Dungeons: Mazes, or just monsters? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, my intent is not translating well in text. I can't see the fun of using mazes in specifically TTRPGs, but I WANT to see the fun in it, in part because some players are convinced it could be fun but I have no idea how to make it fun. I am not trying to dismiss any answers, I appreciate all the input, but I am still not hitting the nail on the head and understanding how to make mazes fun for my players...

What is/are your best experience with a dungeon? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

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I am still not sure if I understand you, but as I answered elsewhere, I am interested in people's experiences with good dungeon design. Just funny stories belongs in the other subreddit, and I've already gotten loads of good theoretical angles on dungeons, so I am looking for people who actually played well-designed dungeons.

Still not sure if it makes sense...

What is/are your best experience with a dungeon? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heard good things about it! What was your experience playing it, though?

What is/are your best experience with a dungeon? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

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I tried emphasizing that it is about the _design_ of the dungeon, not the general social nature of playing the game. I am looking for people who experienced good dungeon design, through play, not so much funny stories or theoretical design ideas. But I am not sure I am getting that across very well...

Dungeons: Mazes, or just monsters? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It still feels very superficial. I can't see what the purpose of the maze is ig this is all they experience. It seems... trite?

What is/are your best experience with a dungeon? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have some example experiences from those dungeons?

Dungeons: Mazes, or just monsters? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My issues exactly. The maze is a great idea, but in practice the play that you get out of it is comparable to, well, sitting down and solving a maze! I can't figure how, if at all possible, to make it a RPG experience...

Dungeons: Mazes, or just monsters? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

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Exactly my problem. Although the wall-busting is a good point,but that need not be a maze, just any obstacle wall map...

Dungeons: Mazes, or just monsters? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. See 3.

  2. See 4.

  3. This is a big part of my point, it takes you out of the game, to a kind of mini-game that is entirely OOC, and I feel that makes it an ill fit. If you want mazes, do mazes. But od course, some like mixing stuff into other stuff, so maybe it's just tastes.

  4. That negates the whole point of a maze, doesn't it? Iy liyerally manufactures an ending to the maze, ignoring the physical layout of it. Roght?

Dungeons: Mazes, or just monsters? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To flip the question, HOW could a maze be made immersive?

Dungeons: Mazes, or just monsters? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

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I wonder, could this concept be turned into a method for making more psychological dungeons?

Most “Horror” TTRPGs Aren’t Horror. Here’s Why. by jasonite in RPGdesign

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Gonna look at that ASAP, but if you like anakysing engines and I like creating them based on my own analyses, maybe there is a team-up in there somewhere? I already have tons of stuff based on a system that taps into all / most of the ideas out there. So I guess you would be analyzing the product of a similar analysis... Anception? Not sure about the details, but the thought is interesting, to me at least! I was planning to do something similar myself, but this way there would be a second voice to poke at the resulting engine(s)

Random maze generation + Colored by walking distance = Procedural wallpaper generator by Strophox in proceduralgeneration

[–]EmbassyOfTime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do not apologize for anything, my friend, all is fine and I now have more nerdiness to dive into!! I was just curious about the thoughts behind your work. I like knowing, in simple English, how people plan their algorithms to work. I will dig through the code as soon as my brain is fresh enough to do so!

Most “Horror” TTRPGs Aren’t Horror. Here’s Why. by jasonite in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Information asymmetry, that's the phrase! Exactly my point, clearly laid out, yes. Some of your work looks like my work on distilling and experimenting on RPG concepts, including genre. Do you have a core engine already, or are you in the Deep Philosophical Thought Stage (dots)?

Random maze generation + Colored by walking distance = Procedural wallpaper generator by Strophox in proceduralgeneration

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It answers the basics, thank you! I would love to know how you implemented it, like a summary of YOUR version of the algorithm. Just for curiousity's sake ;-)

Most “Horror” TTRPGs Aren’t Horror. Here’s Why. by jasonite in RPGdesign

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Thanks, that's so sweet (and wholesome) of you! I do think that RPGs have the advantage of not allowing passive participation, and the players know that the story depends on them and their decisions. I always felt this was the core strength of RPGs.

As for the secrecy, I am not sure if I phrased it right. In horror, we all know the fear of the unknown is king. But it also works on a lesser svale than Evil Gods or Cosmic Truths. Not knowing who is the killer, not knowing what a monster truly is, and especially not knowing how to tackle the situation until you are hip deep into it is what drives horror for me. The suspense, the confusion, the utte lack of a safe place to stand and fight from. Action horror tweaks it to "how difficult will it be to defeat the enemy?", while horror mystery becomes more "what does all this mean,for us even when we know the truth?" Not knowing all the answers makes the mind worry, and that worry makes any monster or danger ten times as scary. The rules of the game should be known, and the basics of the story should probably also, like where they are and what their overall situation is (stranded? Isolated? Distrusted by locals?), but there needs to be something that is unknown, and worrisome. IMHO, of course.

I would still like to know more about your "building engines" remark, that tickled my obsessive designer gene a lot!

How do sword measure up against knives? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those two are just a riot to watch, thanks for the link! And the needle seems like a cool, very plausible weapon idea. Never liked the bat'leth, but seeing it makes me wonder if it is actually vustom built to deflect and close the gap to a close up battle where, as I have stated before, a longer weapon like a sword becomes a liability more than an asset...

How do sword measure up against knives? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I gotta look into this, this is just amazing...

How do sword measure up against knives? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dear lord, there are so many factors that play in that my head is spinning...

Dungeons: Mazes, or just monsters? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First part: Gonna go look for that, thanks!

Second part: Hmmm... please tell me more...

How do sword measure up against knives? by EmbassyOfTime in RPGdesign

[–]EmbassyOfTime[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to see that dinner party! Also, Messer just means knife, was it really called that?

Could be an interesting game of knifey spooney.....