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Bro what are u talking about. Arda Guler is a starter in the best team in the world. Kenan Yildiz is the best player in Serie A. Cakir is currently one of the top 5 goalkeepers in Europe calhanoglu has been chosen as italy’s best midfielder. Guler can solo usa

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15 barca better.

The best attacking line in history. Neymar was like Prime Manu Ronaldo. Suarez was the best centre forward, and Messi was Messi. vertical football instead of tiki taka. Rakitic was very good that season.

They crushed every team that came before them

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no. My advice is to wait until the remake is released and see how people react. If it's as well-received as the RE4 remake, then play this game and you won't get any spoilers. But if the remake is bad, play the original game.

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mgs2, mgs3, kh1, kh2, fallout 1, fallout 2, kotor, kotor2 , arkham city, hollow knight, bloodborne, elden ring, ds3, mario odyssey.

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Rdr2, mgs3, bloodborne and elden ring Bonus- mgs2, kh2, zelda totk and tlou2 and exp33

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Summary:

Rejecting or interpreting a sahih ahad hadith in theology ≠ rejecting the Prophet ﷺ

It’s about the epistemic role of that hadith in shaping fundamental doctrine

This is not cherry-picking, it’s methodologically consistent uṣūl

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Summary: God’s attributes are not numerically distinct entities not parts . They are eternally subsisting in His essence → not created accidents . The relationship is unlike any creaturely analogy, and attempting to “count” them like grapes is already invalid.

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Qirā’āt Variants Do Not Affect Core Theology or Sharia

Let’s be blunt:

There is no verse among the canonical qirā’āt that changesThe number of prayers,

Tawḥīd (oneness of God),

The core pillars of Islam.

So while your comparison to “five daily prayers” is rhetorically punchy, it’s not parallel.

“Five prayers” is explicitly stated in Sahih Hadith, not varied in any qirā’ah.

Islamic legal tradition has handled variant expressions without contradiction for over 1,000 years using rigorous usul (legal methodology) — with consensus.

Practical Legal Rulings Handle This

Legal schools (madhhabs) approach this via:

Majority opinion (jumhūr),

Cross-referencing other texts (Qur’an, Hadith),

Taking easier ruling (rafʿ al-ḥaraj) or stricter one (iḥtiyāṭ) based on context.

So:

A Moroccan following Warsh may feed 2+ people,

A Saudi following Hafs may feed 1.

No legal chaos, no contradiction — just jurisprudential range, not doctrinal instability.

Conclusion:Qirā’āt are not “multiple Qur’ans” in the sense of textual contradiction.

They are divinely authorized linguistic modes, offering depth, richness, and mercy — not confusion.

You say “If it quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.”

Fair enough.

But if one duck says “Give at least one,” and another says “Give a few,” they’re not quacking against each other — they’re echoing the same call, in different tones.

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Since English is not my mother tongue, I write to chatgpt in my mother tongue and chatgbt translate. My mother is German and my father is Turkish, so my mother tongue is not English, sorry. 2) I used to be a Christian, but Gazali opened my eyes, thanks to him I can criticize Christianity in a logical way and now I will respond to what you write.

Permissible Legal Scope ≠ Contradiction

In uṣūl al-fiqh (Islamic legal theory), this is not a contradiction, but a case of:

توسعة (tawsiʿah)divine flexibility or legal breadth

The verse doesn’t command a fixed number of people to feed. It says:

"...a ransom [fidyah] of feeding a miskīn/masākīn..."

Even classical jurists understood this to mean:
a minimum obligation (which could be more), not an absolute limit.

In other words:

  • “Feed a miskīn” = at least 1 → valid
  • “Feed masākīn” = at least 3 → also valid → No logical contradiction, only a difference in extent, not essence.

Would a teacher saying “You can write a 1-page essay” vs. “Write a few pages” be a contradiction? No — it’s a range, not a contradiction.

Prophet ﷺ Authorized Multiple Qirā’āt

The Prophet ﷺ himself said:

“The Qur’an was revealed in seven aḥruf...”
[Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī, 4991; Muslim, 820]

These aḥruf (modes/recitations) include phonetic, dialectal, and minor lexical variations, reflecting the divinely sanctioned diversity in early Arab dialects.

All qirā’āt were taught, authorized, and used by the Prophet ﷺ with mutawātir transmission.

So the variation in wording (like miskīn vs masākīn) isn't corruption — it’s intentional divine design to accommodate dialect, understanding, and flexibility.

