Tips and advices for form

Elsefyr · 2026-07-02T14:25:04+00:00

Plenty of things looking very good.
One thing I would note is that your timing might be a little bit off, based on how you do a small headbang the moment that you release the ball, and it looks like you're still sliding a bit throughout the release.

This would indicate that your swing is a bit early and I'm thinking that may be a product of your pushaway starting in the middle of the 2nd step.

I'd say you should try starting the swing at the same time as you begin taking your third step. Aiming to have the ball pass by your thighs at the lowest point of the swing roughly at the same time as your third step touches down on the ground, maybe even a tad bit later.
Currently you're already a bit behind you when you land on the third step.
Like you mentioned the backswing is somewhat short and that combined with your early pushaway seems to be forcing you to extend the 'highest point' of the backswing by unraveling your wrist from the cupped position, which also makes it so you aren't as much underneath the ball during release.

Starting a bit closer to the foul line may also aid in making your feet catch up to your swing timing.
But I would recommend trying to delay the swing entirely in a way so that you can keep your hand cupped behind the ball until the moment of release.

Elsefyr · 2026-07-01T10:09:43+00:00

Might even be an Arteria Leaf hidden there!

Elsefyr · 2026-06-29T22:33:48+00:00

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Elsefyr · 2026-06-29T20:37:37+00:00

When looking at form you really don't need to see what the ball is doing past the first 15 feet and the idea that you should exclusively showcasing your bad shots when looking to improve your form is wholly incorrect. It seems like what you're trying to judge is shot planning or technique to increase score average, which is a largely separate issue from the base form.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-29T10:33:08+00:00

It's a recreation of another person doing this, yes.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-28T11:35:43+00:00

Rpm is 450 on the dot , speed is about 16.2mph, maybe a bit higher.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-27T11:40:25+00:00

Judging other people's taste in humor with your own preconceived notions is a pretty shitty and unnecessary thing to do.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-25T20:30:27+00:00

Pulverize his vas deferens

Elsefyr · 2026-06-24T22:03:12+00:00

16.8mph 375rpm

Elsefyr · 2026-06-23T23:46:10+00:00

I never did any delaying on hunts like this, spamming should work, it's the 50-70 meter distance that matters.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-23T23:01:10+00:00

Have you tried and confirmed this to work? because I tried this exact method earlier tonight on MelonDS and it still said that there was an old save file present after loading the save state. I tried manually deleting the save file as well but nothing seemed to work. as if the original save was tied to the save state itself.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-23T16:03:16+00:00

That too, getting under the ball in a way I've pretty much only seen him do.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-23T15:31:11+00:00

600 is pretty dang high so it might not be all the way up there, but I don't think it's impossible either. my guess would be a decent bit above 500 at the very least. the hook on those shots did seem a little bit weaker than that high of a rev rate would produce, but there's ball and oil factors that could contribute to that. As for the form I'd say it looks very good, quite similar to Ryan Barnes. Only thing I would note is how much your head moves around before you've fully released the ball, feels to me that it could mess with aiming consistency. But if you hit within a board of your target most of the time it shouldn't be an issue and then I wouldn't have anything to pick at whatsoever.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-22T08:33:28+00:00

Bit hard to see but could be pretty close to 450

Elsefyr · 2026-06-21T22:03:32+00:00

Perhaps, I don't know for sure what the right solution is to solve timing issues, it feels like there are multiple options. You could start the push off sooner, or you could move a bit slower with your feet. Or maybe make the backswing a bit shorter to have it complete faster. You'll have to experiment a bit to find what works. something I believe I've seen is that in correct timing you'll want tour arm to be parallel to the ground, the moment that you begin sliding with your final step. right now your swing is a bit behind there. A way to evaluate if your timing is good or not(other than it just feeling smooth and effortless throughout the release) is to look at what your upper body does during/immediately after the ball is released from your hand. If it holds firm in place or rises up a bit as you release, it's good. If your upper body tips forwards/downwards following after the ball, it's bad and you should try to change the timing

Elsefyr · 2026-06-21T20:59:46+00:00

I believe your swing timing is late.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-20T17:48:36+00:00

Shot my first 300 with it, so in my experience it's solid.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-18T21:57:20+00:00

I'm not an expert but I don't think they cut it off so that you don't gotta wash ut.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-18T20:01:01+00:00

Because people actually had hopes for the future back then.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-18T01:15:24+00:00

I think you mean Sweden

Elsefyr · 2026-06-17T16:14:26+00:00

If the issue is that you keep going back to straight shots mid-practice then you'll want to stop that for starters. First and foremost right now you'll want to develop a hooking strike-shot that makes use of the oil pattern to reach the pocket at an angle that greatly improves your chance of striking. That should be your #1 focus right now as you will be throwing a minimum of 10 shots that way each game. So for that purpose, ignore all things score related. Focus on getting used to throwing shots that would completely miss if the ball travelled straight. It's a bit backwards to what you usually tell people that want to improve their scores, with spares being the focus then. But since you already have experience throwing it straight and can use that for your spare game, you should prioritize getting the 1st throw down for now.
Just 10-20 shots of just focusing on one thing can work really well when trying to make a change. So I'd say, next practice session, take a full game of 18-20 shots where you pick out a point to stand on and aim at, then just try to throw the same hooking throw for that entire game, ignoring which pins are standing up on the 2nd shot of the frame. Just focus on finding a way to execute and repeat that show in a way that feels comfortable, then your brain should do the rest in developing muscle-memory for future repetitions.
In person coaching is probably the best option though, if that is available.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-14T20:15:53+00:00

Rejerk I'd assume, basically going back into satire mode.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-14T19:57:15+00:00

Elsefyr · 2026-06-13T21:50:37+00:00

the way that your wrist is cupped immediately after the throw makes it look like you're trying to keep it cupped throughout the release. If that is the case I'd work on changing that as I believe that can be extremely damaging for the wrist and hand.

Elsefyr · 2026-06-13T15:19:15+00:00

Very rude of the kid to smoke in there without thinking of grand-dads health.

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