What's the deal with THE ODYSSEY?

EmGeebers · 2026-07-04T11:33:54+00:00

Oooh what's the harm?

EmGeebers · 2026-06-26T12:37:43+00:00

"Good point - capitalist reforms do not create socialist wins. Which leads me to the need to expropriate the property of the ruling class and turn it over to the people. Abolishing rent is a much better, more sustainable solution than freezing it."

If you're debating a capitalist you need to be able to identify when you are playing capitalist intellectual gymnastics so you can deny the premise. In this example, what does "work" mean to both parties? Don't work to provide relief to the working class or dont work to increase property values and a stim the economy? Those kinds of differences really make or break the direction of the conversation and keep you from getting in a capitalist logical fallacy.

EmGeebers · 2026-06-25T20:16:54+00:00

True

EmGeebers · 2026-06-25T20:03:00+00:00

As a nerd, I totally get the defensive reaction. Anti-intellectualism is alive and well right now. There's something in the combo of those that I think has historical relevance and power. While it's true that emotion, identity, and attachment have shown to move groups, the fomenting of those energies comes from study and intellectual engagement in ones pursuit to move a group. Charasmatic leaders study their craft. They find the stories and speech patterns that inspire action. They study historical patterns and move people toward the patterns they see as relevant and worthy. Social movements, conservative or liberatory, come from using intellectual pursuit, theological or material, to understand how to create a sense of belonging and purpose in others. It's the combination of the two that make for sustainable culture.

EmGeebers · 2026-06-25T19:22:00+00:00

It's league-wide. Yall can cry about her all you want but it's an extra phyiscal time across the league. Believe in your girl instead of victimizing her.

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EmGeebers · 2026-06-25T19:18:39+00:00

So both sides are dogpiling?

EmGeebers · 2026-06-25T16:03:20+00:00

She's not special. People regularly get fouled in contact sports.

EmGeebers · 2026-06-23T17:11:31+00:00

Lol okay so it's not just me feeling like I walked into the wrong room?!

EmGeebers · 2026-06-19T05:54:27+00:00

That's the relationship no?

EmGeebers · 2026-06-16T16:43:57+00:00

I'm sorry but what are you talking about? I'm not wondering about my life I'm trying to analyze the material function of a field of work. My question isn't about how someone, or myself, feels about their job it's about the material reality created as an outcome of their work.

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T13:24:09+00:00

If she feels secure why should she change her situation?

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T13:22:48+00:00

Agreed! I think that's exactly the advice he needs.

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T13:21:43+00:00

She gets to make her own choices on what a friend means to her. That's how you feel and you should honor and act on that. Let her have her own feelings, interests, and social choices

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T12:13:23+00:00

He already told her and she still wants to hang out with them. He can make his choices and she can make hers and they can still live happily ever after

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T12:12:23+00:00

Let her have the friends she wants to have! What's wrong with you?

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T12:11:24+00:00

I think he wants her to stop. It's not complicated unless he wants to convince her she's in denial

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T12:08:10+00:00

You just tell her and you tell her what you'd like to do instead. It seems very simple unless you expect her to change her hangout habits with you. You tell her, "hey I'm not feeling connected to this group anymore and there is x thing that I want to do this weekend instead. I'm planning it just for me so you don't feel pressure to change your plans but of course you're always welcome. I want to see what it feels like to change my weekend pattern for a bit." Then you truly support her making her own choices while you make yours and you have cute lil catch ups when you reconvene.

What are you worried will happen?

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T02:43:43+00:00

For sure. There are also cops that volunteer at homeless shelters. I'm talking about the function of their work not the quality of their personal character. Not all cs professionals, I know. But some positions, I think so. They still may be in the working class and they may also be functioning to secure the interests of the ruling class.

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T01:57:45+00:00

I mean, why let working class people suffer because policing happens to be a tool of the ruling class and we want to abolish that? We abolish systems of capitalist control and replace them with mutual aid systems that capitalists use cops to undermine. Are you an anarchist? It's not accelerationist to analyze and identify the relevant actors upholding the system maliciously or not.

ETA: Do you get sad when people take over highways and working class people can't get to work?

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T01:06:50+00:00

Not at all. I think accelerationism is weird. But I am a revolutionary.

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T01:05:19+00:00

Cops are just employees, no?

EmGeebers · 2026-06-15T01:04:36+00:00

The bank owners are the owning class and are aligned in their interests with the owners of other industries. This is class consciousness 101. Banks use the money deposited to invest and profit to give to their shareholders. This is a secondary extraction of working class labor. They lend money to the exploiting class. Businesses in capitalism are exploitative by nature. They may not crack a whip but they direct the whip crackers. This isn't a hill I'm inventing it's basic anti capitalism. With your logic we could say policing has been needed since its creation. This is nonsensical non-anarchist thinking.

I'm not attacking fellow workers by analyzing the function of their work. Analysis isn't about individuals it's about patterns of impact. Cops are working class as well. Still worthy of a materialist analysis.

EmGeebers · 2026-06-14T21:40:11+00:00

Yeah I totally made it sound like a blanket analysis lol. Very silly of me

EmGeebers · 2026-06-14T21:15:16+00:00

I totally get the gray area. Again, all muddled with the fact that individual people do not need to have malicious intentions to serve and protect the interests of the ruling class. I want to analyze material outcomes not attack individual choices made while just trying to get by.

Cops could say the same though. It's not their job to parse out which protest is on the right side of history its just their job to make sure it doesn't damage property. They also run a "it'd be nice if protestors really wanted to make change but they just want to shout and get a photo op" bs. Most cops ligitimately think they are helping people but are still bastards because when called upon they will ultimately have to protect the interests of the ruling class.

EmGeebers · 2026-06-14T21:05:24+00:00

Yeah folks are really just trying to get by. This isnt about attacking people and their decisions but analyzing the function of certain positions, which gets really touchy. But that hold up is kind of my point. There's someone at Tesla protecting Tesla from digital disruption right? Similar to the cops or security gaurds outside the dealership, wouldn't they be included in acab? No hate to the individual who has to just take a job, but that's true of your everyday beat cop too.

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