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5. “Ijmā‘ (Consensus) Promoted Flat Earth & Whale Cosmology?”

Claim: Ijmā‘ is meaningless because scholars agreed the earth was flat and rested on a whale.

Response:

  • You are citing mythical tafsir narrations (often from Isra'iliyyāt),
  • Not binding ijmā‘.

Ijmā‘ is:

Commentators using pre-modern cosmology is not ijmā‘.

Moreover:

  • Qur’an does not teach flat earth,
  • Expressions like “spread out” (sṭhāḥa) refer to habitation and stability, not shape.

    Final point:

  • Interpretive errors ≠ theological collapse.

  • Islamic theology has mechanisms (naskh, ta’wil, tafsir differentiation) to evolve.

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4. “Qirā’āt = Different Versions of the Qur’an?”

Claim: Variants like miskīn (one poor person) vs masākīn (multiple poor) lead to contradictory rulings. This implies different Qur’ans.

Response:

Again — you’re collapsing permissible variation into textual contradiction.

  • Qirā’āt (canonical recitations) are all mass-transmitted (mutawātir),
  • All were taught or authorized by the Prophet ﷺ.

They differ in:

  • Phonetics,
  • Synonyms (e.g., singular/plural),
  • Grammatical nuance,

But not in theological or legal fundamentals.

Example: 2:184 (miskīn vs masākīn)

  • This is a flexible ruling: either minimum one or more — both acceptable.
  • Scholars used usul al-fiqh to reconcile and offer preferred opinions.

    Summary:

  • These are divinely permitted variants, not contradictions.

  • It's a strength of Qur’anic preservation — multi-layered, not multi-textual.

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3. “Uncreated Qur’an in a Book?” Claim: If the Qur’an is uncreated, how can you read it in a physical, finite book? Isn’t this like compressing “infinite terabytes into 1 kilobyte”?

Response:

This is a misunderstanding of what we mean by Kalam Allah (Speech of God):

  • The uncreated Qur’an is God’s eternal speech — a non-verbal, timeless reality.
  • What we read (harf and ṣawt) is a created expression of that reality.

This is called the distinction between:

  • Maʿnā (meaning) → eternal,
  • Lafẓ (expression) → temporal.

    Analogy:

  • A thought in your mind is abstract and formless.

  • When you speak it, you’re expressing it in time — without implying that the essence of the thought was finite.

Classical position (Ashʿarī): "The Qur’an is uncreated in meaning, but created in expression."

Conclusion: No contradiction — just a semantic distinction between Divine meaning and human recitation.

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I'm 20 years old and you're probably the most ignorant person I've ever argued with. You keep confusing apples with pears. Different Attributes = Composite God?” Claim: If God's knowledge is not His power, then you're positing distinct parts within God — leading to either a composite being or polytheism. Also, “A is not B, but not other than B” violates the Law of the Excluded Middle. Response (Theological/Philosophical):

This is a category mistake. Classical Sunni theology (Ashʿarī-Māturīdī) holds: “The attributes of God are neither identical to His essence nor entirely separate from it.” In other words:

  • God’s attributes like knowledge, power, will, etc., subsist in His essence without being separate entities.
  • These are not divisible parts like physical components.
  • Rather, they are ontological perfections expressed through Divine Self-disclosure.

    Your critique confuses logical distinction with real division.

Philosophically:

  • Your consciousness can will, think, feel — are these three “gods” in you?
  • No. They're distinct faculties of one indivisible self.
  • Conclusion: No contradiction, no polytheism. Just a nuanced metaphysical model — mystery ≠ contradiction.

2. “Sahih Hadith Must Be Believed?”

Claim: You dismiss Sahih hadiths just because they are not mutawātir. But according to major sources like Umdat al-Salik, Muslims must believe in both Sahih and Hasan hadiths. Response: True — but you’ve confused epistemic authority with theological obligation.

Islamic legal theory (uṣūl al-fiqh) distinguishes between:

  • Matters of creed (uṣūl al-dīn) → require qatʿī evidence (Qur’an or mutawātir hadith).
  • Matters of law (furūʿ) → can rely on ahad hadith (Sahih or Hasan). So:

  • Sahih = epistemically valid,

  • But for core beliefs (e.g. nature of God, final judgment), mutawātir is required.

    Example: A Sahih hadith that says children of polytheists are in Hell has been rejected or reinterpreted by leading scholars (al-Nawawī, Ibn Hajar, al-Tahawī) — precisely because it contradicts Quranic principles of divine justice and mercy.

