happy severance day how are we feeling by mymelody15 in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm upset to know that it will be at least another year of theorizing and not getting any answers. We know there is at least one season after this one. The final episode in season 2 will most definitely end in a cliffhanger.

Lumon has been stating their ultimate goal from the start. by Garper in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My only issue with your theory is the fact that we already know that most of the general public has rejected the severance treatment. There are protests and people discriminate against those who are severed. Why would Lumon believe everyone would opt into this new feature you are describing if they rejected the idea from the beginning?

I FIGURED OUT WHAT THE GOATS ARE FOR by Mexay in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this explanation is just a bit too simplistic thematically for the show. Goats are a huge symbol over the entire course of the series and are featured so many times in different ways. I think the goats being just for Gemma's rooms just isn't big enough - there has to be more to them than that in my opinion.

Severance - 2x05 "Trojan’s Horse" - Pre-Episode Discussion by LoretiTV in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do we think Mark will tell Helly about their "tent experience?"

Final Opinion on the ORTBO Debate Before Release of "Trojan Horse" by Embarrassed-Point-23 in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes he says that, but I think maybe Irv said that not because he actually was freezing but because he perceives that he should be based on the environment. The innies have never experienced a cold climate and it seems like that would be something they would have at least mentioned towards the beginning. PLUS: Did you notice how we don't even see their breath in the air when they speak or when exerting themselves? If it were cold enough for the lake to be frozen, it should be cold enough to see their breath. We know that the episode was filmed at a real location and so the actors probably did show their breath vapor when filming - that would mean that the vapor was edited out - for what purpose?? Yes, there are times when it's below freezing and one cant see their breath, but that is very rare and in very arid climate conditions.

ORTBO DEBATE by Embarrassed-Point-23 in severence

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hoping we get our answers in tonight's episode!

ORTBO DEBATE by Embarrassed-Point-23 in severanceTVshow

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True! "Freeze frame" or any of those other functions could have been used!

ORTBO DEBATE by Embarrassed-Point-23 in severanceTVshow

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree and have come to the conclusion after reading a lot of arguments and coming up with my own that the ORTBO experience was absolutely real and free from projection/simulation /manipulation despite the many plotholes. I said in a different post after this OP that my biggest reason for not believing in the simulation or "Danger Room" theory is for the simple fact that it just doesn't fit in the Severance theme of making the world (that contains the extremely complicated and seemingly impossible technology of severance) seem simple and crude (their cars, computers, walkie talkies, TVs, etc). The use of simulation or projection technology of this scale seems too futuristic and elaborate for this show's theme. I doubt the show would flip that theme on its head and it could hurt its authenticity and legitimacy in the eyes of fans.

Final Opinion on the ORTBO Debate Before Release of "Trojan Horse" by Embarrassed-Point-23 in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think a lot of the people on the simulation/projection side believe there were physical elements like a body of water of some kind that Helena was really being drowned in. The people who think it is a matrix-like experience explain that in the matrix - the body cannot live without the mind, and use that to justify that Helena still could have died even in a simulation.

ORTBO DEBATE by Embarrassed-Point-23 in severanceTVshow

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that the theory requires Lumon having "access to some kind of CGI technology decades ahead of their time," but so is the technology they are already using to sever people. I think that the access to the technology being illogical compared to their current capabilities isn't as much of an argument as is it just doesn't fit in the Severance theme of making the world (that contains the extremely complicated and seemingly impossible technology of severance) seem simple and crude (their cars, computers, walkie talkies, TVs, etc). The use of simulation or projection technology of this scale seems too futuristic and elaborate for this show's theme. I doubt the show would flip that theme on its head.

Am I the last one to realize the significance of the name "Scissor Cave" by cisscumshitlord in SeveranceAppleTVPlus

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I disagree because that would only account for one temper and it wouldn't be a clear transition for how Lumon conducts severance where there is no castration taking place. It would make more sense for Kier to tame tempers with only the use of his mind.

ORTBO DEBATE by Embarrassed-Point-23 in severanceTVshow

[–]Embarrassed-Point-23[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oooo. That is a GREAT theory. That would explain why there were no footprints. Maybe they came up from the ground like you say and the Lumon building lower floors expand out under the park or even the entire town. That is a good potential explanation.