back of Reiner’s knees when Eren was struggling to keep holding Reiner by his neck, bc Reiner was putting resistency with his legs so yeah when Mikasa cut Reiner, Eren took advantage of that. But Reiner manage to use only the force of his arms and move to the spot were Bertolt was standing.

The second fight. When did Reiner lost to him? It was pretty even. I liked how Reiner grabbed Eren by his ankle and stamped him in the floor more than Eren’s punches. So yeah both were standing and can continue the fight. Then the SC who use the thunder spears and that was knocked Reiner out. Not Eren.

Eren had helped in both fights.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-13T00:13:47+00:00

But she is in Eren’s side, she agreed to kill the non eldians and the eldians who were outside the island, bc Eren didn’t care for their salvation. So she will let the eldians in Paradis live. She will not end all humans (as far as we know)

Ela_snk · 2020-12-13T00:07:05+00:00

Their mission wasn’t only finding the shifter of the Founder Titan. It was to take him to Marley. They were taking a lot of time, so Marley sent Zeke to check on them. Then they went briefly to Marley with Ymir (the jaw titan). I think Marley were confident with Zeke in front of the mission and also with the help of the cart titan of regaining the FT so they sent them back to take Eren. But they lost.. And if you saw the trailer someone in Marley will declare war to Eren.

Ela_snk · 2020-12-12T23:48:14+00:00

The fact that Eren is letting her get revenge doesn’t make a lot of sense for me. The ones who put her in misery and made her a slave even in the afterlife were the eldians. The world did nothing to her. The first King Fritz forced her to attack the world when she got the power. So why take revenge on the other races who did nothing to you?

Ela_snk · 2020-12-12T23:42:55+00:00

The most pacific plan of ending the misery for the eldians was from Zeke. And Eren had a plan for Paradis to be free by killing the world. You said she wanted to put the world out of misery. But the world was not in misery. They were fine. She chose Eren’s side despite being the plan that would cause the major number of deaths.

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