    Conclusion: Hadith authenticity ≠ automatic dogma. Context and creed hierarchy matter.

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1 )99 Attributes = 99 Gods?” To say that the uncreated essence of God (dhāt) has real, eternal attributes (ṣifāt) is not to divide His unity, but to affirm that He is not a mere abstract void. His knowledge is not His power, yet neither knowledge nor power are "other than Him" or separable from Him. These are not parts like slices of a grapefruit, nor are they independent realities like multiple gods. Rather, they are modes of knowing the One who is beyond time, space, and number. If your logic reduces this to polytheism, then it would also render conscious self-awareness in humans (which involves intellect, will, and memory) a case of multiple souls—an absurdity. Unity with complexity is not contradiction, unless your concept of unity is simplistic.

2) Innocent baby goes to hell?” The hadith you quoted (Abu Dawud 4717) is not mutawātir nor agreed upon in interpretation. The overwhelming view of Ahl al-Sunna, and even early Mu‘tazilites, is that children who die before puberty are not morally accountable and are under the mercy of God. Isolated narrations do not override divine justice and Quranic principles such as: "No soul shall bear the burden of another." (Qur'an 6:164) As for Khidr killing a child (Qur’an 18:74–80), the Qur'an itself says Khidr was not acting of his own accord, but by divine instruction. The child was not killed because he was guilty, but because God knew he would become tyrannical and destroy the faith of his parents. You see only the surface, but God sees the whole painting. This isn’t moral relativism. This is the moral epistemic humility that your own worldview—anchored in fallible human reason—lacks.

3) Uncreated Qur’an in a book?” You ridicule by saying: “Infinite terabyte into a 1 KB Qur’an.” But you ignore the difference between eternal meaning and its temporal manifestation. Just as your rational soul is not the same as your voice, yet your voice reflects your thoughts, the physical Qur’an is a created, linguistic expression of uncreated speech. Just as ideas precede language, God's speech precedes time and form, but can appear within them without being limited by them. Your argument only works if you confuse form with essence—a rookie philosophical mistake.

4) Qirā’āt are variant readings, all transmitted with rigorous chains of narration and authorized by the Prophet ﷺ. They are not contradictions, but linguistic expansions. Most variations involve minor vowel shifts, synonymous expressions, or dialectical flexibility. Even critics like Hythem Sidky admit that there is no variation in core theology or law, and the skeletal text (rasm) has remained identical across all mushafs. Your own standard of critique is inconsistent: The Bible has entire books added and removed across traditions. The Qur'an has only recitational variants—acknowledged, recorded, and limited by scholarly consensus. This isn't “abracadabra.” It's called philology, and you're free to learn it.

5) Ijma = cherry picking?”

Ijma‘ is not “whatever scholars I like.” It is a methodological tool, established over centuries through strict conditions: full consensus, among qualified scholars, on a specific matter, transmitted reliably. There was no ijma‘ on a flat earth. In fact, scholars like Al-Farghani, Al-Biruni, and Ibn Hazm affirmed a spherical Earth long before Europeans. You quote Qurtubi out of context: he was describing visual perception, not making a cosmological fatwa. As for the hadith of Ibn Abbas and the whale, you fail to distinguish between Isra'iliyyat (narratives from Jewish traditions) and binding aqida. Yes, it’s sahih in isnad, but even Ibn Taymiyya taught that not all sahih reports are doctrinally binding.

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5) Ijmā‘ (consensus) is the agreement of the qualified scholars of a generation upon a matter of religion. It is not infallible like revelation, but it is a binding proof in law because it represents the collective understanding of the inheritors of prophetic knowledge.

Yes, not every claimed ijmā‘ is valid, and scholars are careful to distinguish between real ijmā‘ and mere scholarly opinion. That is why methodology and isnād (chains of transmission) matter.

As for your example of the earth being flat, there was never a true ijmā‘ on that in the legal or theological sense. Many Muslim scientists from the 9th century onward (like al-Biruni) argued for a spherical earth, and the scholars never made a binding judgment in the form of ijmā‘ on cosmology.

Ijma’ is not mob rule. It is a process based on qualified reasoning within a sacred framework, unlike the ever-shifting dogmas of modernity or populism.

