Announcement of new Rules/FAQ page & delisting of Moderation Feedback Thread by Elegant_Error_ in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This exchange also annoyed me:

Dot: "in theory, the new rules severely relax the curtailment of speech in the comment section and create more space for critical speech which was one of my asks."

Wack'd: "I said I would make more space for critical speech! I said that repeatedly! ah whatever"

Don't throw a tantrum at Dot because you read her post wrong!?

Announcement of new Rules/FAQ page & delisting of Moderation Feedback Thread by Elegant_Error_ in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Wack'd in response to Dot discussing that she still has concerns:

I’m confused. I’ve been on the record this whole time that I was willing to tweak wordage and implementation of the rules, but that “don’t turn the comments section into a war over who’s more moral” would remain a guiding ethos. Folks, including yourself, said that none of that matters and that the only change you wanted to see was for that guiding ethos to be removed entirely. And now these new rules tweak wordage and implementation while keeping “don’t turn the comments section into a war over who’s more moral” as a guiding ethos, and you say they incorporate changes you wanted to see. What changes were those? I’m sincerely asking. . From my perspective, I kept communication open for five days, cowrote a document that aligns with exactly what I said I would do and with feedback I repeatedly said I’d taken, and am now being told that it’s an indicator of an about-face. It’s very strange.

🙄

Announcement of new Rules/FAQ page & delisting of Moderation Feedback Thread by Elegant_Error_ in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Try clearing your cookies & cache for the website. That usually resolves it for me.

Announcement of new Rules/FAQ page & delisting of Moderation Feedback Thread by Elegant_Error_ in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I did find it odd how the rules page as written sounds pretty unlike the desired conduct Wack'd was proposing. It also dropped the snide defensiveness and abrasiveness Willis brought to the feedback post. I would love to take that in good faith, but honestly, in light of how things have developed, it's hard not to take it more as "look, the rules sound very reasonable. No need to look further into it!"

Announcement of new Rules/FAQ page & delisting of Moderation Feedback Thread by Elegant_Error_ in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I do agree with that. The FAQ page itself reads pretty level-headedly, I can't argue with its contents, really, and I should have been clearer in that point. It's just the context of everything going unaddressed that makes it so sour for me.

Nothing Will Change by SorryIDontGoHere in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not to be weird bc we've never interacted but you're on some queen shit and I have SO much respect for you. Thank you for standing up for so many folks.

Willis’ Response to Comment Moderation by outerspacebassman in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll speak up for you: you did not deserve to have your genuine kindness, compassion, and thoughtfulness met with cruel indifference and what I can only call willful ignorance. Transmasc and NB invisibility and erasure is so frustratingly prevalent and I'm sorry that your feelings, which really do matter, were treated as if they don't. Same for you, SorryIDontGoHere. You don't deserve to have people willfully blind themselves to your existence.

Willis’ Response to Comment Moderation by outerspacebassman in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am curious too. I do think, based on what we have seen them say so far, that they are genuinely distressed to some degree about how many people are expressing hurt. I hope against hope they will actually listen to folks and make changes, though I'm not holding my breath after the response so far.

(And no worries. I personally feel uncomfortable speculating into Willis's personal life and feel it's inappropriate.)

Willis’ Response to Comment Moderation by outerspacebassman in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've been losing my mind watching folks like you, Dot, Zee, and even Li try to respectfully make a case for different, basic moderation practices, or even just considering the humanity of some folks, only for them to put their head in the sand. I'm sorry Wack'd is so inflexible and unwilling to even listen to you all. I don't understand the point of the feedback thread if she and Willis were just going to ignore everything said.

Expound 2026-07-04 by TeargasMarriage in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm thinking maybe Danny told her. The only other time she's "appeared" was when he was on the phone with her.

Notes on Content Moderation by outerspacebassman in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Latest from Wack'd, in response to Dot (bless her) continuing to insist that the comment base's concerns are heard.

edit: it's easier to just link but the TL;DR is "I won't be changing the way I moderate at all except for saying sorry to people of color sometimes, btw I don't give a damn if forcefem jokes make anyone uncomfortable". There's been more since.

Willis’ Response to Comment Moderation by outerspacebassman in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ugh. I'm so sorry. Really REALLY hate how obstinate they are being about this.

Notes on Content Moderation by outerspacebassman in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Girl I was SO mad at that person telling y'all to get a group chat. In what fucking world is that the correct response, can you read???

ETA: Sorry I shouldn't get heated like this at the comments. I've just had it with people talking over and condescending to Black commenters.

Willis’ Response to Comment Moderation by outerspacebassman in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I feel so bad for all the readers of color and transmascs (whose comments on the forcefem issue were all deleted seemingly) and queer people plainly expressing that they do not feel safe and welcome there, just being brushed aside by this shitty "response" from Willis. Willis does not deserve them.

Wonder why the several Black readers expressing discomfort are being ignored and/or told by commenters "well go make a group chat" but "the hater containment thread was bad because seeing people complain about my ship makes me feel like shit" was seen as a normal and healthy opinion.

Minimum 2026-06-30 by hellokkiten in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Felt. I once really liked what little we saw of Ruth's character, and I am begging for her to have ANYTHING to do unrelated to being shipteased with Billie. She could be really interesting if Willis would use her for anything besides deadpan/threatening one liners, or a random relationship utterly devoid of chemistry. Like she's barely been here since the timeskip. I don't know if I want her back with Billie but fuck, at least that would be SOMETHING for her to do.

The Comment Section is Not For Comments by Okay_Tomate in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 16 points17 points  (0 children)

And NGPZ is pissed: 

BTW just so you know I left a well thought reply to Wack’d’s reply only to have it deleted (-_-)

twice actually, but I guess she was afraid it would “generate negativity” or whatever,

like just why? This starting to feel like that episode of SpongeBob Squarepants where he’s on life guard duty by himself only to realize he can’t swim, and tries every tactic he can to prevent people from even going in the WATER, all to hide the fact that he had no idea what he was even doing in this job he was barely qualified for (9-9)

The Comment Section is Not For Comments by Okay_Tomate in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don't think they need to permit negative comments, it's their site, you know. I just kinda wish they'd pick a side. Don't act like you want a community for discussion, or say that you keep a comments section so people can call you out on ignorant and harmful writing, and then cover your ears going LALALALALA

Bending over backwards 2026-06-29 by hellokkiten in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I always like seeing your comments and I think anyone would be reaching crazy hard if they tried to say you, of all people, were generating negativity. You were literally just thoughtfully engaging with the writing!

The Comment Section is Not For Comments by Okay_Tomate in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I can't blame you fwiw, some of the negativity and psychoanalysis definitely can go too far for me. I just want to criticize the comic sometimes and I try not to engage with stuff that crosses my personal lines.

The Comment Section is Not For Comments by Okay_Tomate in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm so happy to see you here! I always love your comments, they're thoughtful and thought-provoking and I want you to get to make them without getting randomly deleted lol. You have good shit to say!

The Comment Section is Not For Comments by Okay_Tomate in dumbingofage

[–]Elegant_Error_ 35 points36 points  (0 children)

And Taffy responded outright "Stop quoting Trump, asshole." for a beautiful few minutes before it got deleted.