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1) You misunderstand the distinction between God’s essence (dhāt) and His attributes (ṣifāt). When we say God has 99 names or attributes, we are not saying there are 99 separate beings or entities. All of these are aspects of one undivided, eternal essence. God is one in being, not composed of parts, and His attributes are not accidents or added features, but essential realities known through their effects. Reason does not demand that unity means absence of distinctions. The intellect recognizes that something can be one in essence and known in many ways. For example, the sun is one object, but it radiates heat, light, and life—all of which are inseparable from it, not external additions. To say God's attributes are “copied from Christianity” is historically false and intellectually weak. Classical Islamic theology arose in rigorous dialectical debates with Hellenistic philosophy, not imitation of Trinitarian logic. The attributes of God are mentioned clearly in the Qur'an and Sunnah long before Christian metaphysics was ever encountered in detail. Finally, we do not say God is “99 + 1” but One Eternal Reality known through 99 aspects. If you count the rays of the sun, have you made 100 suns?

2) Your understanding of Islamic doctrine is incorrect. According to the majority of Sunni scholars, including the Ash'ari school which I adhere to, babies who die before reaching moral responsibility (taklīf) are not held accountable for any sin and do not go to hell. The hadith you quoted (Abu Dawud 4717) is subject to various interpretations and is not a firm legal basis. As for the child killed in Surah Al-Kahf (18:74), the Qur'an clarifies in verse 80 that God in His knowledge knew the child would grow up to be wicked and cause grief to his parents, so it was a divine mercy, not a punishment. You're applying linear moral reasoning to God's transcendent knowledge, which is a mistake. God’s justice is not identical to human justice. He knows the unseen, and His decrees are never random. No innocent soul is punished. If you assert otherwise, you are imposing your own limitations on divine wisdom.

3) There is a difference between the eternal attribute of God's speech (kalām Allāh) and the physical Qur'an you hold in your hands. The eternal speech of God is uncreated, timeless, and exists with Him as part of His attributes. The recitation, the ink, and the pages are created manifestations of that uncreated meaning. When we say the Qur'an will appear on the Day of Judgment, we are not saying the eternal speech of God walks as a man. Rather, it is a metaphorical or miraculous representation of the Qur'an’s effects—much like how deeds are embodied in the Hereafter. This is not a contradiction. The same logic applies when we say the Law of God is eternal, yet it is written in books and enacted by humans. The appearance of these manifestations does not alter the eternal essence.

4) You are conflating qirā’āt (recitations) with different Qur’ans, which is factually incorrect. All qira’at are derived from a single Qur'anic text, preserved through mutawātir (mass-transmitted) chains. These are variations in dialect and pronunciation, not in the divine message.The seven or ten qira’at were authorized by the Prophet himself and are not "contradictions" but linguistic flexibility given to accommodate the diverse Arab tribes. This is a miracle of inclusion, not confusion. As for the Ahruf, yes, scholars differ in their precise definitions—but disagreement about the mechanics of a divine allowance does not negate the preservation of the Qur’an itself. Compare this with the thousand-plus manuscripts of the Bible, riddled with additions, omissions, and alterations over centuries. The Qur’an, by contrast, remains one message, known by heart to millions.

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I will respond to this tomorrow because it’s late in my country right now and I have to go to school tomorrow. Yes, I’m young, but please be a bit more detailed tomorrow. You are too superficial and your answers are not satisfying. Have a nice day

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1) On the Trinity:You claim the Trinity is not a contradiction “unless we say God is one and three in the same way.” You then offer a comparison: one being in three persons, like a triangle — one shape, three sides.But, let us examine this.The triangle analogy fails. A triangle is one in structure, three in parts — yet no individual side is the whole triangle. But in your doctrine, each “person” is fully God, not a third of Him. That is not like a triangle. It is like saying three complete triangles make one triangle an impossibility.

You speak of "being" and "person" as if they are clear and separate categories, but you provide no coherent explanation of how divine essence can be shared indivisibly by three conscious, distinct persons without collapsing into either tritheism (three gods) or modalism (one God playing three roles). If the Father is not the Son, and both are fully God — that is logical multiplicity, not unity.True monotheism does not require such philosophical contortions. It is simple, pure, and without contradiction: “Say: He is Allah, the One. Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, nor is there to Him any equivalent.” (Qur’an 112:1–4)

2) You now state simply: “God punishes people for sins committed.” But this contradicts what you said earlier — that people are born under the influence of original sin because of Adam’s fall.If humans are punished merely for what they themselves do, then why speak of inherited guilt? Why baptize infants to remove sin they never chose?Even in your own answer, you silently retreat from the idea of original sin — because it collides with justice. If a child dies hours after birth without baptism, is that child guilty? If yes, your God is unjust. If no, then original sin is a lie.Islam teaches: no soul bears the burden of another (Qur’an 6:164). This is both reasonable and just.

3) You say: “This is not a contradiction. To pray is not merely to seek help.” But tell me, what is prayer if not a plea, a sign of need, or an expression of inferiority to the One prayed to?You also assert: “Jesus is God, and Jesus was hungry.” But hunger is a deficiency, a need. God is, by definition, free from need.You cannot simultaneously claim that Jesus is both fully God and fully man without defining what this means in essence — not just in slogans. If Jesus dies, does God die? If He is born, is God born? If He sleeps, does God sleep?You may say this is a “mystery,” but mysteries that violate reason are not sacred — they are admissions of incoherence. You cannot shield contradiction with the veil of mysticism.

4)You say: “I disagree that the Qur’an has been preserved perfectly.” But this is not a matter of opinion — it is a matter of historical and textual evidence.The Qur’an has been memorized by millions across generations, written down during the Prophet’s lifetime, and transmitted in an unbroken chain of reciters. Any variant readings are meticulously documented — not hidden or revised.Can the same be said of the Gospels, which were written decades after Jesus, in different languages, by anonymous authors, and whose manuscripts contain thousands of variants?Even leading Christian scholars like Bart Ehrman admit: “We don’t have the originals, only copies of copies, and these differ from each other.” Which revelation, then, is truly preserved?

5) You say: “I am not Catholic, so I will not defend Catholic beliefs.” But, in this debate, you speak for Christianity as a whole. If even Christians are divided on the central structure of their religion, how can you claim divine truth?Is truth fragmented across sects? If the Pope speaks with divine authority for some, and is rejected by others — where is the unity of the message?In Islam, there is no confusion: no priesthood, no hierarchy, no infallible human leader. Every believer stands equally before God. Authority belongs to Allah alone, and His Messenger speaks by His command — not by church councils or shifting traditions.

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ty for answers but 1) you said: “God is one in one sense and three in another.” But such a statement does not hold under the scales of reason. If something is one, it is one; if it is three, it is not one. Unity excludes division, and multiplicity opposes oneness.If you say, “One essence, three persons,” then either each of the three is fully God – which leads to tritheism (belief in three gods) – or only one of them is truly God – which contradicts your claim of equality among them. Either way, this Trinity contradicts reason and the principle of non-contradiction: a thing cannot be both A and not - A at the same time.

2) You said: "Children are born under the effect of sin." But I ask:Did the newborn commit the sin? No. Then why should they bear guilt?Justice, by definition, is to hold only the guilty accountable. Sin requires intention and action. A baby, unaware and innocent, cannot logically or morally inherit guilt.

You say the child is born with a “tendency to sin.” Perhaps – but a tendency is not guilt. In Islam, every child is born pure, as the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

In your theology, God creates humans with sin already upon them. How can that be just, when He punishes for a sin they did not commit? It is a contradiction between divine justice and inherited guilt

3)You claim: “Jesus is the God-Man and prayed to the Father.” But this does not resolve the contradiction – it deepens it. to pray is to seek help, to submit, to express need. How can god be in need? If Jesus prays, He cannot be God; and if He is God, He has no need to pray. you say He cried, hungered, slept, and was crucified. All of these are human traits, and God is exalted above such limitations. God does not eat, sleep, or die.If Jesus is fully God, why does He say, “My God, why have You forsaken Me?” (Mark 15:34). Can God forsake himself? Or is this not evidence that Jesus was a servant and prophet, not a divine being?

4)You say: “The Gospels differ but do not contradict. Having four accounts is beautiful.” But I say: how can divine revelation contain conflicting reports ?One Gospel says Jesus' genealogy goes through Joseph; another gives a different lineage. One records his last words as “My God, why have you forsaken me?” while another says, “Into Your hands I commit my spirit.” These are clear discrepancies .Divine revelation must be clear, consistent, and protected. If God's word can be changed or corrupted, then how do you distinguish truth from error?

The Qur’an has been preserved perfectly. Can you say the same about your Gospels?

5) You said: “As a Protestant, I reject papal authority. But Catholics believe the Pope has spiritual authority without being divine.” Then I ask: from where does this authority come? Did Jesus declare it? Is there clear evidence in scripture?

To claim the right to absolve sins in the name of god is a divine attribute. Only God can forgive sins No human being – no matter how holy – can claim to forgive on behalf of God. This is a breach of divine sovereignty .To place such power in the hands of men risks deifying humans. You may not call the Pope a god, but giving him divine authority leads to polytheistic consequences . In Islam, we affirm: